Trump is a Nationalist

[Cornfed]

The thing about Trump is not so much the policies he has promised, which we know are a joke, but the ideas he is promoting. Here he is promoting the N word over globalism. It will be up to us to get off our butts and follow up on these ideas.

[Neo]

Everyone seems to think he is talking about white nationalist. He is just talking about the same stuff he always was: Make America Great Again. That is, the USA comes first. That's what he means by nationalism. He isn't talking about race.

[Cornfed]

Everyone seems to think he is talking about white nationalist. He is just talking about the same stuff he always was: Make America Great Again. That is, the USA comes first. That's what he means by nationalism. He isn't talking about race.

Yeah, well, we'll see.

[Neo]

Everyone seems to think he is talking about white nationalist. He is just talking about the same stuff he always was: Make America Great Again. That is, the USA comes first. That's what he means by nationalism. He isn't talking about race.

Yeah, well, we'll see.

Do you think he just omitted the word "white" before "nationalist" but it was a clue?

[fschmidt]

Trump is just a sociopath. When he talks to nationalists, he is a nationalist. If he talked to penguins, he would be a penguin. But in the end he just does whatever feeds his ego the most.

[Cornfed]

Trump is just a sociopath. When he talks to nationalists, he is a nationalist. If he talked to penguins, he would be a penguin. But in the end he just does whatever feeds his ego the most.

But it is good what he is saying. That's the point.

[fschmidt]

But it is good what he is saying. That's the point.

Talk is cheap. In this case, it may even have negative value since Trump distracts the Right from doing the right thing. Varg is right in saying that the Right should forget politics and focus building themselves up as people, families, and small communities.

[Cornfed]

But it is good what he is saying. That's the point.

Talk is cheap.

Not at this time. Talk is exactly what we need at this point.

[Nailer]

The question is, what do people on the right actually want? No one in the right has a realistic plan of what we actually want to do, because we are so used to not having any power.

American blacks don't have any realistic alternative to America, and are in direct competition with Mexicans for jobs and turf. It might make sense for them to join the right. Mexicans and other minorities who are just here for money can go back home at any time, but blacks are pretty well committed. So they should be American nationalists, and "white nationalism" is not really a good or viable idea.

At the same time, claiming that every other ethnic group that is leeching off the U.S. is American is not correct. Americans are white western European and some blacks, since their history here goes back hundreds of years. The line is arbitrary, but you must draw it somewhere. Chinese people can never be America. Russian people can never be America. (Sorry Winston.)

I don't really care about much at this point, because our own women are so horrible, and even if we start now it will take too long for new women to be raised properly. I don't think the U.S. is worth fighting for. Why should I care about making any effort to protect safety of these hoes that have treated me like dog shit my whole life, when I have other white women in another country who are good to me? All this tradcon stuff says to me is "No, don't give up, we can still give you a nice life of solitude making child support payments while your American wife f***s other men". Why would I care? It's over and I'm done.

[Cornfed]

The question is, what do people on the right actually want? done.

The obvious first steps would be getting the Jews out of power followed by removing the immigrants and then taking womens rights away. Then getting rid of blacks by some means and cutting the boomers off at the knees.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

American blacks don't have any realistic alternative to America, and are in direct competition with Mexicans for jobs and turf. It might make sense for them to join the right. Mexicans and other minorities who are just here for money can go back home at any time, but blacks are pretty well committed. So they should be American nationalists, and "white nationalism" is not really a good or viable idea.

Yes and no. Almost anywhere in the world is better for middle class and above American blacks than America. I've known this for decades, but with the advent of YouTube the word is spreading fast. Blacks of means are moving to Europe, Asia, the Caribbean, Africa, etc. There is even an enclave of black Americans here in UAE, both in Dubai and in Abu Dhabi. Who knew?

For the black underclass, they have neither the means nor the inclination to leave America so you're correct there. There has also been great headway made by Trump who was already supported at surprising levels by black men and his increase of support among black voters has been one of his greatest political achievements. Black women tend to not support him, but he has made small increases with them too.

The term nationalist is a bit misused here. I prefer the term NATIVIST which has less historical stigma than nationalist, but both terms could apply to me to some extent. However, I am vehemently against Americans of the leftist persuasion regardless of their demographic. The civil war that is coming will pit the left against the right and both sides have representatives from all groups.

[Cornfed]

American blacks don't have any realistic alternative to America, and are in direct competition with Mexicans for jobs and turf. It might make sense for them to join the right. Mexicans and other minorities who are just here for money can go back home at any time, but blacks are pretty well committed. So they should be American nationalists, and "white nationalism" is not really a good or viable idea.

Yes and no. Almost anywhere in the world is better for middle class and above American blacks than America.

Except they are reliant on American apeffirmative action gibs to become middle class in the first place.

[tom]

At the Polish Law for Development Forum George Friedman talks about the necessity of nationalism.

[Nailer]

I see a lot of parallels between what happened to the black community decades ago and what is happening to white middle class America more recently. I think the blacks were like a pilot program

1. Remove the negative consequences of bad female behavior. (Welfare, removal of social shaming, affirmative action). Most womens' jobs are just a SWPL version of welfare.

2. Productivity and morality in men are no longer valued by women. Now women crave "bad boys" since they can pass the cost of their bad decisions off onto the state or corporation. Or just abort their unwanted children.

3. The women get fat and the men become tough / gangster and stop being productive. Violence increases.

Welfare is the worst thing that ever happened to the black community. Eliminating welfare, forcing black women to be appealing to black men, and bringing back a lot of manufactiring jobs would be very good for black men. What Trump offers black men is the promise of dignity and respect.

[Cornfed]

Welfare is the worst thing that ever happened to the black community.

As well as welfare, desegregation was horribly bad for the black community. That combined with apefirmattive action meant that all blacks who could function at a human level could have a good life in white communities, so most of them immediately did so. Therefore, in accordance with the Pareto Principle (Google it) black areas lost almost all of their productive potential. Also there was no-one for the majority of ape-like blacks to aspire to be or be kept in line by. White libtards and hand-rubbing Jews have really f***ed over blacks, although historically speaking it is a moot point since blacks have to go anyway.