How will the Progressive/SJW Era End?

[ArchibaultNew]

Hey guys,

One thing I have noticed is that throughout history there's these Eras where most the mainstream(newspapers, novels, television, films) adopts certain values. For instance, in the UK there was the "Victorian Era" then it moved to the "Modernist Era." At some point or another a new Era ushers in.

For instance, during the Puritan Era in Britain they banned theaters, holidays and punish dissenters of Puritan values. Some Brits tried to live up to the "Puritan standards." However, at some point the backlash took over and they reinstated the King and kicked out the Puritans from the country. A new Era kicked in called the "Restoration Age" with completely different values and worldview.

Brits did not try to live up to the Puritan standards; they thought the standards were "ridiculous." After the Puritans where expelled, Brits moved on from Puritan ideals. Ironically, Shakesphere, who is hailed as one of the greatest writers of the English language, made fun of the Puritans. His quote, "Some men are born great, Some men become great and some men have greatness thrust upon them." Is actually a diss towards Malvolio a Puritan in the play of Twelfth Night. The Characters of Twelfth Night thought Malvolio was a fool who hated fun. So they mocked him and made fun of him.

[WanderingProtagonist]

Hey guys,

One thing I have noticed is that throughout history there's these Eras where most the mainstream(newspapers, novels, television, films) adopts certain values. For instance, in the UK there was the "Victorian Era" then it moved to the "Modernist Era." At some point or another a new Era ushers in.

For instance, during the Puritan Era in Britain they banned theaters, holidays and punish dissenters of Puritan values. Some Brits tried to live up to the "Puritan standards." However, at some point the backlash took over and they reinstated the King and kicked out the Puritans from the country. A new Era kicked in called the "Restoration Age" with completely different values and worldview.

Brits did not try to live up to the Puritan standards; they thought the standards were "ridiculous." After the Puritans where expelled, Brits moved on from Puritan ideals. Ironically, Shakesphere, who is hailed as one of the greatest writers of the English language, made fun of the Puritans. His quote, "Some men are born great, Some men become great and some men have greatness thrust upon them." Is actually a diss towards Malvolio a Puritan in the play of Twelfth Night. The Characters of Twelfth Night thought Malvolio was a fool who hated fun. So they mocked him and made fun of him.

Progressive era may come to an end once their leaders get ousted. But in the U.S. I think some states will still try to maintain those ideologies no matter what. Take California for example, they don't seem interested in changing. Some parents have fought the school systems and got a few woke board members fired for forcing critical race theory on their kids. And of course the militant LBTGQ people are also next in line.

So while there will be people resenting, it may go away in some states but not all of them. Enough people would have to rise against the SJW syndicate and stop acting like bitches just because they get called a phobe or a racist. Seems like that's been their choice of weapon ever since. Leftist use that ammo whenever they want to force their enemies to bend the knee and cuck. It's like how you can still criticize the shit out of whites excluding the LBTGQ ones who are protected. But you can't criticize black people at all regardless if they are LBGTQ.

What I believe is that the SJW era will carry on where ever leftist reside. They won't give it up as long as they know it gives them power to ruin shit that people use to enjoy. A Cambodian guy I know said, in the next few years. Texas will turn Blue again because it use to be a Blue state before. But they allowed too many Californians to move in and progressive businesses too. Now you have Texans complaining about the rising cost of living. The problem is people can't control who moves into their state, the GOV would have to implement laws that work like they do if you were to visit another country.

That's the only way they can determine who moves into their state and who can't. The thing is being loyal to any state is f***ing stupid. Republicans try to talk shit like they care about their people, but in the end all they care about is money just like the democrats.Therefore they will intentionally let wealthy leftist corporations move right into their state knowing that it's going to hurt the people already living there. But as long as there's something in it for them? Republicans don't' care no more than the Democrats. Any of these assholes can be bought off with progressiveness.

[Outcast9428]

By the standards of today, Shakespeare would be considered a far right, radical religious puritan. His plays regularly feature arranges marriages in a positive way. In several plays of his, people attempting adultery are mercilessly humiliated in his plays. Especially in the "The Merry Wives of Windsor" where a man attempting to seduce another man's wife is tricked into getting into a barrel that is subsequently thrown into the river, then later tricked into wearing women's clothing while running around the village, and at the end, the whole village gets together, mocks, and laughs at him. In Much Ado About Nothing, a father arranges for his daughter to marry one of the characters (the two of whom had literally met just two days ago) and after hearing a (false) rumor that his daughter had given her virginity to another man before her wedding night, he slaps her, curses her, has a complete mental breakdown in public, and even tells her he wishes that she would die (even I think that's going too far). The girl is so humiliated that she almost commits suicide. The play doesn't have any message about "expecting virginity from girls is wrong!" the play's villain is simply a trickster who fools everybody into believing that she wasn't chaste.

You have to keep in mind that a "puritan" in the 1500s was very different from what someone thinks of as a Puritan today. The actual issues of substance, like whether its okay to have casual sex, commit adultery, or have kinks/fetishes... Hell even women having a career outside of the home or choosing not to get married. These things were universally opposed in Renaissance Europe by over 90% of the population. This kind of stuff wasn't even a discussion back then, you were assumed to be against it and if you weren't it would be considered very weird. Especially the sexual issues, you would likely have serious social consequences on you if you told people it was okay to commit adultery or have casual sex (hell even saying premarital sex would've been really controversial back then). Shakespeare in today's day in age would be considered a far right religious radical, but in his time period, he was completely in line with mainstream morals/values.

Imagine looking at Renaissance Europe where losing your virginity before marriage or committing adultery had severe, lifelong, permanent consequences and saying "no this isn't conservative enough, we need to go much further" and you have your 1500s Puritans. Puritans in the 1500s would've been people who focused on complete non-issues. Like you mentioned, advocating for banning holidays or theaters, they wanted to close down all the public bathhouses as well as the brothels, they even told people that having excessive passion for your wife was "spiritual adultery" and claimed that masturbation was a sin. It didn't make any sense, that's why these people had no power and were widely mocked in the 1500s... But in the 1600s, they gained a lot of power and their overall zealotry went well beyond traditional conservative topics. Their obsession with purity made them responsible for the religious wars and witch trials that people often associate with the middle ages but were really much more specific to the 1600s.

The religious zealotry of the 1600s was so brutal and extreme that to this day, people are scared of "going back to the middle ages." This was the era of the 30 years war, where millions of people were slaughtered in a war between Catholics and Protestants in Germany. Almost all of Europe ended up getting involved and the atrocities and crimes against humanity were unlike anything Europe had seen for over 1,000 years. The truth is though, most of the Middle Ages wasn't like that. But the events of the 1600s collectively traumatized the European consciousness on many levels and this resulted in the gradual weakening of religion over the next three centuries because people became very scared of religious zealotry. Even now, people are still scared of that 1600s style religious zealotry returning without realizing that Christian theocracy pretty much worked fine (with occasional dark spots) for centuries before it unquestionably went off the rails.

Believe me, I have no sympathy for the true extremists. In today's society I am probably considered an extremist by many because of where I am situated relative to current day society. To me, true extremists are people willing to commit mass murder for the sake of ideological purity. I strongly believe that those people are the ones responsible for destroying conservatism in Europe. After religious zealotry wasn't popular anymore, the type of people who are inclined to be like that became communists instead. And while the zealots of the 1600s were bad, the communists of the 20th century were so much worse. Lenin alone killed just as many people as the 30 years war did. Communist torture methods are also some of the most depraved, savage, grotesque, sadistic, and utterly inhuman methods of torture I've ever heard about it. Learning about what the Cheka did to people after the Russian revolution, I had to take a break from watching my documentary and I almost never do that.