Have you guys noticed that women from some cultures don't want their men to become incels nor homosexuals?

[ArchibaultNew]

Hey guys,
After talking extensively with you I started to realize some things. With the whole manosphere we are led to believe that men have one set of interests and women have a different set of interests. Moreover, often both these interests are not compatible. Furthermore, many manopshere thinkers assert that this are "universal truths" and women are always going to prefer the top 20% winners and all the bottom 80% of men are losers who deserve nothing.

However, when studying other cultures, I have come to realize that this is NOT the case. It is not because the guys are different. Some guys are going to be more outgoing while others aren't. Its because the women care and respect their men. They grew up loving their fathers, uncles and brothers. Many fools might think this is "collectivist behavior." However, I believe this is more "normal human behavior."

For instance, I remember a friend from a developing country told me he had one classmate of his who was acting homosexual at his school(he joined the theater) and his mom was worried hence she took him out of the theater and encourage him to play sports.

Unlike the Anglo view that women are passive. I say women take an active role raising their sons and straying them from negativity. For instance, I talked with some friends from developing countries who said their mom's encourage them to learn more about religion.

While MGTOW, Redpill, and others on the surface sound "Clever" there's an element of "Anti-Sociality" in all these movements. It works under a separatism logic.

Bottomline: It seems while Anglo men worship their women, women in general and are confrontational with their fellow men as opposed to see them as friends. Their women are selfish and are only interested in their own success. Their women identify much more with other women(low key lesbianism) as opposed to their own men.

[Lucas88]

Hey guys,
After talking extensively with you I started to realize some things. With the whole manosphere we are led to believe that men have one set of interests and women have a different set of interests. Moreover, often both these interests are not compatible. Furthermore, many manopshere thinkers assert that this are "universal truths" and women are always going to prefer the top 20% winners and all the bottom 80% of men are losers who deserve nothing.

However, when studying other cultures, I have come to realize that this is NOT the case. It is not because the guys are different. Some guys are going to be more outgoing while others aren't. Its because the women care and respect their men. They grew up loving their fathers, uncles and brothers. Many fools might think this is "collectivist behavior." However, I believe this is more "normal human behavior."

For instance, I remember a friend from a developing country told me he had one classmate of his who was acting homosexual at his school(he joined the theater) and his mom was worried hence she took him out of the theater and encourage him to play sports.

Unlike the Anglo view that women are passive. I say women take an active role raising their sons and straying them from negativity. For instance, I talked with some friends from developing countries who said their mom's encourage them to learn more about religion.

While MGTOW, Redpill, and others on the surface sound "Clever" there's an element of "Anti-Sociality" in all these movements. It works under a separatism logic.

Bottomline: It seems while Anglo men worship their women, women in general and are confrontational with their fellow men as opposed to see them as friends. Their women are selfish and are only interested in their own success. Their women identify much more with other women(low key lesbianism) as opposed to their own men.

What you say seems right and reflects my own experiences of different cultures to a large degree.

Many non-Anglo cultures such as Latin America are pro-male. The women respect men. Mothers care deeply about their sons and want them to be strong and masculine and to form healthy bonds with girls and women. There's no "war of the sexes" promoted by perverse Anglo feminism.

Some Latin American mothers even send their sons to a brothel when they reach the age of 15. It is usually a male relative or family friend who takes the son to the venue. The reason for this practice is that the mother wants the son to learn how to appreciate women. An Ecuadorian mother and friend of mine wanted the same thing for her own son. She told me that she wanted to make sure that he would develop normal heterosexual attraction and not fall into homosexuality. She even said that I could be the one to take him to the brothel. Latin American mothers want their boys to love women and have girlfriends and eventually a wife. They look upon the possibility that their sons could become homosexual with horror.

The same Ecuadorian lady also told me that it is somewhat common in Latin America for mothers who suspect their sons of having homosexual traits to put them on male hormones in order to masculinize them and thereby save them from homosexuality. This however doesn't really work if the boy is really a natural sexual invert. I've read that in such cases the exogenous testosterone will only serve to elevate the libido and make the boys more likely to act upon their homosexual desires. But the intention to prevent homosexuality and promote love for women is still there nevertheless.

The same friend of mine also has a nephew who is a flamboyant gayboy. She tells me that the boy's dad hires female prostitutes for him in an attempt to "straighten him out" but the boy secretly bribes them in exchange for them to lie to his father about their sexual encounters. I wonder what the boy and the prostitutes do in his room during the sessions. Maybe they have tea parties and play with dolls and unicorns!

In the event that a son turns out to be an effeminate sexual invert, many Latin American mothers would rather him become a Tgurl than be a limp-wristed gayboy. At least that way he could present as female and live in a normal gender role.

The Anglosphere on the other hand really is a sick and disgusting place and relations between men and women here are irreparably broken.

Forget about Anglo women. Most of them are fuckin' horrible. I now refuse to have anything to do with Anglo women beyond what is absolutely necessary and only actively seek interaction with foreign women from saner and more pro-male cultures. Those of us who speak foreign languages and have a connection to non-Anglo cultures don't need Anglo women.

[MrMan]

At my wife's graduation, there was this guy there whose clothes seemed girly. Indonesians tend to be nonconfrontational, but someone said maybe he'd gone crazy because he hadn't finished the credits to graduate by that graduation date.

Since people were talking about his fruity looking clothes, I just told the guy that his clothes looked girly. He seemed kind of shocked to find out.

Indonesians generally don't want their sons and friends to dress gay.

[Outcast9428]

@ArchibaultNew and @Lucas88

I have personally always disliked how pessimistic and negative everybody in the MGTOW movement is. It is stunning to me how unimaginative people are. People grow up in a feminist, liberal society and cannot imagine how life would look in anything other then a feminist society. A lot of these people seem to forget that in the historical past, women were actually seen as the conservative ones because women generally are more conformist and are more inclined to want to behave in the manner they see society as wanting them to behave. If you read the way people talked in the past, you will see lots of women holding opinions that are seen as so hard right today that its almost entirely men who hold these views. Consider that there was an age when Queen Victoria said the following...



Can you imagine any woman saying that in an Anglo society? Its pretty much unthinkable. Yet, on forums for Japanese internet users which I admittedly had to use Google translate to read, I have actually seen Japanese women saying similar things. Even seeing some of the men responding to them by saying "women are the biggest enemies of women." In a truly conservative, patriarchal society, women will become our greatest allies. They will be the most aggressive about policing promiscuity, they will be the most aggressive about enforcing morality amongst themselves. Why is this? Because in a truly conservative, patriarchal society, women see themselves as mothers first and mothers will have sons whom they want a good life for. Feminism will destroy their son's ability to find a wife and succeed in society.

When I have discussions with old, conservative women who actually grew up in the 1950s, its surreal. Their social views are almost entirely in line with the modern, anti feminist far right. They obviously hate promiscuity, but they also say things like "good girls belong to good men" and "hookup culture only hurts good men while benefitting bad men" and "women who go for bad men should be ashamed of themselves."

The fact of the matter is, women are sluts because they are sent to public schools away from their parents where they are taught by irresponsible teenage boys that casual sex is cool. Girls' opinion on sluttiness would flip in a heartbeat if they were raised in a different environment.

My ex proved to me that even in a liberal society, some girls can have shockingly conservative views. My ex did not believe women were suited to leadership positions and said she'd leave the country if a woman ever became president. She also told me she wanted to imprison degenerates. This is mainly the result of her parents' who really were flat out, 1950s style traditionalists.

[Cornfed]

Evil Western regimes plunder men and give some of the resources to females, so females don't have to care about men in the short term. Hopefully they are about to reap what they have been sowing.

[jamesbond]

Many non-Anglo cultures such as Latin America are pro-male. The women respect men. Mothers care deeply about their sons and want them to be strong and masculine and to form healthy bonds with girls and women. There's no "war of the sexes" promoted by perverse Anglo feminism.

Some Latin American mothers even send their sons to a brothel when they reach the age of 15. It is usually a male relative or family friend who takes the son to the venue. The reason for this practice is that the mother wants the son to learn how to appreciate women. An Ecuadorian mother and friend of mine wanted the same thing for her own son. She told me that she wanted to make sure that he would develop normal heterosexual attraction and not fall into homosexuality. She even said that I could be the one to take him to the brothel. Latin American mothers want their boys to love women and have girlfriends and eventually a wife. They look upon the possibility that their sons could become homosexual with horror.

The Anglosphere on the other hand really is a sick and disgusting place and relations between men and women here are irreparably broken.

Forget about Anglo women. Most of them are fuckin' horrible. I now refuse to have anything to do with Anglo women beyond what is absolutely necessary and only actively seek interaction with foreign women from saner and more pro-male cultures. Those of us who speak foreign languages and have a connection to non-Anglo cultures don't need Anglo women.

I have also heard about Latin American mothers and fathers taking their sons to brothels around the age 15. In America prostitution is illegal so even grown men can't go to a brothel (which is absolutely ridiculous).

The Anglosphere is a disgusting place where the relations between men and women is absolutely horrible. I agree about avoiding Anglo women like the plague. If you do get into a relationship with a woman, make sure she is not from an Anglo country. For example, Latin American women and Asian women are much more pro male and don't see men as the enemy like Anglo women do.

No wonder why so many guys from Anglo countries are going MGTOW or moving to more male friendly countries.