Obnoxious Western children vs Asian children

[Voice of Reason]

I was at a shopping center in Chiang Mai (Thailand) today when I heard a sound that I haven't heard in a while - that of an annoying crying screaming baby.

I looked to the source of the sound and - no surprises here - the baby was from a western family.

Needless to say, the mother and father were obese, as well as the babies siblings.

What is it with western babies acting like this? Do they have a bad diet, or something? Are they simply spoiled?

[C.J.]

Bad diets, coupled with bad parenting. Asian children would act the same way given the same parenting regimen.

[OutWest]

I was at a shopping center in Chiang Mai (Thailand) today when I heard a sound that I haven't heard in a while - that of an annoying crying screaming baby.

I looked to the source of the sound and - no surprises here - the baby was from a western family.

Needless to say, the mother and father were obese, as well as the babies siblings.

What is it with western babies acting like this? Do they have a bad diet, or something? Are they simply spoiled?

If they are US parents, it is very likely they are just raising a self-indulgent brat...par for the course.

Outwest

[momopi]

When I was in France, I observed French parents disciplining their kids. If the kid is acting up on the streets or at the parks, the father shuts down the kid immediately. If the kid doesn't behave, the parents will simply not take the kid out to town.

[OutWest]

When I was in France, I observed French parents disciplining their kids. If the kid is acting up on the streets or at the parks, the father shuts down the kid immediately. If the kid doesn't behave, the parents will simply not take the kid out to town.

The average US parent is so totally saturated with psychobabble crap that they cannot even rationally think. It's "time outs" and trips to the shrink, crap on crap with predictable results. Even in the dirt poor Philippines, it is a pleasure to be near school kids here...polite, well scrubbed kids in uniforms, a far cry from the rampaging juvenile delinquents around many US schools.

Outwest

[pete98146]

When I was in France, I observed French parents disciplining their kids. If the kid is acting up on the streets or at the parks, the father shuts down the kid immediately. If the kid doesn't behave, the parents will simply not take the kid out to town.

The average US parent is so totally saturated with psychobabble crap that they cannot even rationally think. It's "time outs" and trips to the shrink, crap on crap with predictable results. Even in the dirt poor Philippines, it is a pleasure to be near school kids here...polite, well scrubbed kids in uniforms, a far cry from the rampaging juvenile delinquents around many US schools.

Outwest

Agreed Outwest. I remember walking into a hardware store a few months back here in Seattle and kneeled by the front door there was a (my guess single) mother talking to her son who was having a temper tantrum. Instead of putting the fear of god in the little bastard, she was saying, "oh if you behave mommy will give you an ice cream bar when we get home." You NEVER negotiate with children...gives them all the power. Wrong approach and kids never learn from this method. Discipline has a place in life especially with children.

[zboy1]

In America, everything is about 'self esteem' and how to baby your kids. That's why this country is going down the crapper.

[E_Irizarry]

When I was in France, I observed French parents disciplining their kids. If the kid is acting up on the streets or at the parks, the father shuts down the kid immediately. If the kid doesn't behave, the parents will simply not take the kid out to town.

The average US parent is so totally saturated with psychobabble crap that they cannot even rationally think. It's "time outs" and trips to the shrink, crap on crap with predictable results. Even in the dirt poor Philippines, it is a pleasure to be near school kids here...polite, well scrubbed kids in uniforms, a far cry from the rampaging juvenile delinquents around many US schools.

Outwest

I somewhat disagree. I feel that the Christian Pinoys/Pinays were always laughing behind my back at an audible distant because I'm a man of larger body type (not fat but big enough to be called "baboy" (pig)- even though I heard it's a term of endearment there)

Muslim Filipinos in Mindinao were much more behaved than their Christian Filipino counter parts.

[fdiv]

When I was in France, I observed French parents disciplining their kids. If the kid is acting up on the streets or at the parks, the father shuts down the kid immediately. If the kid doesn't behave, the parents will simply not take the kid out to town.

The average US parent is so totally saturated with psychobabble crap that they cannot even rationally think. It's "time outs" and trips to the shrink, crap on crap with predictable results. Even in the dirt poor Philippines, it is a pleasure to be near school kids here...polite, well scrubbed kids in uniforms, a far cry from the rampaging juvenile delinquents around many US schools.

Outwest

Agreed Outwest. I remember walking into a hardware store a few months back here in Seattle and kneeled by the front door there was a (my guess single) mother talking to her son who was having a temper tantrum. Instead of putting the fear of god in the little bastard, she was saying, "oh if you behave mommy will give you an ice cream bar when we get home." You NEVER negotiate with children...gives them all the power. Wrong approach and kids never learn from this method. Discipline has a place in life especially with children.

The proven approach is for her to say this to the kid. When they both get home, kid says "where's my ice cream?" Then the mom should say "go ask your father".....kid goes to the father who, WHAM, gives him the belt for being an insolent brat.

Kid learns many lessons in one:
1) don't be a shithead in public
2) do what your mom says
3) you didn't see that coming, did you? Consequences for being a shit are severe and will come even if you don't see them coming. Solution? don't be a shit.
4) women are unpredictable also and the tyke learns to properly associate female volatility with pain and negative things. He thought he was going to get ice cream but got the belt!!!

Now THAT'S childrearing!!!!

[GuyAbroad8293]

I was at a shopping center in Chiang Mai (Thailand) today when I heard a sound that I haven't heard in a while - that of an annoying crying screaming baby.

I looked to the source of the sound and - no surprises here - the baby was from a western family.

Needless to say, the mother and father were obese, as well as the babies siblings.

What is it with western babies acting like this? Do they have a bad diet, or something? Are they simply spoiled?

It's cause western parents are f***ing pussies and never discipline their kids. The West is becoming a f***ing Zoo because the children are all literally rabid wild animals.

Even tho i'm a white guy, I think white children are ugly and look like vicious little demons. Asian kids look much more innocent and happy.

[Winston]

An expat told me something interesting once. He said that in other countries, parents sleep together with their infant baby. But in the US, the parents put it into a crib in a separate room and only tend to it when it's crying. So after birth, the infant is separated from its parents, in America. So this may traumatize the infant because it experiences a sense of separateness that infants in other countries do not. He said that this is why foreign kids seem happier than American kids. And why foreign families are closer and more close knit than American families. That's interesting, and maybe related here.

[GuyAbroad8293]

An expat told me something interesting once. He said that in other countries, parents sleep together with their infant baby. But in the US, the parents put it into a crib in a separate room and only tend to it when it's crying. So after birth, the infant is separated from its parents, in America. So this may traumatize the infant because it experiences a sense of separateness that infants in other countries do not. He said that this is why foreign kids seem happier than American kids. And why foreign families are closer and more close knit than American families. That's interesting, and maybe related here.

White women throughout history have given their children over to brown maids to raise for them. Apparently, raising children is a "burden" to a white woman. This creates a subtle psychological mentality of detachment and impersonalism. Hence why there doesn't seem to be very strong friendship bonds in the West. White children never even have a strong bond with their own parents, so how can we expect them to bond with anyone else?

Some guy in the 50s did research on baby monkeys and depriving them on their mothers and he basically proved that separating babies from their mothers will create long term psychosis.

This is also why white men are flocking into the arms of brown women. It's like brown women are giving them the affection they never experienced from their own mothers.

For this reason alone, I cannot support the whole white supremacist alt-right bullcrap. I mean, we're supposed to white knight for white women and "save" them? To hell with that. White women can burn in hell and I hope they do.

[josephty2]

Winston said: "An expat told me something interesting once. He said that in other countries, parents sleep together with their infant baby. But in the US, the parents put it into a crib in a separate room and only tend to it when it's crying. So after birth, the infant is separated from its parents, in America. So this may traumatize the infant because it experiences a sense of separateness that infants in other countries do not. He said that this is why foreign kids seem happier than American kids. And why foreign families are closer and more close knit than American families. That's interesting, and maybe related here."

must be bad karma.

[MrMan]

I was at a shopping center in Chiang Mai (Thailand) today when I heard a sound that I haven't heard in a while - that of an annoying crying screaming baby.

I looked to the source of the sound and - no surprises here - the baby was from a western family.

Needless to say, the mother and father were obese, as well as the babies siblings.

What is it with western babies acting like this? Do they have a bad diet, or something? Are they simply spoiled?

I've heard really little ones carrying on in Indonesia, but it may be the case that even the little ones are louder in the US sometimes. I'd have to think about that.

When they get a little older, it sure seems like American kids tend to be more poorly behaved. My kids are well behaved, mild-mannered children. They get along pretty well with one another. I had the kids ride the bus and one of the middle school girls, in particular, was shocked to hear all the cussing on the bus, one girl claim to be a lesbian, and then let some dude feel her up and simulate sexual intercourse with their clothes on. I called to complain. We ended up moving and putting them in another school.

They've commented on the difference of behavior between kids in the US and in Indonesia.

My wife's people-group are always teaching the kids to honor their parents. They keep teaching the girls to help in the kitchen and stuff like that. The kids get onto each other's cases about the same sort of thing.

[josephty2]

In the west coast of US, there is little incentive to have relatives live near one amonst though I never been to San Diego, Arizona, or New Mexico, or the Amish community in Utah. Is it different there? Asians probably wouldn't go to Arizona or New Mexico.

In Vietnam, especially Ho Chi Minh City, everyone there is basically vietnamese. Of course its easier for Asian parents Ithey call themselves vietnamese not "asian") to raise children there.

In the US where the Native Americans were the first group of people here?

Comparing Western US children to European children is better question to ask.