The Winston Wu Intervention (ALL ACTIVE MEMBERS CONTRIBUTE)

[Fenix]

Winston, I am calling you out! I am so sick of you going to Taiwan every second half of the year to pull Taiwanese women and fail. All the members that are active, please, could we all choose a suitable country for Winston? I am tired of the 6 month sabbatical in Taiwan and then he goes back to the Philippines (Angeles City) and then writes a novel about how the women suck and how he can't breathe or he is always sick.

This intervention needs to happen! I recommend Lithuania since you say it's your favorite country (saw it on your couchsurfing profile).

Guys, please help Winston kick his habit. This has gone too far. 4 years of addiction is enough! How many times do you have to go to Taiwan? The women there don't like you. Just like black women don't like me, Taiwanese women don't like you. Accept your fate.

Another recommendation is Ukraine, yeah, I said it. Why not do something different and contact Mark Davis about going on one of his tours? Something has to happen. I am tired of this shit. You clearly want to move out of Angeles City. Everyone has mentioned cities in RP, but you won't go. Anyway...

I don't want you to keep doing this for the rest of your life. Spending 6 months in Philippines and then going back to Taiwan and vice verse. Doesn't that get tiring? 200+ countries and you keep going to these two places? You are obviously tired of Filipinas. Why not get with women on your level?

Intervene!!!!

*THIS THREAD IS 100000000% SERIOUS*

[odbo]

Mexico? They probably make the best vegetarian food too!

[well-informed]

That low-life degenerate will not change. He's too lazy and stubborn

He goes to Taiwan to live with his parents rent-free. He probably spends next to nothing living with them.

If he goes to a different country he will get dissatisfied really quickly because that's what Winston does. He bitches and complains

- He'll have to spend money on living expenses and food (that's fine by his cheap standards)
- He thinks it's his god-given right for most women to spread their legs (delusional narcissist who apparently doesn't own a mirror)
- How can he pursue a possible relationship with ANY woman, if he doesn't want to court her and get to know her better. He wants the p***y as quickly as possible at the cheapest price preferably free. That's what Angeles has done to him, he's having a hard time differentiating fantasy with reality.
- His best fit as of now is Eastern Europe because of the proximity and language skills and that's basically it

It really boils down on WHAT HE WANTS exactly in a mate, which for some reason he can't give a clear concise answer. Besides Winston is his own mental block. Winston doesn't want marriage (red flag #1) he didn't even marry the mother of his bastard child. Winston probably doesn't want another child, since he's too selfish and a unfit parent (red flag#2). Winston is cheap and not exactly rich (red flag #3).

What benefit does an attractive eastern european woman want with Winston for the LONG-TERM future as a partner. He's not even bringing faithfulness to the table. All he's bringing are insane expectations in what he wants as a woman.

There's nothing anyone can do to make Winston truly happier-abroad. That inspiring Winston the one from his journal-entries are long gone. His id has taken over his brain, he's psychologically f***ed and incapable of intimacy. He's done. He'll always be lurking at bargirls in the phils. Feel sorry for his son, he's going to grow up to be a bitch with no father-presence whatsoever in his life.

[odbo]

It really boils down on WHAT HE WANTS exactly in a mate, which for some reason he can't give a clear concise answer. Besides Winston is his own mental block. Winston doesn't want marriage (red flag #1) he didn't even marry the mother of his bastard child. Winston probably doesn't want another child, since he's too selfish and a unfit parent (red flag#2). Winston is cheap and not exactly rich (red flag #3).

What benefit does an attractive eastern european woman want with Winston for the LONG-TERM future as a partner. He's not even bringing faithfulness to the table. All he's bringing are insane expectations in what he wants as a woman.

There's nothing anyone can do to make Winston truly happier-abroad. That inspiring Winston the one from his journal-entries are long gone. His id has taken over his brain, he's psychologically f***ed and incapable of intimacy. He's done. He'll always be lurking at bargirls in the phils. Feel sorry for his son, he's going to grow up to be a bitch with no father-presence whatsoever in his life.

You summed it up nicely.

[swincor]

No, I don't think intervening is either necessary or useful. Winston had all the best advice given to him, and he still made the choices he made.

The women on his level are the girls in Angeles, and he can't do better. He and Dianne are stuck with each other for better or worse.

He is not someone you should help. There are many others who can be helped, and your energies would be better served focusing on them.

[boycottamericanwomen]

Damn, you guys are really pissed at Winston. I never met him, but he seemed like a pretty nice guy.

What is this Angeles City that you keep harping on? Is it a place where lots of hot sexy young prostitute types hang around? Please give more detail about what Angeles City is like, I'm missing out on this information.

And odbo, you said Mexico makes the best vegetarian food. Mexicans eat a shit load of meat. If you want vegetarian food, come over to India. There's an unlimited variety of vegetarian food here, and it actually taste good too- not just fried beans and f***ing corn tacos.

[leavingusa]

I agree, he seems like a nice guy and he brought all this information to people instead of keeping it for himself.

But he should improve his appearance, I think it is hurting him.

[onezero4u]

damnnnn yawl are really swatting on winstons ball sack.

just let him live his own life...hes old enough to know he must live with the repurcusions of his decisions and actions.

i do agree if you are bitching too much about your condition....youre probably making bad decisions or too much of a whiner.

good luck winston...find your bliss bro

[Fenix]

No, I don't think intervening is either necessary or useful. Winston had all the best advice given to him, and he still made the choices he made.

The women on his level are the girls in Angeles, and he can't do better. He and Dianne are stuck with each other for better or worse.

He is not someone you should help. There are many others who can be helped, and your energies would be better served focusing on them.

I agree, however, he has a great responsibility. He is the owner of this forum and the main website. Many men look up to him. He has to set an example for all the men that want to be "happier abroad." If the owner isn't even happier abroad, what does that say? It looks bad if the owner is saying things like he does about Philippines being a dating paradise one minute and then says the place sucks because the women are brainless or you can't get middle class Filipinas. I don't care about the Philippines, but many men (99% of the men on this forum) do want to find love in that country. Lurkers roam on this forum and look on to read his bullshit posts, and they are going to be like," Hmm, owner of the site is saying Philippines is not a good option!" What do you think they are going to do?

Winston is a grown ass man and he has made his own bed, but I think it's time for him to go somewhere else. I would love to see a trip report from this guy in a country like Brazil or something and I will then say, "Hell yeah Winston!" No, it's the opposite. I am here laughing and shaking my head.

Analogy: This is like that PUA scumbag Mystery teaching men how to be successful with women and he is struggling to get women himself. How would that look? Mystery has books, televisions shows, etc., but on his "forum," he is complaining about he can't get a date at one location for 4 years. That would ruin his reputation. False advertising!

I am trying to be encouraging here.

Think about what Winston's message has been (paraphrasing):

"America is the worst dating scene in the world. America is antisocial and blah blah blah. Do you dream of being Happier Abroad?" Taiwan is not America and it is abroad and he is not happy. He is not happy in the Philippines either. His whole mission is a lie. He says you can find happiness outside of America and apparently you can't because he is having just as bad of experiences in his home country (Taiwan) than he did in America. That's one of the problems.

I am probably the last person that needs to make a thread about Winston because deep down inside I know he hates me a little bit. I'll probably get banned again for saying things like this and he might take this as a personal attack. No, this is like someone is telling me something I need to work on. No difference. So, Winston, please do not take this as a personal attack. I want you to succeed. I want all men to be happy. I am tired of you going back to Taiwan and talking (trying to talk) to Taiwanese women and failing each time.

It would be nice if you went to a new location or something. I don't want to be on this forum in 2021 and you are still posting threads like, "Rock, Momopi, Anyone, Taiwanese Women Make Me So Shy, Help!" or "Angeles City: Top 1000 Reasons Why It Still Sucks." I want to come on this forum in 2021 and you are in God damn Sweden having the time of your life. That's what I want to see. Not what you are doing now.

You should have been where Mark Edward Davis is right now. You should have already been doing your own romance tours and making shitloads of money. You should be in competiton with AFA. That's my honest assessment where you should be. Nope, still going back and forth to Taiwan and the Philippines, two places you hate.

Enough of me being a babbling Brooke...

[tmr]

This is a good thread. Maybe this thread is the best lesson about what life actually is.

You think Winston will be happy in Sweden then? Or Ukraine? Or wherever? No way.

Because we human beings can't be happy. Not this way. Not by continuously moving the pieces around until you find the perfect arrangement. Because even if you managed to find it, something would change, you would change! Then your perfect arrangement wouldn't feel perfect anymore. Then you will have to get up and redo it all. How many times can you keep redoing it? As you get older your energy decreases. What will you accomplish if you are sixty and still looking for that special someone? And who are you going to find anyway? You are now more dead than alive. Your body is on the way out. You may find yourself no longer interested in the bar. If in 2021 Winston was in Sweden sitting in bars that would be very sad.

There are some basic biological needs we have without which we are guaranteed to be unhappy (and this includes companionship and sex), so yes we need to pursue these.

But feelings of happiness come and go. No matter how great your life arrangement is, feelings of happiness come and go. So yes by all means try to get what you need and build a good life arrangement, but don't judge it based on your ephemeral feelings of happiness. Continuously rearraging things to find that elusive sweet spot will guarantee you uhappiness and stress.

So then how do we act?

Firstly finding pleasure and comfort in the familiar is not a bad thing. Finding joy in our work is also a good thing.

Secondly this old adage might actually reflect some deep understanding about who we are
If you think only of yourself you will lose yourself and truly have to 'suffer your freedom'
If you think of others (for most people your family) you will find yourself.

The problems described on this thread are the problems of the outcome of the boomer generation, the 'I, me, myself and mine' generation. The people who came after the boomer sixties were the first generation born in an environment without any social and cultural restraints and plenty of privellege. This can paradoxically be a more difficult background than growing up in hardship. You know only softness, you believe the world owes you everything and you have a right to be happy all the time. Bad beliefs, very bad beliefs because that is not what life actually is.

Maybe going to Taiwan is the best thing for the board founder. His body may be screaming at him to *settle down*. Sex will be disappearing, and the appeal of the bar will be fading. It is ok, this is natural, every one of us will go through this. This is an opportunity to move into a different life space to focus energies on other matters. The mind will complain but the body wants it to adjust.

Our definition of 'the time of our life' changes as we get older. Let it change! Don't resist it. You will be pleasantly surprised. Don't cling to your image of yourself as a teenager.

[gsjackson]

Welcome back, IJohn. Your perspective has been missed. Though as the 60-year-old still on this particular quest, I don't feel quite all that pathetic. People aren't all the same.

[Hook]

Last I heard, Winston already moved out of Angeles City.

[S_Parc]

Because we human beings can't be happy. Not this way. Not by continuously moving the pieces around until you find the perfect arrangement. Because even if you managed to find it, something would change, you would change! Then your perfect arrangement wouldn't feel perfect anymore. Then you will have to get up and redo it all. How many times can you keep redoing it? As you get older your energy decreases. What will you accomplish if you are sixty and still looking for that special someone? And who are you going to find anyway? You are now more dead than alive. Your body is on the way out. You may find yourself no longer interested in the bar. If in 2021 Winston was in Sweden sitting in bars that would be very sad.

There are some basic biological needs we have without which we are guaranteed to be unhappy (and this includes companionship and sex), so yes we need to pursue these.

But feelings of happiness come and go. No matter how great your life arrangement is, feelings of happiness come and go. So yes by all means try to get what you need and build a good life arrangement, but don't judge it based on your ephemeral feelings of happiness. Continuously rearraging things to find that elusive sweet spot will guarantee you uhappiness and stress.

tmr, you've posted some great psychoanalytical insights. In many ways, I agree with you. One of the reasons why I spend, 6-8 mos a year in the Boston area, when I'd not abroad, is that I don't like this dichotomous lifestyle. True, my work is mainly stateside and northeast oriented but that's really a sideshow, I could re-locate to let's say Houston and do the same type of thing or perhaps, become a full time ex-pat in Brazil, Singapore, or Thailand & be done with the homeland.

I want to find happiness in the place where I grew up in, even if that means, making a periodic run to the Canadian side for a quickie w/ a French-Canadian escort, in place of a stateside skank. But the key here is that I don't want the whole, bouncing around, to be a way of looking for happiness. Happiness comes from within. And so I believe that once I achieve a sense of general happiness at home, I can leave, and bring that sense with me, wherever I go.

[swincor]

No, I don't think intervening is either necessary or useful. Winston had all the best advice given to him, and he still made the choices he made.

The women on his level are the girls in Angeles, and he can't do better. He and Dianne are stuck with each other for better or worse.

He is not someone you should help. There are many others who can be helped, and your energies would be better served focusing on them.

I agree, however, he has a great responsibility. He is the owner of this forum and the main website. Many men look up to him. He has to set an example for all the men that want to be "happier abroad." If the owner isn't even happier abroad, what does that say? It looks bad if the owner is saying things like he does about Philippines being a dating paradise one minute and then says the place sucks because the women are brainless or you can't get middle class Filipinas. I don't care about the Philippines, but many men (99% of the men on this forum) do want to find love in that country. Lurkers roam on this forum and look on to read his bullshit posts, and they are going to be like," Hmm, owner of the site is saying Philippines is not a good option!" What do you think they are going to do?

Winston is a grown ass man and he has made his own bed, but I think it's time for him to go somewhere else. I would love to see a trip report from this guy in a country like Brazil or something and I will then say, "Hell yeah Winston!" No, it's the opposite. I am here laughing and shaking my head.

Analogy: This is like that PUA scumbag Mystery teaching men how to be successful with women and he is struggling to get women himself. How would that look? Mystery has books, televisions shows, etc., but on his "forum," he is complaining about he can't get a date at one location for 4 years. That would ruin his reputation. False advertising!

I am trying to be encouraging here.

Being encouraging won't change him. He doesn't deserve encouragement anyway. He prefers to whine rather than live responsibly, or make real changes in his life.

And yeah, he's been old enough a long time now to make his own decisions, and not need cheerleaders.

It might not look good that the board owner isn't happier abroad, but IMO most members who join probably won't give a shit. It's pretty easy to talk about something else and ignore Winston's personal life. Besides, the expat movement will likely never be more than just a handful of people anyway, and it shouldn't be a personal goal to enlarge the movement.

[ladislav]

Winston, in my personal opinion, it is time for you top revive your pioneer spirit again. You have inspired hundreds of thousands of people to follow you and now what? It would be great to see you accomplishing the impossible again. What dya say?