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I know that a lot of you guys hate America or your respective home country. However, I doubt that many people here hate their respective home country and culture as much as I do. Sure, some of you guys hate American women and speak critically of US culture's toxic and soulless aspects, but I don't think that many of you actually despise your American nationality or are as oikophobic as I am. @kangarunner might come close. He is definitely one of the most consistently anti-American posters on the forum and could even be HappierAbroad's perfect poster boy. But even he doesn't seem to be as much as a misfit in Anglo culture as I am. Likewise, @Winston hates both America and Taiwan for being soulless and miserable, but he doesn't seem to have any problem with his Taiwanese or Asian-American identity. I am going to say that out of all HA members I'm probably by far the most extreme in terms of my hatred of my own birth culture.

I'm from the UK but I utterly detest most if not all aspects of British culture and can't stand the majority of British people. I don't simply dislike the UK for its bad weather, its shitty food or some other triviality like some British expats do; I absolutely despise being British and want nothing to do with my own nationality. I see my having been born into British culture as a curse for which I am extremely resentful. Not only do I dislike the UK for its negative circumstances such as the poor social culture and high cost of living but also more concretely for aesthetic reasons. I hate the country's bland scenery and dystopian cityscapes, the ugly phenotypes of its people and especially its women, the overall vibe of the culture which I perceive as abnormally dark, low-vibrational and obnoxious, and even its language of British English which I just find completely repugnant and dissonant and which I hate hearing to the point where I refuse to watch British television programs. I loathe my own nationality and am totally ashamed of it. I prefer to avoid British people outside of certain family members and a few close friends. Instead I am a fervent Hispanophile and adore everything Hispanic and Mediterranean. I've been this way since I was about 15. I only date Latin American women.

I first experienced life in a Hispanic country at the age of 17 when I spent the summer in Valencia, Spain for intensive language school. Since then I've spent a lot of time in Spain and Latin America and enjoyed two long-term relationships and many friendships with Hispanic people. I really feel at home in Hispanic countries and among Latin American people. I feel a much greater sense of inner peace and cultural belonging.

Whenever I am in a Hispanic country, I completely connect with that culture and cut off virtually all ties with the Anglosphere. I only associate with local people. I avoid all contact with gringos/guiris and especially with British people. I disconnect from all Anglophone media content. Since I speak fluent Spanish and overwhelmingly prefer it to English, I speak nothing but Spanish and can literally go for months speaking nothing but Spanish barring an occasional telephone conversation with my monolingual boomer parents. I feel much better this way. Spanish brings me great joy, fills me with passion for life and moves my soul with its superior aesthetics and higher vibrations. In fact, I absolutely refuse to speak English whenever I'm in a Hispanophone country. I avoid Anglophiles or L2 English speakers who attempt to practice English with me once my native status has been disclosed - something which I usually hide through omission. The sound of British English just disgusts me and pisses me off. I hate speaking it and only put up with it because I need it to communicate with my family and my childhood friend @Pixel--Dude and also more recently to use this forum which really is one of a kind and has captivated my heart. But those things aside, I hate my native language, am crazily in love with Spanish, and am happy to speak it exclusively for months on end. In an ideal world, my family and Pixel--Dude would be Hispanophones too and I wouldn't have to speak that ugly-ass British crap at all.

I actually have some appreciation for North American English. Not only do I find North American English more aesthetically pleasing but I'm also a fan of US pop culture and music from around 1980 to the early 2000s. It's my guilty pleasure and has left a mark in my heart. But that time is long gone and the Anglosphere's pop culture has largely gone to shit and is boring as hell! Now, for me, the Hispanic world is where it's at and I can't stand the contemporary Anglosphere at all and could never stand the UK's culture anyway.

Back to the topic at hand. I always become completely immersed in the host culture. My Latin American friends often say things like they've never once heard me speak English. I once got a phone call from my monolingual boomer parents and answered it in English in the car and my Latina friend become surprised and was like "WTF?". Some of my Latin American friends tell me that they often forget that I'm British and that I don't seem British at all. That always makes me feel proud! I often get mistaken for another nationality. One Spanish escort once confused me for a (light-skinned) Mexican. Lol! She told me that I speak with a Mexican accent. Lmao! Sometimes I just outright lie about my nationality. I tell people that I'm Irish so that I don't have to tell them that I'm from the shitty UK (my mother's side of the family is from Ireland) and suffer embarrassment as a result. It's not like they can catch me out. I speak nothing but Spanish anyway and don't speak with gringo accent. Lol!

As for British females, I don't date them at all. They are completely invisible to me. I don't have anything to do with them. Instead, all of my girlfriends and female friends have been non-British, mostly Latinas. I'm only compatible with foreign females. I literally don't know how to interact with British females. They are something completely different, an alien species. In fact, I'm only willing to date Latinas. I would only ever want to procreate with a beautiful mestiza with Mediterranean and indigenous DNA and that drop of African blood to bring out the ass. I want to improve my lineage. I want Latin American kiddies with a hot mestiza Colombian woman. I don't like the British on a racial level.

Fortunately, in Valencia, I rarely encounter British expats or tourists but, whenever I do, I feel compelled to make a U-turn and avoid them. The British are just too much of a problematic people for my taste. Sure, there are some exceptions, but the majority are socially difficult and neurotic and have all kinds of bizarre cultural oddities that make them unbearable to be around. Not to mention that their language and cringy accents annoy me too much and they also soon find that I'm not really like them at all and usually find me as weird as I find them and the interaction just becomes awkward. I have to avoid British people for the sake of my own sanity and peace of mind. I don't have such problems with people of most other nationalities. The British are just a bizarre outlier population who most other nationalities simply don't understand.

In short, during my extended HA periods, I completely disconnect from everything Anglo and become completely immersed in the host culture, especially linguistically. This is in part due to my extreme hatred of my own nationality and its associated culture.

Has anybody else done the HA thing as immersively as I have or is my case the most extreme?



Post dictum: here's another thread where I talk at length about my hatred of the UK and my oikophobic sentiments: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45399&p=372227&hilit=hatred#p372227
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To a degree, I have done this. In fact I haven't cooked a single dish from my country's native cuisine in my entire life. And I doubt I ever will. The way I eat is like a Filipino; I start the day with warm food, and end it with warm food. I used to eat a lot of rice (never bread) although lately I have cut out the carbs entirely. European people are too fond of bland food and I like mine spicy to the point of convulsions. :lol:
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It's funny.. I feel same way with America too. And Americans find British people fascinating.. I am sorry to say to you.
If your British and try to date American women, they will be more open towards you because your British and have the accent.
British people I have no problems with them although they live a depressing gray sh*thole. After all, they gave us Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Warhammer 40k, Spice Girls, etc.
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February 16th, 2023, 7:20 am
It's funny.. I feel same way with America too. And Americans find British people fascinating.. I am sorry to say to you.
If your British and try to date American women, they will be more open towards you because your British and have the accent.
British people I have no problems with them although they live a depressing gray sh*thole. After all, they gave us Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Warhammer 40k, Spice Girls, etc.
I'm aware that there is a subset of Americans who for some reason admire British culture. An old boss of mine told me that when he went to America the girls loved his accent and frequently flirted with him. I asked my old boss whether American girls even like our Northern variety of English despite us sounding like absolute peasants, to which he replied that they can't tell the difference and think that all "British" accents are enchanting. :lol: Where I'm from, we really do speak like uncultured peasants. We don't speak like James Bond or any other supposed elegantly-spoken British movie character. But yes, I'm well aware of the Anglophilia among some Americans. It is also rampant among certain other nationalities such as Dutch, Swedish, etc., or so I've heard.

I personally can't stand Anglophiles. Their admiration of British culture produces in me a feeling of disgust. Fortunately, I don't encounter Anglophiles too often in the Hispanic world, but whenever I do, they annoy me a lot. No, I don't like the UK. No, I don't know (insert obscure British band) or (insert famous British celebrity). No, I don't want to speak English with you or teach your kids some phrases. Lol! I speak fluent Spanish, prefer Hispanic culture and don't even identify with my birth culture. In fact, I find British culture boring, obnoxious and even offensive. I'd rather them not r*pe me with their Anglophilic nuisance. Lol! So yes, I can't stand Anglophiles and always try to avoid them. I'm nothing like a typical British person anyway and so any attempt to befriend me based on some fetishistic feeling of Anglophilia will only end in disappointment. I'm sure that you also get the same thing with today's annoying K-pop koreaboos! :lol:

I also notice a strange phenomenon on HA in which some member will come along and tell another member "Your country can't be so bad!". Some people have done that to me with regard to the UK and I've seen them do it to others too. A lot of people here are solipsistic. They don't seem to be able to understand that not one country is right for everyone and that we all have our own unique preferences. Some people might like the UK because of X band or Y television show but to me this country is just completely alien to my soul. I once went to an Ayahuasca ceremony with a group of Spaniards who knew about my Anglophobia/oikophobia and they started telling me "You've gotta be proud of your own country and learn to love it!". Why do I? If I don't like British culture then I simply don't like it and there's nothing I can do about it. I can't determine how I feel nor can I arbitrarily change my likes and dislikes. You can't change how the soul feels.

Even my Peruvian ex-girlfriend didn't like British people. She thought that they are cold, unfriendly, weird and barbaric and that I was an exception, not like a gringo at all and much more like a Latin American man in terms of my psychological constitution and passionate affection. I told her about how much of a misfit I was in the UK and suffered from depression there and she said that I should have been born in a Latin American country. I really despise the UK and its very energy. I view my being inextricably linked to it by virtue of my unwanted nationality as some sort of karmic curse from which I can never fully flee.
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Spanish culture is still European. When I lived in South Korea, I didn't know Korean, so I hung around with some of my students and with fellow English teachers. I had to be able to communicate.

When I went to Jakarta, I made some Indonesian friends, had Indonesian co-workers, but after a while I started going to an international church and I joined a home Bible study where I hung out with a group of Americans, Canadians, a Nigerian, several Indonesians who spoke English, some of whom had studied overseas. I don't remember if he was in our cell group or he was just in that group of friends, but one guy was from Mexico. He was either full or half Italian, like second generation Mexican or something like that. One of the girls in that group of friends, not the cell group, was an Indonesian who soon married an American guy.
Through her, a couple of the expat women had come to work in Indonesia. We also had an ethnic Chinese guy raised partly in the US and partly in Hong Kong. At least a couple of the girls liked him. But there were several Indonesians in the group, too. My wife joined that group, too, for about a year, while we were dating.

Anyway, the Mexican guy was more similar to the expats than to Indonesians. Spain is a different culture from Britain, but if you are living some place like Korea or Indonesia, then Spaniards seem similar.

Btw, is it true that Spaniards do not consider themselves to be 'Hispanic'?

The last time I was in Indonesia, I can't really think of any expats I regularly hung out with. Well there was one who used to live in the same boarding house who got married to an Indonesian just before I did. Years later, he preached at our church, and our kids met each other, and liked to hang out together.

But other than that, I can't think of any Americans that we really hung out with except maybe for a one-off meeting here and there. I'm not going to pass for Indonesian with my face, or my accent. I didn't learn it when I was a teenager. My grammar is too informal for speeches or proper writing. I'm literate because the spelling system is easy, but I have little sight-word vocabulary.

I don't hate Britain. For me, England is where all those old movies about kings and knights and all that stuff is set. There are old castles. There are some interesting-sounding accents. Some accents sound 'posh'-- as you Brits call it. And some of the country accents are interesting, too. A white woman is more attractive when she has a British accent.

As far as races go, I think British tend to be a fairly good-looking people, the women at least. I mean, if they are thin. Most women aren't especially good-looking. But I would imagine the top 5% are quite nice looking. So I'd think the British are probably better looking on average, IMO, than Malay people-groups. There is the occasional stunner in Indonesia. I married one of them. But they seem a bit more frequent among those of British stock.

Ethnically, I'm probably more British than anything else. Then Scottish and Irish, and then French, German, and some trace DNA from Anatolia and some fraction of a percent African. Maybe that gave me just a bit of padding on my butt, but my dad is pure white on his DNA test. The fragment of 1% African blood is on my mom's side, and I think I got my butt from my dad's side. :)
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@Lucas88

I understand. I just can't stand K pop and I would hate it if some white koreaboo or some foreign koreaboo ask me about some obscure K-Pop group or some K drama.. I am incompatible with my homeland also. Me and other Koreans operate in a different wavelength and have different conflicting mindsets. The Connection between me and my people are just business, transactional base.. and no more.
In contrast, I connect well with Latinos and other non Koreans.

I didn't mean to bring up British stereotypes, and I didn't meant to invoke your bad memories in the past. I am just saying that is what some Americans think about you guys regardless of accent. I would hate it too if some bloke comes to me and said "South Korea is the best country in the world!". I would just laugh at his face for 30 seconds and say "nope!"

Yep people are generally "solipsistic" everywhere even outside Happierabroad. You try talking to your mates in the UK or in other countries about how the UK sucks.. most would not listen.
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MrMan wrote:
February 18th, 2023, 5:46 pm
Spain is a different culture from Britain, but if you are living some place like Korea or Indonesia, then Spaniards seem similar.
In my experience as somebody who has lived in Spain and understands the language and culture well, I think that Spaniards and British people are extremely different. For me, their respective mindset, way of life, cultural values, communication style and general vibe couldn't be any more dissimilar. I happen to be much more like a Mediterranean in terms of my character and mindset. That's why I feel at home and make friends easily in places like Spain and other Hispanic countries but just don't get along with British people at all.

Moreover, I believe that the UK is an "outlier culture". To me it seems radically different from any other European culture including those of its geographical neighbors. Brits are just something else and have all kinds of bizarre cultural quirks that other Europeans don't have. I think that's why people either love or hate British culture. I am obviously in the Anglophobic camp.
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Btw, is it true that Spaniards do not consider themselves to be 'Hispanic'?
"Hispanic" or the Spanish equivalent "hispano" is a linguistic denomination more than anything else. It refers to those who speak Spanish as their mother tongue whether they be from the Iberian peninsula or Latin America. Indeed, in Spanish the Spanish-speaking world is formally known as la hispanidad.

So Spaniards and Latin Americans are all "Hispanic". US usage of the term is a little different, I believe.
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
February 18th, 2023, 6:24 pm
I didn't mean to bring up British stereotypes, and I didn't meant to invoke your bad memories in the past. I am just saying that is what some Americans think about you guys regardless of accent. I would hate it too if some bloke comes to me and said "South Korea is the best country in the world!". I would just laugh at his face for 30 seconds and say "nope!"
Oh no, you didn't invoke any bad memories or offend me in any way, buddy! I was simply speaking in general terms about certain Anglophiles who I've met abroad who would always want to enthusiastically talk to me about topics to do with the UK such as certain British bands, television programs, actors or celebrities and at the same time make a big celebration of my "being British". Usually I didn't have a clue what they were talking around since I don't follow British media or pop culture or I would just get bored with their conversation and my lack of enthusiasm for the topics would become apparent. I especially don't like Anglophiles who want me to speak English with them or beg me for English lessons when I'm in a Hispanic country. I overwhelmingly prefer Spanish and don't even identify with my own culture and so I find it annoying whenever somebody tries to get me to speak English with them just because of my "native status". I don't care about other people's love for certain British fandoms or whether they think English is "cool". I mostly love Hispanic culture and believe that Spanish is aesthetically and morphologically superior to English. Those Anglophiles should talk to somebody who actually gives a damn!

Back in the early 2010s I used to follow some "gaijin" websites about living in Japan as a Westerner. Among that online material I sometimes found blog posts of Western residents complaining about "gaijin hunters" - Japanese people who are obsessed with American/Western culture and seek to befriend White Westerners for superficial reasons as though they were something to show off as pets -, and also "Eigo bandits" - Japanese people who either befriend White Westerners or approach them almost in a stalkerish manner just to practice English with them (Eigo 英語 means "English language" in Japanese). In both these cases the desired relationship is purely transactional from the Japanese person's perspective and therefore lacks sincerity. Such gaijin hunters and Eigo bandits would often become a nuisance for the White Westerners who simply wanted to integrate into Japanese society to the best of their ability and go about their daily lives. I agree that unwanted lionization of one's own nationality by others can be somewhat off-putting and inconvenient, especially when one has no real love for one's own nationality and really doesn't want the extra attention.

I've found that some people are extremely enthusiastic about their own culture while other aren't. Some people will happily talk to you about their country's culture, history, social landscape and language while others will become hostile if you try to talk to them about those things. I've known of German expats who hate German culture and refuse to speak German and insist on speaking nothing but English, a Japanese exchange student who absolutely loathed Japanese people and intentionally avoided his compatriots, and a Brazilian who would say things like "Brazilians are like animals who just want to party and f**k" and then go into detail about how much he hated Brazilian culture and other Brazilians and didn't want to be associated with them. I share a largely similar profile. I was born and raised in the UK but cannot stand the UK or its culture and prefer to immerse myself in another culture, in my case Hispanic. I likewise become pissed off whenever somebody brings unwanted attention to my nationality.

Anglophiles shouldn't push me. This could happen to them:



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Lucas88 wrote:
February 18th, 2023, 8:05 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
February 18th, 2023, 6:24 pm
I didn't mean to bring up British stereotypes, and I didn't meant to invoke your bad memories in the past. I am just saying that is what some Americans think about you guys regardless of accent. I would hate it too if some bloke comes to me and said "South Korea is the best country in the world!". I would just laugh at his face for 30 seconds and say "nope!"
Oh no, you didn't invoke any bad memories or offend me in any way, buddy! I was simply speaking in general terms about certain Anglophiles who I've met abroad who would always want to enthusiastically talk to me about topics to do with the UK such as certain British bands, television programs, actors or celebrities and at the same time make a big celebration of my "being British". Usually I didn't have a clue what they were talking around since I don't follow British media or pop culture or I would just get bored with their conversation and my lack of enthusiasm for the topics would become apparent. I especially don't like Anglophiles who want me to speak English with them or beg me for English lessons when I'm in a Hispanic country. I overwhelmingly prefer Spanish and don't even identify with my own culture and so I find it annoying whenever somebody tries to get me to speak English with them just because of my "native status". I don't care about other people's love for certain British fandoms or whether they think English is "cool". I mostly love Hispanic culture and believe that Spanish is aesthetically and morphologically superior to English. Those Anglophiles should talk to somebody who actually gives a damn!

Back in the early 2010s I used to follow some "gaijin" websites about living in Japan as a Westerner. Among that online material I sometimes found blog posts of Western residents complaining about "gaijin hunters" - Japanese people who are obsessed with American/Western culture and seek to befriend White Westerners for superficial reasons as though they were something to show off as pets -, and also "Eigo bandits" - Japanese people who either befriend White Westerners or approach them almost in a stalkerish manner just to practice English with them (Eigo 英語 means "English language" in Japanese). In both these cases the desired relationship is purely transactional from the Japanese person's perspective and therefore lacks sincerity. Such gaijin hunters and Eigo bandits would often become a nuisance for the White Westerners who simply wanted to integrate into Japanese society to the best of their ability and go about their daily lives. I agree that unwanted lionization of one's own nationality by others can be somewhat off-putting and inconvenient, especially when one has no real love for one's own nationality and really doesn't want the extra attention.

I've found that some people are extremely enthusiastic about their own culture while other aren't. Some people will happily talk to you about their country's culture, history, social landscape and language while others will become hostile if you try to talk to them about those things. I've known of German expats who hate German culture and refuse to speak German and insist on speaking nothing but English, a Japanese exchange student who absolutely loathed Japanese people and intentionally avoided his compatriots, and a Brazilian who would say things like "Brazilians are like animals who just want to party and f**k" and then go into detail about how much he hated Brazilian culture and other Brazilians and didn't want to be associated with them. I share a largely similar profile. I was born and raised in the UK but cannot stand the UK or its culture and prefer to immerse myself in another culture, in my case Hispanic. I likewise become pissed off whenever somebody brings unwanted attention to my nationality.

Anglophiles shouldn't push me. This could happen to them:



:lol: :lol: :lol:
Damn! Ouch! But Lucy Liu delivered quite a performance in Kill Bill 1.
As I have mentioned before, I am a South Korean living in America. They call that "Korean-American". And I don't like Korean culture and most Korean people either. Korean people are just aggressive, cold, pig headed, myopic, shallow people with no civility just like the Chinese. And I think Korean Culture is too age restrictive of who people should interact with and Koreans are too nationalistic in my taste. Korean media always broadcast stupid nationalistic tripe such as Korea selling Fighter Jets to Indonesia, Selling tanks to Poland, and selling K pop or K films to the rest of the world, etc. Who the bloody hell cares? The Korean society should focus on helping people instead of sending out such tripe.

I like Latino, Hispanic Medditerrean cultures too. I didn't have any major problems with Latinos and I have many friends who are Latinos from Spanish Town. It's much more vibrant and alive than the East Asian ones. East Asian culture is suffocating for the soul. I mean when you live in Korean Town and cross over to Spanish town, it's like night and day.

Yes, It's very strange yet completely understandable why a Japanese would hate his own culture, a German would hate his culture, A Brazilian, A Briton, A Korean, A Russian, etc, etc. I don't know the word for it.. I guess it depends on the person. Some people are not a fit for the culture no matter what.. Me with Korean people are like oil and water.. And hey even Winston Wu, a Taiwanese, hates Taiwan so much that he wrote an extensive blog in Happier Abroad. I guess the only solution is to move to a place that is right for you.
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
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I like Latino, Hispanic Medditerrean cultures too. I didn't have any major problems with Latinos and I have many friends who are Latinos from Spanish Town. It's much more vibrant and alive than the East Asian ones. East Asian culture is suffocating for the soul. I mean when you live in Korean Town and cross over to Spanish town, it's like night and day.
I also find East Asian culture cold, robotic and suffocating for the soul. I think that's the perfect way to describe it. Your description of the stark contrast between Korean Town and Spanish Town in your city sounds really interesting. The difference between certain cultures really is night and day.

In light of this, it should be understandable how some people simply don't vibe with certain cultures including their own since we all have our own unique individual nature. But, like we talked about earlier, a substantial subset of the population is just too solipsistic and NPC-like to understand.
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Yes, It's very strange yet completely understandable why a Japanese would hate his own culture, a German would hate his culture, A Brazilian, A Briton, A Korean, A Russian, etc, etc. I don't know the word for it..
The only terms I know for this phenomenon are "ethnic self-hatred" and "oikophobia". Oikophobia means "aversion towards one's own culture" and is the semantic opposite of "xenophobia".

There is also the similar concept of "cultural cringe" in which one feels ashamed of one's native culture perceiving it as being inferior to another one.
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Lucas88 wrote:
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So Spaniards and Latin Americans are all "Hispanic". US usage of the term is a little different, I believe.
I have heard of a Spaniard not wanting to be dubbed 'Hispanic.'
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Lucas88 wrote:
February 18th, 2023, 9:45 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
February 18th, 2023, 8:45 pm
I like Latino, Hispanic Medditerrean cultures too. I didn't have any major problems with Latinos and I have many friends who are Latinos from Spanish Town. It's much more vibrant and alive than the East Asian ones. East Asian culture is suffocating for the soul. I mean when you live in Korean Town and cross over to Spanish town, it's like night and day.
I also find East Asian culture cold, robotic and suffocating for the soul. I think that's the perfect way to describe it. Your description of the stark contrast between Korean Town and Spanish Town in your city sounds really interesting. The difference between certain cultures really is night and day.

In light of this, it should be understandable how some people simply don't vibe with certain cultures including their own since we all have our own unique individual nature. But, like we talked about earlier, a substantial subset of the population is just too solipsistic and NPC-like to understand.
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February 18th, 2023, 8:45 pm
Yes, It's very strange yet completely understandable why a Japanese would hate his own culture, a German would hate his culture, A Brazilian, A Briton, A Korean, A Russian, etc, etc. I don't know the word for it..
The only terms I know for this phenomenon are "ethnic self-hatred" and "oikophobia". Oikophobia means "aversion towards one's own culture" and is the semantic opposite of "xenophobia".

There is also the similar concept of "cultural cringe" in which one feels ashamed of one's native culture perceiving it as being inferior to another one.
On man.. you try living in South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, China and you will find out what I say to true.. Even Winston Wu said how he hated his country Taiwan so much because it is spirituality f8cked up and people are all soulless reptilians.

I used to embrace Korean culture when I was young, but as time passed, I started to hate it, and despise it because so many of my really bad experiences with Korean people. And Korean TV shows used to have good historical dramas and quality experimental music back in the 90's and early 2000's. But they stopped broadcasting those in the late 2000's. Now they are filled with artificial crap, stupid K pop garbage and sh1t dramas.

You got to watch your back when you live in K town. There are so many lying backstabbers that would charge rip off price to other Koreans and commit all sort of fraud towards others. That's why even Koreans in K town say "Never trust an another Korean while your in America."
Koreans in K towns are too busy literally cannibalizing each other and fighting each other for breadcrumbs instead of uniting together and cooperating like the Jews or the Chinese. Korean churches, Korean organizations, businesses, etc are regressing in a downward spiral.. everybody wants to exhort, harass, judge, compete, scrutinize, distrusts each other. There is no such thing as honor and loyalty for these ghouls.

So that's why I hate when some white koreaboos said South Korea is number one. Total cultural cringe.
I especially hate this guy "Sam Hammington" who is this fat white guy born in New Zealand, lived in Australia and went to South Korea to be a "Korean patriot" and selling himself out hard to South Koreans and acting like a stupid white monkey in South Korea.
Your friendly Neighborhood Cynic!
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