The catch 22 situation of the 'nice girl'

[MasterBates]

I've traveled extensively over the past 3 years in search of a different way of life.

My sallies haven't solely revolved around women but, having said that, it has played a major part in my transient lifestyle.

I don't need to delve into the reasons why the women of afar are more attractive prospects.

My fieldwork abroad has uncovered a troublesome dichotomy: the 'nice girl' syndrome.

These girls are so perfect and enchanting in every way -- except of course sexually.

I get sucked in by their sweetness and effervescence, only to then find out they will only proffer themselves sexually to their future husbands. It really blows whale phallus.

This has resulted in most -- not all but the majority -- of my sexual encounters requiring a trip of shame to the ATM machine. My passion rocket needs to launched one way or the other. LOL.

But this isn't a healthy way to quell one's urges in the long term. Building up such a list of iniquity will damage ones soul if repeated too frequently.
So, has anyone had any success in unlocking some of the more virtuous and conservative women? Is there a special methodology that can crack their unnatural chastity?

Many thanks for any suggestions.

[germanguy]

What do you expect? A "nice girl" is not just going to f**k around with some tourists. Is that surprising or unexpected to you?

Don´t really understand what the point of this thread is.

Might as well start a thread about water being wet and fire being hot.

[MasterBates]

What do you expect? A "nice girl" is not just going to f**k around with some tourists. Is that surprising or unexpected to you?

Don´t really understand what the point of this thread is.

Might as well start a thread about water being wet and fire being hot.

I want to find out if anyone here has succeeded in breaking down that sexual firewall.

Edit: I see English is not you native language --that explains your comprehension issues.

[germanguy]

I want to find out if anyone here has succeeded in breaking down that sexual firewall.

Edit: I see English is not you native language --that explains your comprehension issues.

If a girl is f***ing around with some tourist then she can´t be a "nice girl"... Asking if there has been somebody who casually f***ed a "nice girl" is pointless because in this case the girl wasn´t "a nice girl" to begin with.

Your question is totally paradox... And my language skills certainly do not have anything to do with that.

[C.J.]

In a normal world, people actually get to know each other, fall in love, have sex blah blah blah. All you have to do is make the woman think she's going to be married to you. And have a happy life. This isn't hard at all. You may have to spend more than a couple hours to get in there though.

But that's why I hate mongers. They're usually westerners, and they're too lustful, derogatory animals. They expect a decent woman to just open their legs like a 7-11! It perplexes me why people would think in such a way. But the west and westerner-catering countries like Thailand are one of the few places where dirty westerners can indulge in soul-destroying, derogatory sex until they die.

Being a sex-starved westerner is not a reasonable way to live. It brings nothing but emptiness and it gets worse the more you do it. I thought knowing this, westerners would choose to live for a higher purpose. To each their own hell I suppose.

[MasterBates]

In a normal world, people actually get to know each other, fall in love, have sex blah blah blah. All you have to do is make the woman think she's going to be married to you. And have a happy life. This isn't hard at all. You may have to spend more than a couple hours to get in there though.

But that's why I hate mongers. They're usually westerners, and they're too lustful, derogatory animals. They expect a decent woman to just open their legs like a 7-11! It perplexes me why people would think in such a way. But the west and westerner-catering countries like Thailand are one of the few places where dirty westerners can indulge in soul-destroying, derogatory sex until they die.

Being a sex-starved westerner is not a reasonable way to live. It brings nothing but emptiness and it gets worse the more you do it. I thought knowing this, westerners would choose to live for a higher purpose. To each their own hell I suppose.

I never suggested that they should, but it would be nice if I didn't have to get married just to make love with a girl.

I wouldn't describe myself as a 'monger' at all.

Ideally I would like a stable, long term relationship, I never want to marry.

[germanguy]

I never suggested that they should, but it would be nice if I didn't have to get married just to make love with a girl.

I wouldn't describe myself as a 'monger' at all.

Ideally I would like a stable, long term relationship, I never want to marry.

So in other words you want a traditional girl, but don´t want to marry her and expect to have casual sex with her as well. And then you act surprised and wonder why this is not going to work?

Why not stay in the US and f**k random sluts if you just want casual sex and no marriage?

You leave the US to find traditional girls and then you act surprised because they are traditional?

And how are you not a monger even though you have admitted to having sex with hookers regularly?

Sorry but you are completely delusional...

[Winston]

In a normal world, people actually get to know each other, fall in love, have sex blah blah blah. All you have to do is make the woman think she's going to be married to you. And have a happy life. This isn't hard at all. You may have to spend more than a couple hours to get in there though.

But that's why I hate mongers. They're usually westerners, and they're too lustful, derogatory animals. They expect a decent woman to just open their legs like a 7-11! It perplexes me why people would think in such a way. But the west and westerner-catering countries like Thailand are one of the few places where dirty westerners can indulge in soul-destroying, derogatory sex until they die.

Being a sex-starved westerner is not a reasonable way to live. It brings nothing but emptiness and it gets worse the more you do it. I thought knowing this, westerners would choose to live for a higher purpose. To each their own hell I suppose.

It does not bring nothing but emptiness. That's a dismal way to look at it. If you monger right, it brings pleasure, satisfaction and variety, even if only temporarily. But alas, everything is temporary. That's life. Isn't it better to enjoy it than not to? Some of my mongering sexual experiences were better than my relationship ones. If you find the right one in SE Asia, she can put you on cloud 9 too, for an out of this world experience. These are experiences you would never trade for anything.

On the other hand, if you get married, most likely you will stop having sex after a while when you get sick of banging the same person everyday. Then you will fall into a "sexless life" routine. What then? You can't have another woman without cheating on your wife. So what then? You're screwed aren't you?

If "variety is the spice of life" then doesn't that apply to sexual experiences too? Why is it that variety in travel, food, and culture is ok, but not in sex?

Everything has its pluses and minuses, but you act as if all mongering only has minuses. That's definitely not true at all.

[magnum]

...I've been looking for a girl like that my entire life, where do I go to find this "nice girl" problem, I want a untainted girl, so do tell, where should I be going?


Even the nice girls from other countries I've met are never virgins, so how am I missing this large body of "nice girls" you speak of!

[germanguy]

If "variety is the spice of life" then doesn't that apply to sexual experiences too? Why is it that variety in travel, food, and culture is ok, but not in sex?

Sure if you are OK with other man having sex with your gf/wife...And also comparing promiscuity to eating different food and travel to different places doesn´t make much sense to me.

Even the nice girls from other countries I've met are never virgins, so how am I missing this large body of "nice girls" you speak of!

That´s because you are looking at the wrong places. Go to traditional Asian countries, live there for a while and get out of the big cities. Don´t go to bars or date online instead go to smaller cities that are not heavily frequented by other foreigners. No decent traditional Asian girl will go clubbing or drinking beer at a bar.

[Ghost]

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[S_Parc]

It does not bring nothing but emptiness. That's a dismal way to look at it. If you monger right, it brings pleasure, satisfaction and variety, even if only temporarily. But alas, everything is temporary. That's life. Isn't it better to enjoy it than not to? Some of my mongering sexual experiences were better than my relationship ones. If you find the right one in SE Asia, she can put you on cloud 9 too, for an out of this world experience. These are experiences you would never trade for anything.

On the other hand, if you get married, most likely you will stop having sex after a while when you get sick of banging the same person everyday. Then you will fall into a "sexless life" routine. What then? You can't have another woman without cheating on your wife. So what then? You're screwed aren't you?

If "variety is the spice of life" then doesn't that apply to sexual experiences too? Why is it that variety in travel, food, and culture is ok, but not in sex?

Everything has its pluses and minuses, but you act as if all mongering only has minuses. That's definitely not true at all.

Well Winston, you need a "wife", as a domestic partner but then, need to go out for a b*ink. I think that's really what the problem is, for men like us. It's kinda like as time goes by, no one wants to b*ink a roommate, even if the roommate is a female, unless she's so gorgeous/feminine/so-called perfect that you can't take your eyes off her. And that's because you see 'em when they have a bad hair day, unclean {you-know-what}, bad breath, etc, etc. A housemate, over time, is simply a companion. They're nice to share a pizza with, discuss some latest vignette, or simply split a few wine coolers.

I'd much rather go out and spend a four day weekend, once every month, and enjoy a 5 star GFE esc@rt and then, return to my daily routine without banging anyone locally. In a sense, I'm sort of developing that relationship with my lesbian ex-classmate. Since she's not into men, her and I have this sort of hanging out/good times which normally people have, but at the same time, I go up to Montreal for the periodic b*inks and as a result, I have virtually no interest in women whatsoever.

[C.J.]

It does not bring nothing but emptiness. That's a dismal way to look at it. If you monger right, it brings pleasure, satisfaction and variety, even if only temporarily. But alas, everything is temporary. That's life. Isn't it better to enjoy it than not to? Some of my mongering sexual experiences were better than my relationship ones. If you find the right one in SE Asia, she can put you on cloud 9 too, for an out of this world experience. These are experiences you would never trade for anything.

I've had some great sex with hookers. I even found a white chick who barebacked as long as you wanted for the price of a videogame. She was a "green and clean" escort! Personally, I wish that I never had those experiences. But I'm glad that I did, they made me realize how deadly giving in to your primitive desires can be.

On the other hand, if you get married, most likely you will stop having sex after a while when you get sick of banging the same person everyday. Then you will fall into a "sexless life" routine. What then? You can't have another woman without cheating on your wife. So what then? You're screwed aren't you?

It depends on who you marry and how quickly. If you just keep giving, people are gonna walk on you.

If "variety is the spice of life" then doesn't that apply to sexual experiences too? Why is it that variety in travel, food, and culture is ok, but not in sex?

My opinion is based on how sex actually works, and my experiences having sex with people. I have no need to settle sexual urges. It's a luxury I can afford not to have now.

Everything has its pluses and minuses, but you act as if all mongering only has minuses. That's definitely not true at all.

No, frequent sex has more minuses than pluses. Most of you think that sex has only a plus, pleasure and a pro, babies. But it carries way more cons than pros. And Winston, I can tell how sex has affected you, just by your posting here. Usually, people with low energy lost it from frequent sex.

The only thing I hate about mongers is their tendency to spoil the purer fruit. If they just messed with like people(whores for whores), then I wouldn't mind them personally. I also have a beef with this norwegian man-whore who messed with a good girl I liked a while back, before I met her. He was deceitful, ugly and stupid. Classic westerner.

[MasterBates]

I never suggested that they should, but it would be nice if I didn't have to get married just to make love with a girl.

I wouldn't describe myself as a 'monger' at all.

Ideally I would like a stable, long term relationship, I never want to marry.

So in other words you want a traditional girl, but don´t want to marry her and expect to have casual sex with her as well. And then you act surprised and wonder why this is not going to work?

Why not stay in the US and f**k random sluts if you just want casual sex and no marriage?

You leave the US to find traditional girls and then you act surprised because they are traditional?

And how are you not a monger even though you have admitted to having sex with hookers regularly?

Sorry but you are completely delusional...

Your presumptuous and acerbic nature explain why you failed so miserably to relate to your German compatriots.

How dare you presume that I'm American! How arrogant and ignorant of you!

This forum appears to be populated by crazed, religious nutters who think that one has to get married before he has the right to enjoy sexual relations.

If that's the case, how the f**k can one be 'happier abroad'?

I refuse to accept that the nice girls really want to abide by their ingrained social constraints. They are just as human as I; they want to experience the same pleasures.

I was hoping fellow members would be able to offer tips as to how I could circumvent the pre existing barriers to a more natural and healthy relationship. Evidently members herein have no such knowledge and simply kowtow to the rigid conventions initiated by religious extremists of old.

Utter insanity.

[Anti-American]

Catch 22 is a no win situation correct?