Do most of us have Asperger's or are we just too introverted and freethinking?

[HouseMD]

But most are. I gave many examples. Can you give me some examples to the contrary? Have you seen all the school of life videos and academy of ideas videos on YouTube? All the philosophers they discuss were not happy well adjusted people. No way.

What's your definition of a great philosopher? Are you talking about popular ones or geniuses? Name a genius who was mainstream. Tesla wasnt. He never even had a girlfriend. Just because someone is successful in business doesnt mean hes a great philosophy or genius. You know that?

There are too many to list. Take Immanuel Kant for example, the greatest philosopher of the 18th century (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Kant). The Wikipedia profile says he could not finish his studies and initially worked as a private tutor while developing his philosophical research. By the time he was appointed a Full Professor at the University of Königsberg, he had already published most of his most important works and was a very respected figure in the European thinking circles.

On the modern side, take Slavoj Žižek, by many considered the greatest philosopher alive (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavoj_%C5%BDi%C5%BEek). He is a researcher at a Slovenian University, has scholarly assignments around the world and, despite his strong radical leftwing ideas, nothing from his biography portrays him as having an alienated, weird and awkward personality.

In fact, fun fact, just read on and you'll discover he has been married to an Argentian model Not bad, for a bearded commie!

Dude. Have you tried reading Kant? His books are not readable. Normal layman cannot read them. But normal layman can read Nietzsche or Schopenhauer or Plato. Plus what did Kant accomplish? What were his new ideas? He rejected God but had no explanation to replace him to explain the universe. His concepts like "categorical imperative" don't make sense and aren't understandable to most people. Nor do they apply to the real world. Way too abstract. Most people would find his words meaningless.

I don't know that second guy above. How can he be great? He's a communist, exactly what's in trend now at universities. Leftism and marxism have hijacked academia. Didn't you know that? Of course communist authors will be praised. But he is going with the trend, not going against it. What's so great about that? Most university professors are leftists and socialists nowadays. Nothing special. What new ideas does this guy have? I've never even heard of him. No one here likes Communists and Atheists. They are full of obvious lies that even a 5 year old would reject, such as:

- Science has proven that God doesn't exist and isn't necessary to explain the origin of life or the universe.
- A good God who is all powerful would not let good people suffer on Earth. Therefore God doesn't exist. Atheism is right and the ultimate highest truth.
- All people and races and genders are equal. No such thing as race. There are no inherent differences.
Etc.

They all go against logic and human nature. If you told a 5 year old child that his dad was bad or neglectful and therefore he doesn't exist and never existed, would he buy it? Of course not. Even a 5 year old isn't stupid enough to believe that. Furthermore, if you told a 5 year old child that he had no parents and was created in a mud pool when random chemicals mixed together, would he believe it? Of course not. Even a child knows that's BS and would not buy it. Even cavemen would not buy something that absurd. Yet leftist atheist university professors with Ph D's believe these things are all facts and proven by science! Go figure! How can educated professors believe in stuff that's dumber than dumb, negative 1000 dumb, which even children would not believe? lol. Just goes to prove how delusional and crazy academia has become when they parrot obvious lies and take them seriously and even cite them as fact. lol. It's just like telling a normal person to believe that Microsoft Windows was created by monkeys typing random keystrokes in the source code with no intelligent programmers. lol. No one would buy that, yet university professors who are hip and trendy and leftist and atheist do?! LOL LMAO!

Sorry for going off topic. But you need to look at the bigger picture.

Socrates, Plato, Camus, Descartes, and I could go on and on, were philosophers with many close friends, active social lives, and the ability to be effective communicators. Tesla was a scientist, not a philosopher. Some philosophers are lonely or socially awkward, but there are a many that are not, as philosophers are people and people can be introverted or extroverted, lonely or loved. Often the picture painted in YouTube videos (yikes if that's where you're getting your philosophy) is sensationalized with regard to the lives and times of famous figures, making them seem excessively tragic or grand, when in fact primary sources in the literature will tell you otherwise. One could paint Socrates, for instance, as a loathed man, which he was in some circles, but in his own he was beloved and surrounded by numerous close friends. Plato believed friendship to be so important that he called it the highest form of love.

And I'm sorry you're too unintelligent to understand Kant, but that does explain your ease of falling for conspiracy theories and the like- you confuse complexity without complication for brilliance, while actual brilliance is often complicated and beyond the layman.

[Cornfed]

In fact, fun fact, just read on and you'll discover he has been married to an Argentian model Not bad, for a bearded commie!

She's nothing to write home about. Middling face, no muscle tone, weird torso, possibly a tranny etc.

[HouseMD]

Asperger's is a real thing but I doubt anyone here has it. Real Aspies have problems relating with people and are extremely awkward. If you can come to this forum and communicate and relate social experiences then you are not an Aspie.

I would tend to agree. That's my gut feeling and hunch as well. But since I don't know much about Asperger's, I'm trying to find out about it and see if most of us have it here, which explains why we are different. I've been wondering for years myself about why I am different from others, even though I never chose to be. It's a big mystery and 64k question. So I'm exploring all possible explanations. This is just one of them. I can't rule it out without looking into it first. That's what good researchers do.

When I was in 4th grade, I was automatically slapped with the label "mistfit/outcast" and treated as such, out of nowhere, without my permission. I swear to God. Since then, I've always wondered why most people in America dislike me and excluded me for no logical reason. Even the "Christians brothers" at church seemed to want to exclude me, albeit politely. Just by asking this kind of question will draw a lot of ridicule and insults of course, but such ridicule does not contain any logical answers or insights or explanations, so they are useless and contain many fallacies too.

@HouseMD is what Repatriate says above true? Or does it only apply to low functioning people on the extreme end of autism?

Why are you guys so obsessed with Aspergers and Autism?

Most introverts are not either one.

I would agree. But some people on the forum, such as the judgmental guys above, seem to use Aspergers as a label that they slap onto anyone they don't like or think is weird or want to shame or ridicule. Thus it's a shaming tactic, typical of judgmental bastards. That's what muddies the waters here. I'm wondering how much of Asperger's is real and how much is just a label and shaming tactic from assholes who like to judge others and put a negative label on them.

In the second page of this thread, someone said that there is neurological evidence that Asperger's is real which can be determinded from a brain scan or catscan. And that this evidence shows that Aspies are neurologically wired differently and have a different brain structure. If that's true then that is objective evidence, not a hate label. What that means is that unless a brain scan shows that I have Asperger's according to objective scientific criteria, then anyone who calls me an Aspie is just a hater who wants to put a label on me to shame me and discredit me and ridicule me, and therefore not credible. Such people are not my real friends of course, but they do exist, even on this forum.

Aspergers is specifically the inability to understand social cues and situations properly. It isn't being poorly socislized, it is an absolute inability to read people without realizing such. It is a neurological problem that is likely due to a lack of mirror neuron functionality. Most awkward or lonely people don't have it. They often have hyperfixations on certain topics and will go on at length about them beyond what would be considered normal or socially acceptable, have difficulty talking about anything other than their interests, and due to this tend to annoy the hell out of people around them. This leads to people avoiding them entirely because they're just irritating to deal with, and due to their lack of social awareness they have no idea why this is occurring.

They often have inflated senses of self-importance and intelligence despite often being less intelligent than average. This inflated sense of intelligence and superiority often leads to frustration on their part when they are not recognized by others, and on the part of others who easily see them for what they are, socially inept hyperfocused individuals that aren't nearly as bright as they think they are.

Are you supremely annoying or do you have Asperger's syndrome? Only a doctor can tell you. But whether it is the former or the latter, I can assure you, old friend, that you are not the clown, but rather the entire circus. One doesn't end up on lolcow wikis because they're some brilliant misunderstood genius.

[HouseMD]

In fact, fun fact, just read on and you'll discover he has been married to an Argentian model Not bad, for a bearded commie!

She's nothing to write home about. Middling face, no muscle tone, weird torso, possibly a tranny etc.

I'm sure the women are writing home about what a catch you are on the daily

[hypermak]

She's nothing to write home about. Middling face, no muscle tone, weird torso, possibly a tranny etc.

That's the only photo I could find, of her. I don't think she is a particularly famous. She's far from ugly, though, and definitely not the kind of girl a socially awkward borderline autistic man would end up with.

[Cornfed]

I'm sure the women are writing home about what a catch you are on the daily

Lol, well the thing is that no-one is expecting them to. The reason for my post is that her face looks very like mine as a younger man and her body looks like an inferior version of mine (although I never had tits of course).

[HouseMD]

I'm sure the women are writing home about what a catch you are on the daily

Lol, well the thing is that no-one is expecting them to. The reason for my post is that her face looks very like mine as a younger man and her body looks like an inferior version of mine (although I never had tits of course).

Your obsession with trans people is pretty creepy. When you're seeing dicks everywhere, even when you're looking at women, maybe the problem is within

[Cornfed]

I'm sure the women are writing home about what a catch you are on the daily

Lol, well the thing is that no-one is expecting them to. The reason for my post is that her face looks very like mine as a younger man and her body looks like an inferior version of mine (although I never had tits of course).

Your obsession with trans people is pretty creepy. When you're seeing dicks everywhere, even when you're looking at women, maybe the problem is within

There is no problem. It is just what is staring you in the face.

[HouseMD]

I'm sure the women are writing home about what a catch you are on the daily

Lol, well the thing is that no-one is expecting them to. The reason for my post is that her face looks very like mine as a younger man and her body looks like an inferior version of mine (although I never had tits of course).

Your obsession with trans people is pretty creepy. When you're seeing dicks everywhere, even when you're looking at women, maybe the problem is within

There is no problem. It is just what is staring you in the face.

So penises are always starting you in the face, even when you see women? Interesting

[Winston]

Socrates, Plato, Camus, Descartes, and I could go on and on, were philosophers with many close friends, active social lives, and the ability to be effective communicators. Tesla was a scientist, not a philosopher. Some philosophers are lonely or socially awkward, but there are a many that are not, as philosophers are people and people can be introverted or extroverted, lonely or loved. Often the picture painted in YouTube videos (yikes if that's where you're getting your philosophy) is sensationalized with regard to the lives and times of famous figures, making them seem excessively tragic or grand, when in fact primary sources in the literature will tell you otherwise. One could paint Socrates, for instance, as a loathed man, which he was in some circles, but in his own he was beloved and surrounded by numerous close friends. Plato believed friendship to be so important that he called it the highest form of love.

And I'm sorry you're too unintelligent to understand Kant, but that does explain your ease of falling for conspiracy theories and the like- you confuse complexity without complication for brilliance, while actual brilliance is often complicated and beyond the layman.

Excuse me. But Socrates was declared an enemy of the state and forced to either drink poison and die, or recant his teachings and stop them. He chose the former of course. Yes he may have had his circle of students and followers, but being an enemy of the state is no fun. I doubt if that counts as being happy or not. Hard to say. As long as he had inner peace, that's what mattered.

However, none of those you named would have been happy or well adjusted if they had grown up in 1980s California, which was full of pretentiousness, fakeness, and cliquishness and other horrible traits I can't put into words. Keep that in mind.

I never use the word "socially awkward". Only judgmental conformists use that word. Not me. That's a shaming tactic. Just because someone isn't fake and doesn't act like an airhead doesn't make them socially awkward. Ask anyone who went to CA high school in the 80's. Everyone has baggage from that era. Anyone who was down to earth and normal and authentic would be seen as socially awkward there for no reason.

I'm not too unintelligent to understand Kant. He's not my cup of tea. No one quotes him. He has no brilliant quotes to quote from. You keep judging people. Why not judge yourself? Why don't I say that you are too unintelligent to understand me? Lol

Conspiracy theories or conspiracy facts rather, are not crazy. Many are true and well proven. You've done no research on that obviously. Sorry if you are too unintelligent to understand conspiracies. Almost all US Presidents between George Washington and JFK have admitted that conspiracies and a deep state cabal run America. I posted their quotes many times. That's just one of many proofs. If most US Presidents see the conspiracy, they would be in the know wouldn't they? lol. DUH!

[Winston]

I'm sure the women are writing home about what a catch you are on the daily

Lol, well the thing is that no-one is expecting them to. The reason for my post is that her face looks very like mine as a younger man and her body looks like an inferior version of mine (although I never had tits of course).

Are you saying you looked like a girl when you were younger? That's weird. Why would you say that? Why would you admit that? I thought you were a traditional masculine man?

[Cornfed]

Are you saying you looked like a girl when you were younger? That's weird. Why would you say that? Why would you admit that? I thought you were a traditional masculine man?

I'm saying the girl looks manly.

[HouseMD]

Socrates, Plato, Camus, Descartes, and I could go on and on, were philosophers with many close friends, active social lives, and the ability to be effective communicators. Tesla was a scientist, not a philosopher. Some philosophers are lonely or socially awkward, but there are a many that are not, as philosophers are people and people can be introverted or extroverted, lonely or loved. Often the picture painted in YouTube videos (yikes if that's where you're getting your philosophy) is sensationalized with regard to the lives and times of famous figures, making them seem excessively tragic or grand, when in fact primary sources in the literature will tell you otherwise. One could paint Socrates, for instance, as a loathed man, which he was in some circles, but in his own he was beloved and surrounded by numerous close friends. Plato believed friendship to be so important that he called it the highest form of love.

And I'm sorry you're too unintelligent to understand Kant, but that does explain your ease of falling for conspiracy theories and the like- you confuse complexity without complication for brilliance, while actual brilliance is often complicated and beyond the layman.

Excuse me. But Socrates was declared an enemy of the state and forced to either drink poison and die, or recant his teachings and stop them. He chose the former of course. Yes he may have had his circle of students and followers, but being an enemy of the state is no fun. I doubt if that counts as being happy or not. Hard to say. As long as he had inner peace, that's what mattered.

However, none of those you named would have been happy or well adjusted if they had grown up in 1980s California, which was full of pretentiousness, fakeness, and cliquishness and other horrible traits I can't put into words. Keep that in mind.

I never use the word "socially awkward". Only judgmental conformists use that word. Not me. That's a shaming tactic. Just because someone isn't fake and doesn't act like an airhead doesn't make them socially awkward. Ask anyone who went to CA high school in the 80's. Everyone has baggage from that era. Anyone who was down to earth and normal and authentic would be seen as socially awkward there for no reason.

I'm not too unintelligent to understand Kant. He's not my cup of tea. No one quotes him. He has no brilliant quotes to quote from. You keep judging people. Why not judge yourself? Why don't I say that you are too unintelligent to understand me? Lol

Conspiracy theories or conspiracy facts rather, are not crazy. Many are true and well proven. You've done no research on that obviously. Sorry if you are too unintelligent to understand conspiracies. Almost all US Presidents between George Washington and JFK have admitted that conspiracies and a deep state cabal run America. I posted their quotes many times. That's just one of many proofs. If most US Presidents see the conspiracy, they would be in the know wouldn't they? lol. DUH!

There is no emoji by which I can successfully express the amount of eye rolling you just induced, sufficed to say my eyes nearly escaped my skull. Socially awkward people aren't bad people, they just lack social skills and there's nothing wrong with that. You are beyond that though, you're some top tier cringe wuth zero insight. I'm very well aware of my flaws, and that I'm just some guy. You are the one running around claiming you're some great thinker while spouting nonsense that is easy for everyone else to see through

[Winston]

No Yick. You misunderstood me.

No I did not!

I never said all or most English teachers in Asia were losers.

Yeah you did!

I said there is probably a mix of some losers and eccentric types. Didn't Marcos said an article claimed that 50 percent of them were Aspies? They tend to be friendly to me superficially, but I don't know them that well.

This is what you said.

I do agree with you about English teachers in Asia though. A lot of them are losers and weirdos. Not all are nice down to earth people. A lot of them BS a lot too and act airheadish. But if they can speak in front of a class and teach English in a clear crisp voice, doesn't that make them functioning adults? I know some English teachers in Asia and some are ok but others are weird and airheadish. Some are just eccentric. But some lie and BS a lot and claim that they are getting laid all the time and that it's easy to get sex and that girls are always staring at them with sexual lust, etc. Ask @WorldTraveler, he knows countlesss guys that claim that but when you investigate they have no evidence that they are always getting laid by women, and are full of hot air.

Either way, the bosses of those English schools have told me that most of the English teachers that apply to work for them are losers and drunkards who show up late for work and get a drunk a lot. In 2004 a lady in Taiwan that ran a chain of English schools said that to me, that most of the English teachers she hired were losers who drank a lot and showed up late for work a lot. Her opinion, not mine. There is also a public perception in Asia that most English teachers are losers or perverts or something. I don't know how true that is. I'm just guessing that there must be some truth to it. The bad apples get the attention unfortunately.

A lot of those bosses, especially of Taiwanese buxibans are crooks and incompetent and are happy (like you state in the last paragraph) to exploit English teachers working for them with their annoying micromanaging ways and if anyone stands up to them and complains then they're 'losers' f**k them! They are hardly character references when they are lacking in most basic standards of decency, they have yet to realise that if you treat your employees badly then they won't put in their best efforts.

Of course, not every boss is an arsehole and yes, some teachers are drunkards and have no qualifications but the bosses of these schools employ those teachers even if they have the simple qualification of having blond hair or being young - they will hire Poles and Ukrainians and get them to tell the student body they are from Canada - lots of buxiban bosses in Taiwan are scumbags and they aren't any kind of character reference at all.

However, that boss in Taiwan was an extremist with warped views. She told me that she thought anyone who didn't work 7 days a week and wanted to have fun in life was a loser and lazy ass. Her belief was that people should not enjoy life, but work 7 days a week, like she does. She actually said that. Some Chinese and Taiwanese do think like that it seems, it's crazy and warped. No one in Europe would say that. Her beliefs seemed insane. So I don't know how credible she was.

Exactly!

Well I said "a lot". Not all or most. I haven't met that many to judge. The term "a lot" is a bit subjective. It doesn't mean most or majority necessarily. 1 percent out of a million people could be considered a lot too, depending on how you look at it.

Yeah Taiwanese bosses are mean as shit and unfair and crazy. I'm glad I never worked there. Their culture is very hateful in general too. Even the Taiwanese people in the US secret talk shit about you and gossip behind your back. They are hateful mother fuckers and should be exposed, that's for sure. That's why most English teachers left Taiwan long ago. And that's why English teachers have a negative reputation in Taiwan and are seen as losers and perverts. I also hate the Taiwanese vibe too, it gives me the creeps.

How do you know anything about Taiwanese bushiban bosses? Do you have experience with them? Where? In Taiwan? Or is it what you heard from others?

When that Taiwanese boss told me that she felt that anyone who didn't wanna work 7 days a week was a loser, I was stunned and thought she was joking. But she was serious. I didn't know what to say. When she asked me "Are you someone who likes to have fun or play?" I said "Sure sometimes. Doesn't everyone?" What did she expect me to say? That "I came here from America to work 7 days a week in Taiwan and be miserable"? lol.

I always assumed that Taiwanese bosses treated foreigners like special guests with lots of extra hospitality? Is that a myth? Or does that not apply to the English teaching world?

[Winston]

Socrates, Plato, Camus, Descartes, and I could go on and on, were philosophers with many close friends, active social lives, and the ability to be effective communicators. Tesla was a scientist, not a philosopher. Some philosophers are lonely or socially awkward, but there are a many that are not, as philosophers are people and people can be introverted or extroverted, lonely or loved. Often the picture painted in YouTube videos (yikes if that's where you're getting your philosophy) is sensationalized with regard to the lives and times of famous figures, making them seem excessively tragic or grand, when in fact primary sources in the literature will tell you otherwise. One could paint Socrates, for instance, as a loathed man, which he was in some circles, but in his own he was beloved and surrounded by numerous close friends. Plato believed friendship to be so important that he called it the highest form of love.

And I'm sorry you're too unintelligent to understand Kant, but that does explain your ease of falling for conspiracy theories and the like- you confuse complexity without complication for brilliance, while actual brilliance is often complicated and beyond the layman.

Excuse me. But Socrates was declared an enemy of the state and forced to either drink poison and die, or recant his teachings and stop them. He chose the former of course. Yes he may have had his circle of students and followers, but being an enemy of the state is no fun. I doubt if that counts as being happy or not. Hard to say. As long as he had inner peace, that's what mattered.

However, none of those you named would have been happy or well adjusted if they had grown up in 1980s California, which was full of pretentiousness, fakeness, and cliquishness and other horrible traits I can't put into words. Keep that in mind.

I never use the word "socially awkward". Only judgmental conformists use that word. Not me. That's a shaming tactic. Just because someone isn't fake and doesn't act like an airhead doesn't make them socially awkward. Ask anyone who went to CA high school in the 80's. Everyone has baggage from that era. Anyone who was down to earth and normal and authentic would be seen as socially awkward there for no reason.

I'm not too unintelligent to understand Kant. He's not my cup of tea. No one quotes him. He has no brilliant quotes to quote from. You keep judging people. Why not judge yourself? Why don't I say that you are too unintelligent to understand me? Lol

Conspiracy theories or conspiracy facts rather, are not crazy. Many are true and well proven. You've done no research on that obviously. Sorry if you are too unintelligent to understand conspiracies. Almost all US Presidents between George Washington and JFK have admitted that conspiracies and a deep state cabal run America. I posted their quotes many times. That's just one of many proofs. If most US Presidents see the conspiracy, they would be in the know wouldn't they? lol. DUH!

There is no emoji by which I can successfully express the amount of eye rolling you just induced, sufficed to say my eyes nearly escaped my skull. Socially awkward people aren't bad people, they just lack social skills and there's nothing wrong with that. You are beyond that though, you're some top tier cringe wuth zero insight. I'm very well aware of my flaws, and that I'm just some guy. You are the one running around claiming you're some great thinker while spouting nonsense that is easy for everyone else to see through

I never speak nonsense. You saying so is your opinion. You got no evidence or logical arguments to support your wild thesis about me. In contrast I gave 9 solid logical arguments and proofs above why I am considered a great intellectual who thinks outside the box. Many people say so, many who are smarter than you. I'm not lying. Sorry if you disagree. But you got no basis. I challenge you to prove me wrong with a list of logical arguments. If you can't, then you lose the debate. Sorry. I'm not being arrogant or delusional. Just logical. Spock or Data would not agree with you either, if they saw the list of 9 logical arguments and proofs I posted above. Read them over again. I'm sorry if you hate facts and logic and truth. I'm not a BSer. Ask all my friends. I'm the last person on Earth who would BS you. If you don't like me it's your problem, not mine. Good conservative people tend to like me, because they judge on good character and authenticity. People who judge on those criteria usually like me and see a kindred spirit in me. I'm sorry you don't. You sound hateful like you want to argue with me for no reason, like a contrarian or devil's advocate. You got no logical reason to dislike me. So the problem must be you? You don't sound objective and open minded that's for sure.

I didn't say anything false or illogical. If your eyes are rolling for no reason, it's your problem, not mine. Sorry.

Maybe you don't like me. But some do. I'll bet if I was on the Jay Leno Show, I could say some funny things that would make people like me. A socially awkward person cannot do that.

What's your definition of social awkwardness? I'll bet you have none. You just use the term to shame anyone you don't like, like crazy American women do. YOU are the one that's delusional, yet you don't realize it. Sorry bud. Your opinions are NOT facts, just your asshole opinions. Mine are at least backed up with logic and reason and evidences, so my opinions are more informed than yours it seems. Not bragging. Just my objective unbiased opinion.

Why don't we chat and record it and put it on YouTube and ask everyone to vote on who sounds more socially awkward, you or me? lol. A socially awkward person is not articulate and assertive like me. All my claims are based on good reasons, yours are not. How are you any better than me? You just hate for the sake of hating. I can do that too. That's not likable to good people you know?