Americans that come across as friendly are usually two-faced.

[Mercury]

I am sure it's happened a lot. You meet someone who comes across as friendly. But then they turn around and get you in trouble and cause a damaging altercation. You have experienced a two-faced person. Well, believe it or not, Americans that come across initially as friendly and sociable are actually two-faced.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I am sure it's happened a lot. You meet someone who comes across as friendly. But then they turn around and get you in trouble and cause a damaging altercation. You have experienced a two-faced person. Well, believe it or not, Americans that come across initially as friendly and sociable are actually two-faced.

Maybe this is just happening to you.

[Mercury]

I am sure it's happened a lot. You meet someone who comes across as friendly. But then they turn around and get you in trouble and cause a damaging altercation. You have experienced a two-faced person. Well, believe it or not, Americans that come across initially as friendly and sociable are actually two-faced.

Maybe this is just happening to you.

Nope. It happens to all guys especially in the United States.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I am sure it's happened a lot. You meet someone who comes across as friendly. But then they turn around and get you in trouble and cause a damaging altercation. You have experienced a two-faced person. Well, believe it or not, Americans that come across initially as friendly and sociable are actually two-faced.

Maybe this is just happening to you.

Nope. It happens to all guys especially in the United States.

Nothing like that has happened to me. I REALLY do think it is just you and I'm not sure what that's about.

[HappyGuy]

@Contrarian Expatriate
He means when people in America are trying to screw you they often act like your best friend. It probably happens to him more than others but it happens to everyone with salesmen and other scam artists. There are a lot of women in America who live to screw over as many men as they can and see what they can get away with so if a woman who you just met is being too nice there's a good chance she doesn't like you and she's trying to set you up. If a woman tries to pull that act it's important to see through it and call her out on being phony and take the initiative before they find a way to try to get you in trouble.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

@Contrarian Expatriate
He means when people in America are trying to screw you they often act like your best friend. It probably happens to him more than others but it happens to everyone with salesmen and other scam artists. There are a lot of women in America who live to screw over as many men as they can and see what they can get away with so if a woman who you just met is being too nice there's a good chance she doesn't like you and she's trying to set you up. If a woman tries to pull that act it's important to see through it and call her out on being phony and take the initiative before they find a way to try to get you in trouble.

No, I think it is just him. And anyone with a modicum of emotional intelligence will know that outward friendliness does not mean people are trustworthy. Trust is developed over time. So if he is being screwed over by people who behave as if they are his friends, it is just him.

[HappyGuy]

This thread up to this point should be about 10 sentences. Do you have to quote every response to a response? It needlessly makes your back and forth arguments a chore to read. What is your problem exactly with his claim because we already know mercury has mental issues and exaggerates but this is not one of his crazier observations. The two faced people he describes exist and you see them a lot working at casual dining restaurants, they are phony to the core and they resent having to serve people. They'd love to pull something underhanded on you or start an altercation over your lifestyle but they don't because they don't view you as an easy target like they do Mercury. But they're around and that is what's important not whether you get into those same situations. I agree it was a stupid premise because he didn't give us any examples and it should of been posted in Rants or some other section not General Discussions but Mercury like DanC only thinks about himself much like the women who kick him out of bars in humiliating ways.

[Yohan]

.....we already know mercury has mental issues and exaggerates but this is not one of his crazy observations. The two faced people he describes exist ...

It is true that Mercury exaggerates all and everything, but what he says makes sometimes sense, and also happened to me, and not only with people from the USA and not only with women.

For example, a guy from Europe I considered as friendly and open-minded (I knew him personally - not an internet-friend) was asking me for some advice as he had problems with his parents and also with his girlfriend - and when I told him what I would do in his situation, he became unfriendly, angry, was calling me an idiot etc. - so I told him, don't ask me again and if you need some advice again ask somebody else, forget me.

Another example a long time ago I remember:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22571&start=15
This guy, Patrick Shaw from UK was also such a typ of a person who fits the description explained by Mercury.
It made me to join Happier Abroad in 2014 and to post my first comment in this forum.

Yes, it happened to me too, but not so many times. A few times, even had a financial loss because I trusted so-called friends too much.

The best response is no further discussion and walk away - forget about such people, and do it as soon as you can.

[Winston]

CE,
Why are you trying so hard to shame him and tell him that only he experiences two faced Americans? I thought we all agreed long ago that Americans are like that. They have a fake mask on the outside and hide their true selves. That's an obvious truth we all saw through long ago. No one disputes that. Why are you telling Mercury that he's the only one that experiences that? We all have. Isn't that dishonest?

American requires you to act positive and optimistic and enthusiastic all the time, so of course many people are gonna create a fake outward mask that they use in public with others. No surprise there. In other countries, people show you their true face, like in Russia. They don't like to show you a fake face.

But talking behind your back is something common everywhere. People are judgemental, especially in first world countries. Not as much so in SE Asia. So that's what judgmental people do. They dislike something about you and talk about it behind your back. Nothing new there. People have been doing that for thousands of years. As long as you follow your heart and soul and be true to yourself, and don't lie, cheat or steal, and treat others with respect, courtesy and fairness, then you are a decent guy and nothing else matters.

[Mercury]

No, I think it is just him. And anyone with a modicum of emotional intelligence will know that outward friendliness does not mean people are trustworthy. Trust is developed over time. So if he is being screwed over by people who behave as if they are his friends, it is just him.

One thing I hate is when people like you make like only Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, the world's worst serial rapists/killers, would have trouble making friends with Americans. Like in other words, any man who fails to get a date with a college cheerleader in America shall be grounds for use of maximum lethal force and immediate Martial law exactly like what happened in Ferguson, Missouri with the police shooting death of Michael Brown.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

No, I think it is just him. And anyone with a modicum of emotional intelligence will know that outward friendliness does not mean people are trustworthy. Trust is developed over time. So if he is being screwed over by people who behave as if they are his friends, it is just him.

One thing I hate is when people like you make like only Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, the world's worst serial rapists/killers, would have trouble making friends with Americans. Like in other words, any man who fails to get a date with a college cheerleader in America shall be grounds for use of maximum lethal force and immediate Martial law exactly like what happened in Ferguson, Missouri with the police shooting death of Michael Brown.

People are stabbing you in the back because you have demented opinions like this. That is why you have trouble socializing. So again, it’s really just you.

[suprmon]

I am sure it's happened a lot. You meet someone who comes across as friendly. But then they turn around and get you in trouble and cause a damaging altercation. You have experienced a two-faced person. Well, believe it or not, Americans that come across initially as friendly and sociable are actually two-faced.

Maybe this is just happening to you.

Nope. It happens to all guys especially in the United States.

Nothing like that has happened to me. I REALLY do think it is just you and I'm not sure what that's about.

Everyone doesn't think like you! The reason you see like that is because like the typical psychopathic extrovert you probably are is that you refuse to go outside your own limited box! So stop making judgements about others whose shoes you don't know anything about!

[Neo]

Oftentimes people will disappoint you (you in general, no one in particular). Many people put their own desires first and don't consider other people. Still others are outright malicious and cruel, and they tell lies (and you can't believe anything they say regarding relationships, pride or personal glory).

I don't even expect much from people anymore. I don't look for validation in friendship or camaraderie of any kind. I know that there is an argument for no reason, or because of some easily provoked jealousy, laying just around the corner. So I don't even bother. Most times I just keep my mouth shut and say as little as possible.

I would even go so far as to say that I do not wish to interact with most people in a meaningful way. I don't hate people, I love to help people. I avoid people because I don't want to get burned. And unsurprisingly, many people will burn another person for absolutely no reason at all. So I just have learned to keep my distance from most people.

This is a fundamental problem with humanity. Many people are cruel, deceptive and disrespectful. The goal is to not be like them and to recognize who they are so that we can avoid them and screen them out. Because if it's not a peaceful person who is respectful towards me, I find it's best to avoid them.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I am sure it's happened a lot. You meet someone who comes across as friendly. But then they turn around and get you in trouble and cause a damaging altercation. You have experienced a two-faced person. Well, believe it or not, Americans that come across initially as friendly and sociable are actually two-faced.

Maybe this is just happening to you.

Nope. It happens to all guys especially in the United States.

Nothing like that has happened to me. I REALLY do think it is just you and I'm not sure what that's about.

Everyone doesn't think like you! The reason you see like that is because like the typical psychopathic extrovert you probably are is that you refuse to go outside your own limited box! So stop making judgements about others whose shoes you don't know anything about!

No I think it's just him.....

[Mercury]

No, I think it is just him. And anyone with a modicum of emotional intelligence will know that outward friendliness does not mean people are trustworthy. Trust is developed over time. So if he is being screwed over by people who behave as if they are his friends, it is just him.

One thing I hate is when people like you make like only Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, the world's worst serial rapists/killers, would have trouble making friends with Americans. Like in other words, any man who fails to get a date with a college cheerleader in America shall be grounds for use of maximum lethal force and immediate Martial law exactly like what happened in Ferguson, Missouri with the police shooting death of Michael Brown.

People are stabbing you in the back because you're a psychopath serial rapist and a sex killer. That is why you have trouble socializing. So again, it’s really just you. In fact, I think I'm going to call the FBI and Homeland Security and tell them to send the military after you. And I shall enjoy watching news of you going up in a huge ball of fire.

Typical American. A man gets rejected by a cheerleader = Automatic 50-star wanted level for the man.