My point was that a man can combine various virtues at the same time and become a more complete and more valuable man as a result. Our attributes are not fixed. We can consciously cultivate them and broaden our own virtues. We don't have to be one-dimensional.Outcast9428 wrote: ↑March 13th, 2023, 9:46 pmEven if guys who are highly intelligent, physically strong, and socially charismatic exist, they are a very very small percentage of the population. Half of everybody with an IQ above 140 is autistic. The median autistic IQ is 110 and 16% of autistic people have an IQ above 130 compared to 2% of the general population. Given that autists represent 25% of all people with an IQ above 130, that means the chances of a neurotypical having an IQ above 130 is only 1.5%. Suppose a neurotypical did have an IQ above 130 and thus had good social skills. Approximately 70% of Americans are overweight and another 5% are underweight. Most people with a healthy/normal body weight are not really muscular either. So the number of individuals who could possibly fit the fold of a muscular, socially skilled person with an IQ above 130 is probably about 0.1%, maybe 0.2% at most.
A smart guy can develop his body through physical training and become both more athletic and more sexually attractive to women. An athletic guy can take up reading and become learned. One can pursue excellence in various areas. A man who excels in both intellect and physique/athleticism is obviously superior to a guy who only has intellect.
For some reason, this seems to be lost on you. You don't want to recognize this because you only have intellect but not physique or other forms of attractiveness and so it throws a massive wrench in your pretension to superiority. It shows that you are not as great a man as you like to believe.
I myself on the other hand was smarter about things. I didn't adopt a "nerd" identity (which is nothing more than a cultural construct, by the way) and claim that my intelligence was all that I needed and that I should be valued for it; I took on physical training as well and did my best to cultivate a good physique and athleticism. I've even tried to work on my social skills. I've always had a more realistic view of the world while you would rather whine about how women don't value one-dimensional men like you for their intelligence and that they're "degenerates" because of it.
The statistics that you cite above about overweight Americans and autism and such are irrelevant. They don't detract from my point because my point is that people can cultivate multiple virtues at the same time through conscious effort. The key is self-improvement.
I don't deny that you're above average in terms of intelligence (I used the colloquial term "midwit" more for its dramatic and provocative effect), but at the same time I don't think that you're as smart as you think you are. Lol!Outcast9428 wrote: ↑March 13th, 2023, 9:46 pm@Mercer Its funny that Lucas says I'm a midwit for being "one dimensional." He has said this in the past...
I didn't just graduate from college. I got through it while admittedly having atrocious studying habits. I probably only studied two hours a week. I've mentioned before how much I hated college, being extremely unmotivated was a big part of my life there. I did not feel like there was any point in me being there, I was only doing it because I felt compelled to finish what I had started. Despite terrible studying habits, I still ended up getting B average grades. This is despite the fact that some assignments, I simply didn't do at all. Some classes, I got an A in despite not having read a single page of the textbook. The college I went to is also a pretty competitive school. The reason I got fairly good grades was because I am extremely good at essay writing. Any essay I got, I could get an A in. Even the multiple choice exams, I could usually figure out what the answer was based on simply knowing the subject matter well enough to get the correct answer. Other students I met simply couldn't believe how well I was able to do with such horrible studying habits. Pretty much everybody else I knew who acted like I did failed out. I knew one guy who studied for an exam for two days straight. He wouldn't do anything, he spend all day studying for two days. A total of 24 hours. He got a grade of 78%. I studied for the same exam for about two hours and got 92%.Outcast is undoubtedly intelligent and admits that he's a bit of a nerd. Even though I rarely agree with him, I recognize that he is more than capable of writing out coherent arguments and expressing himself well. Intellect is definitely his strong point in contrast to his lack of physical development and primal masculinity. I don't know what field of expertise Outcast has but he's mentioned that he graduated from college and seems to read a lot.
I have never bothered to get a real IQ test, but my father has... His IQ is 136. I don't believe mine is quite that high. My dad when he was my age did have slightly stronger intellectual abilities, some that would appear almost superhuman. He could, for example, remember a ten minute speech word for word. I can't do that, I have pretty good memory but it isn't quite that precise. Intelligence, however, is mostly determined by genetics and having a father with an IQ of 136 pretty much guarantees a highly intelligent son.
You've even gone on record to say that people here should listen to your observations and that your observations are usually right because you're "much smarter than most people", or so we are supposed to believe (lol!); however, as I mentioned in my previous post, you often have no understanding of deeper nuances, display simplistic black-and-white thinking, and are quick to insistently project your own little pet theories onto everything including things that you know little about (e.g., your insistence that I should have adopted nerd culture just because I'm autistic despite my having grown up in a different environment to yourself and you knowing relatively little about my life history - one of many examples, by the way). Those things aren't the hallmarks of extremely high intelligence or of a perspicacious thinker. I find it unlikely that you are as smart as you claim to be. Lol!
On this forum you have a tendency to vastly overestimate your own intelligence and competence in certain areas of knowledge while underestimating those of others. I think that you're a classical case of the Dunning-Kruger effect!
Pure speculation. You literally know next to nothing about my academic history, study habits, any possible uncanny cognitive abilities, intellectual achievements, biological kin, etc. and now you seem to think that you can estimate my IQ score. Lol!Outcast9428 wrote: ↑March 13th, 2023, 9:46 pmWhile I am sure Lucas is 120+ in IQ, I doubt he is 130+.
But you've never really cared about reality or objectivity too much, have you?
The rest of your post is just waffle which might as well be summarized as "Lucas can't be that smart because I don't find his ideology coherent enough". I think that this is a reflection of your own prejudices of how/what you subjectively believe an intelligent person ought to think more than anything else. That is clearly the case when you start waffling on about the right-left spectrum, antisemitism and the Abrahamic religions. Lol!Outcast9428 wrote: ↑March 13th, 2023, 9:46 pmLucas seems to believe that you can just switch parts and place them wherever you want and expect the computer, or in this case, human organization system... To work. Any criticism of this way of thinking is deemed as black and white thinking by him and lacking in nuance. The truth is, his ideology is a disaster and he doesn't even seem to fully understand what his ideology is. He displays a deficiency in his ability to see how ideas that may technically be different flow together and enhance one another. Not only that but he seems fundamentally confused as to what his ideas actually stand for ...
Yes, I'm somewhat of an eclectic thinker, but I don't think that's a bad thing.
I have the ability to compare and contrast different ideologies and evaluate the beneficial and negative aspects of all of them. I am more open-minded as opposed to dogmatic. I don't claim to have all of the answers and so I am constantly exploring new ideas and information. I have arguably a more mature way of thinking. You on the other hand are indeed closed-mindedly ideological and do believe that you have all of the answers despite being a 25 year-old guy with meager life experience and almost no intellectual maturity. But I guess that's just the Dunning-Krugerite within you!
I have more flexibility of thought and have no interest in narrow dogmatism. I am also naturally suspicious of ideologues. You on the other hand have zero flexibility of thought and can only fathom things from a narrow America-centric political perspective. That's why you still believe in the US right as the solution despite the US right having always had a major boner for Israel and Zionism. You're not even perspicacious enough to see beyond the limited cultural framework of your own culture of birth (and the cultural framework of contemporary America is indeed notoriously limited).
But, at any rate, thanks for the comedy, buddy. It's been hilarious hearing you trying to convince us about how smart you are!