PAG/Culture Whiz is running Romance Tours? LOL WTF?!

[Winston]

@StanfordGuy

PAG,
Are you running romance tours? See here:

https://culturewhiz.org/experiences/ale ... gency-tour

Wtf? You can't just take guys to meet girls randomly on the street. Where do these girls come from? An agency? You gotta have some connections with matchmakers or agencies in Ukraine to do this kind of stuff. Does Aleksandra have such connections? If so with which agencies? If a guy is gonna pay $500 for a romance tour, he should at least know which agencies or matchmakers you're contracting with. Don't you gotta establish credibility first? You can't just put up a page like that and expect to get clients. Come on. lol. It's not that easy, otherwise everyone would do it. At least $500 is a lot cheaper than the $5000 for Dream Connections. lol

https://culturewhiz.org/experiences/ale ... gency-tour

Are you curious about finding life partner in Ukraine? The Kiev Singles Tour offers you the unique opportunity to visit one of the most historic cities in all of the former Soviet Union, while at the same time meet thousands of beautiful Ukrainian women. Our Kiev Singles Tours provide you with an extremely effective means to meet as many women as possible so you can find that special one.

We will implement several different vehicles for you to meet the thousands of women on our vast database including three large Social gatherings, New Applicant Interviews and, of course, our constant One-on-One Introductions via our Kiev office, and the thousands of profiles on file there.

Your Kiev tour will consist of countless meetings and introductions with the women of Kiev and the Ukraine. Although Kiev is a city of over 3 million people, it has a much smaller feel to it. As a matter of fact, every weekend the main street, Khreshchatik , is closed to traffic, music is piped in, as well as performed live, and a street fair is held.

Please keep in mind that your Kiev tour is designed so that all you have to concern yourself with is meeting as many women as possible through the many different vehicles provided for you.

What's included:

Socials - One social for every city (All one city tours include 2 socials. Two city tours will include two Socials (one each city;) and three city tours will include three Socials etc.) Socials include unlimited contacts/introductions, personal interpreters hors d'oeuvres, refreshments, champagne.

1. Hotel accommodations, including free daily breakfast and other amenities.
2. Transport from airport, hotel, & all events including Socials where necessary.
3. One three-hour guided tour of the first city.
4. Hotel area and orientation walking tours of all cities.

About your host

Alexandra Raduga (AlexandraRaduga)

Alexandra Raduga was born and raised in Kiev, Ukraine. A regular contributor to Culture Whiz since its very beginning, Alexandra quickly fell in love with the pace and creativity of the start-up world and, soon after, became the company’s co-founder and first Managing Editor. Now, as the platform’s Social Media Director, Alexandra oversees social strategy across the world.

$495.00 per person

[StanfordGuy]

Lol, why do they need matchmakers or agencies when social media and work portals are free? It's easy to throw a social party! Buy some drinks and recruit a couple of hosts to keep people chatting and having fun It seems the people you hang out with are dorks!

[Winston]

If that's so PAG, then you can't call it a romance tour. Come on! A romance tour is for men serious about marriage. They will want results and want to meet MARRIAGE MINDED WOMEN or GIRLS! You know that. Come on. What you describe is a night out on the town clubbing! So you invite a few girls to hang out with a client for $500 and call that a romance tour? WTF? Isn't that deceptive advertising? Do you even know what a romance tour is? How many girls will show up for $500? The webpage doesn't say. If you're serious you gotta be specific. What about socials? Where are the ladies profiles? Have these girls been vetted? Does anyone know them? Are they screened? Are they random girls at nightclubs? If so, you can't call that a romance tour. That's merely a night out on the town or a clubbing tour! Not worth $500. Come on man. Get real. This is ridiculous. lol

[StanfordGuy]

It's a single tour / experience. You get to meet some sweet single ladies, and if you're halfway good, you can get a date / marriage. What "loveme" is discussing is a marketplace like Ebay! Highly unrealistic nonsense to someone who is not on the autism spectrum. How much do you think it cost to go to high-end club with table service?

[Winston]

It's a single tour / experience. You get to meet some sweet single ladies, and if you're halfway good, you can get a date / marriage. What "loveme" is discussing is a marketplace like Ebay! Highly unrealistic nonsense to someone who is not on the autism spectrum. How much do you think it cost to go to high-end club with table service?

How many ladies? Are they scammers? Have they been vetted? Are they party girls? Why not call it a clubbing tour? Why a romance tour? Isn't that deceptive?

Love me is very professional with quality staff and agencies and well established. Not some random clubbing tour with random people. Come on. There's no comparison. They have many testimonials too and have been around for a long time.

[StanfordGuy]

I'm guessing the numbers of ladies depend on how many guys are going. All these other things don't matter. Your success is up to you. High-quality women do not want to be auction items. This eliminates 99 percent of the garbage associated with Russian marriage sites. The majority of women in these ex communist countries are traditional. Meaning they are not looking for boyfriends, but rather potential husbands.

[Winston]

@Spencer why don't you go on PAG's romance tour? lol. What do you think?

What about you @Contrarian Expatriate? Wouldn't you love to go on a romance tour for only $500? lol

@Yohan what do you think?

[Winston]

PAG are there any testimonials on your site from clients of these romance tours? Who hosts them? Alexandra? How long does the tour last? What type of hotel or accommodation do you get? Do you get a coach? Is it all clubbing only? What if the guy isn't a clubber or is an introvert?

[Contrarian Expatriate]

@Spencer why don't you go on PAG's romance tour? lol. What do you think?

What about you @Contrarian Expatriate? Wouldn't you love to go on a romance tour for only $500? lol

@Yohan what do you think?

Knowing what I know about being in Ukraine, there is only one girl in the photos who I would consider at all attractive (the girl in the second photo from the top dressed in all white on the right). The rest are 5s and below who appear to be divorced mothers.

None of these girls would be of interest to me and my guess is that they are recruited and paid to be there.

Finally, Ukrainian women of this low caliber might appeal to washed up older guys like @Shemp who is too repulsive to have a chance with any younger, more attractive women there. In fact, @Shemp might just be the perfect client for PAG's romance tour being that he had to resort to "de facto" marrying a former street prostitute because that is all who would have him. Some time ago he blew his stack at my suggestion that he direct-approach young hot girls in public in the search for new sugar babies. That told me the ship has long ago sailed with him on that regard so this "tour" could be an alternative for men of his hopelessly low sexual market value.

I'll send him a PM and to pitch the idea...... Could serve to lighten his horrible personality that has gone nothing but straight down over the past few years.

But have PAG charge Shemp $5000 or more because @Shemp gets angry at paying too little when he feels better about himself for grossly overpaying. If you remember his childish tantrum when I pointed out that he grossly overpaid for an immigration attorney over there. He was LIVID that I made him look like the moron he is for paying so much more. I guess Google is still too new concept for guys his age. I'm not going to repeat what he called me when he learned just how little I was paying sugar babies per month!

[Shemp]

Knowing what I know about being in Ukraine, there is only one girl in the photos who I would consider at all attractive...The rest are 5s and below who appear to be divorced mothers.

Pitiful how CE tries so desperately to impress people here. But that's what happens when you work long 30 years as a flunky bureaucrat, chasing that pension like a poor donkey chasing a carrot on a stick. Once you finally get that damned pension, then you have to justify to yourself having wasted your best years sitting in some dull office, and that's where the desperate need to show off comes from. The person he's really trying to convince that he's a winner is himself. As for the rest of us, the more he opens his mouth, the more a fool he appears in our eyes.

As someone who knows Ukraine much better than CE, those girls are not 5's, whether in the sense of below average for their age or below average of girls in the prime 18-25 age bracket. You can walk down Sagaydachnovo pedestrian street (near Kontraktova Ploshchad) on a summer Saturday night to get an idea of what average Kyiv girls look like, though even those girls are above average, since the fatties and uglies stay home. Or hang around the University. I'm not going to say what HB ranking PAG's girls are because I don't do numeric rankings, but they are certainly not below average in looks for Kyiv.

Regarding the Ukrainian visa story, the thread is still here if someone wants to see another example of CE making a fool of himself. Yes, CE can use google..Problem is, he can't distinguish shit from shinola and ends up being bamboozled by all the crap advice out there. He doesn't understand that, just because something is on the internet, doesn't mean it's true. Poor fool at one point was talking about $100K investment to get permanent residency as if that were an advantage. I had to point out that permanent residency means liable for taxes, plus there's the risk of losing the $100K investment, plus all sorts of hassles maintaining the investment. CE thought he would impress everyone here (read my paragraph above about why he is so desperate to impress) by throwing around the idea of investing $100K upfront when he could get 40 years of temporary residency at the price of $2500/year, so much less risk, so much less long term commitment. Furthermore, I was clear that $2500/year was a full service price and there are cheaper options. In particular, there's the true (versus scam) volunteer option for under $1000/year, though you would have to teach English to poor children or something like that fir a few hours a week to justify being a volunteer. And yet he accuses me of throwing money around wastefully!

As for my girlfriend, CE just lowers himself by resorting to slandering her as a street walker. She's an escort, that's true, but outcall only, long sessions only, foreign businessman only, plus she exercises "face control" and doesn't take just anyone. I feel privileged to meet someone like her, who I consider my equal in many ways. Prostitution comes in many forms. Some beautiful young women sell sex, some desperate men with no other options sell their labor as professional ass-kissers and paper pushers, 30 years of such flunky labor in the case of CE before he finally got his pension.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Oh I see angry old fart @Shemp responded! He's too stupid to realize I have him on ignore because his angry retorts are usually just rants of verbal diarrhea. Just let him continue swatting at the figurative "dangle-toy" just like that overmatched and frustrated little kitten.

Can someone suggest some hobbies for the old fart? I hate to see someone his age putting so much effort into responding to me as if it is the highlight of his day.

I hope that prostitute he lives with didn't give him some sexually transmitted disease. Left untreated, people can develop the feeble mindedness and overall crankiness, both of which he has been showing for awhile now.

Someone let him know that I'd pay for him to get checked out if he needs the money. That prostitute likely bleeds him financially dry and I definitely have a higher net worth than his because of his foolish penchant for grossly overpaying for everything from prostitutes to legal services for residency permits. I can't fix the stupid in him, but I can give him some sorely needed financial help since he's not on my level wealth-wise.

[Spencer]

@Spencer why don't you go on PAG's romance tour? lol. What do you think?

What about you @Contrarian Expatriate? Wouldn't you love to go on a romance tour for only $500? lol

@Yohan what do you think?

Wiseton i want go there but now no travel money and virus make travel problems......someday after time if open flying and save money please stanfordguy also please please meet with me there if i pay drink food even extra for you important time so can have master guideman consulting and tell what need prepare before meet tour guide and ladys i am awkward shy for hi status whitegirl and ok i meet normal look higher age if she look quality for me please no lo skank prostitute and is translate service or machine can use for romantic talkings please can you do stanfordguy and what schedules for you 2020

[hypermak]

Oh I see angry old fart @Shemp responded! He's too stupid to realize I have him on ignore because his angry retorts are usually just rants of verbal diarrhea. Just let him continue swatting at the figurative "dangle-toy" just like that overmatched and frustrated little kitten.

Can someone suggest some hobbies for the old fart? I hate to see someone his age putting so much effort into responding to me as if it is the highlight of his day.

I hope that prostitute he lives with didn't give him some sexually transmitted disease. Left untreated, people can develop the feeble mindedness and overall crankiness, both of which he has been showing for awhile now.

Someone let him know that I'd pay for him to get checked out if he needs the money. That prostitute likely bleeds him financially dry and I definitely have a higher net worth than his because of his foolish penchant for grossly overpaying for everything from prostitutes to legal services for residency permits. I can't fix the stupid in him, but I can give him some sorely needed financial help since he's not on my level wealth-wise.

I find these kinds of exchanges really pathetic. It's the reason why I am not posting anything anymore. @Winston are you sure this is the quality of discussion you want to achieve in here? Self-referential trolls like @StanfordGuy and his various alias accounts talking to each other, hoping to be entertaining? Schizoid retirees on meds like @Contrarian Expatriate using every chance to self-inflate like fart baloons?

[Spencer]

Oh I see angry old fart @Shemp responded! He's too stupid to realize I have him on ignore because his angry retorts are usually just rants of verbal diarrhea. Just let him continue swatting at the figurative "dangle-toy" just like that overmatched and frustrated little kitten.

Can someone suggest some hobbies for the old fart? I hate to see someone his age putting so much effort into responding to me as if it is the highlight of his day.

I hope that prostitute he lives with didn't give him some sexually transmitted disease. Left untreated, people can develop the feeble mindedness and overall crankiness, both of which he has been showing for awhile now.

Someone let him know that I'd pay for him to get checked out if he needs the money. That prostitute likely bleeds him financially dry and I definitely have a higher net worth than his because of his foolish penchant for grossly overpaying for everything from prostitutes to legal services for residency permits. I can't fix the stupid in him, but I can give him some sorely needed financial help since he's not on my level wealth-wise.

I find these kinds of exchanges really pathetic. It's the reason why I am not posting anything anymore. @Winston are you sure this is the quality of discussion you want to achieve in here? Self-referential trolls like @StanfordGuy and his various alias accounts talking to each other, hoping to be entertaining? Schizoid retirees on meds like @Contrarian Expatriate using every chance to self-inflate like fart baloons?

Yes pduende, pretend leave then when so regret so miss wiseton recarnate to another expat live manila and pretend meet hypermak and talk how great he is so drink bile from his chef asshole...but if marcos says will go but come back later is truth enough to use same name marcoszetola not pretend like you...so go go go now stop girl drama just go but wiseton know you come back again in months because you need make dramas on happy aboard and kiss ass hypermak/pduende.....your goodbye again nobody care no need say it just go and next time when you want back be truther post with pduende name admit want back to happy aboard so applogize to wiseton and never dare hurt europe dream again with bad words say he will fail never say again and now go away from here stay away

[hypermak]

Yes pduende, pretend leave then when so regret so miss wiseton recarnate to another expat live manila and pretend meet hypermak and talk how great he is so drink bile from his chef asshole...but if marcos says will go but come back later is truth enough to use same name marcoszetola not pretend like you...so go go go now stop girl drama just go but wiseton know you come back again in months because you need make dramas on happy aboard and kiss ass hypermak/pduende.....your goodbye again nobody care no need say it just go and next time when you want back be truther post with pduende name admit want back to happy aboard so applogize to wiseton and never dare hurt europe dream again with bad words say he will fail never say again and now go away from here stay away

Exactly my point