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January 15th, 2024, 9:09 pm
Well kudos to you for managing to scrape by on a meagre living. Do you think that's any way to live? Scraping by and barely being able to eat or pay your bills when these big corporations like Walmart are raking in billions in profit?
What does one thing have to do with another? If Walmart rakes in billions in profits, that doesn't make it any less stealing to steal from them. And Walmart is owned by shareholders. There are people who work and have 401Ks or other retirement plans who get a tiny sliver of Walmart, and when millions of people like yourself steal from their business, they may lose money they would have otherwise gotten. That includes retirees.

God has taken good care of me. I didn't starve and I had a good life, even when I was poor. I was poor living across from the beach at one point. I could even see a sliver of the ocean from my window, in the cheapest apartment we could find for our family size.
While we're talking about profit. You blame people stealing bits here and there from supermarkets for rising costs but if that is the case then how are these same corporations making so much profit and more and more every single year whilst people like us are struggling to pay rent and eat? You need to take the blinkers off, mate.
None of that justifies stealing. It's wrong to steal from the rich. It's wrong to steal from the poor, but more cruel.
You can ask them to set up an area like that, and pay for the food yourself.
Well, @MrMan... That isn't a very Christian attitude now, is it? Where is your sense of charity and good will towards others?[/quote]

Why would a sense of charity make me want to force some other person or entity to give up their property, instead of me giving my own. @kangarunner 's response didn't make much sense either. A 'Christian thing to do' is to feed the poor, not take other people's property to do so. It doesn't have to cost me anything to steal someone else's bread to give to another.
I thought as a Christian you would be all for giving away food to those who need it the most. But in one thread you even said that people who don't work don't even deserve to eat. :roll:
If any man will not work, neither should he eat is from St. Paul in the Bible. Paul also said that he left the elders of the church an example of working with his own hands to support the weak. There are people who aren't able to work and support themselves. There are also people who are diligent people who just haven't found a job. Not all work is in 'a job' that pays. If someone is out of work, he can volunteer to do various things or work on trying to start a business that might eventually support himself and his family. I figure if a man doesn't deserve to eat, that's between him and God. I haven't been out giving food to the homeless in a while, but I don't interview them to see if any of them refuse to work.
Hahaha! :lol: seriously?! This is coming from someone who believes we need the Bible to serve as a compass when it comes to morality?! Maybe this says more about Christians who need the Bible to stop them committing agregious actions out of fear of the consequences.
Says the thief.
I don't need the Bible or the law to prevent me committing transgressions against others. I don't steal from friends or neighbours.
Your neighbors may own stock in Walmart. And if Walmart mades 20% last year and makes 10% profit this year, the value of the stock could go _down_ and your little old lady retiree neighbor could be out money if she had to sell stock or not get a dividend that year. (I don't know whether Walmart pays dividends or under what circumstances. That's up to management for each company.)
I don't give a shit about supermarkets who make billions in profit by artificially raising their prices to make more and more profit for greedy CEOs under some bullshit reason like people stealing bits here and there or inflation.
Maybe you should watch a video about how corporations work. They have shareholders. They don't just own themselves.

I don't know if they are 'artificially raising their prices.' That probably happens in some cases. In the US, during Covid, the government invented more money and doled it out when fewer people were working. Our flimsy fiat currency is supposed to be backed up by GDP. Fewer people working and making stuff means our money is worth less, and they were doling more out (digitally), so a little while later, inflation was sure to hit, which it did, and we are still feeling the effects. In the US, the Dollar Tree used to sell everything for a dollar. Inflation went up pretty quick. Instead of filling all of their stores with even cheaper junk from China, now just about everything there is $1.25. Did they artificially raise their prices? Probably not. They probably couldn't afford to buy the same junk and sell it for $1.00, so they had to sell it for $1.25.
Besides, these same supermarkets throw away tons and tons of food every month because they are past their shelf life and they put padlocks on their dumpsters because they would literally prefer homeless and poor to starve to death than let them take their products without paying for them!
I used to manage a group home. Large grocery store chains donated lots of food to the food bank right before it expired. We'd buy food for 16 cents a pound, even the meat. I suspect the ministries and charities that fed the homeless shopped at the same food bank. I don't know about all the stores, but at least back then, there were grocery store chains giving food away.

A lot of food stays good past the expiration date, but I suspect if grocery stores are locking up dumpsters, they might be concerned of getting sued for eating spoiled food out of the dumpster-- that and making an awful mess. Around here, a lock on a dumpster might keep a racoon out. Those critters could make a big mess.

None of your arguments here make it any less stealing to steal from the grocery stores. In that line of work, they will have waste and spoilage. People do too. In the US, maybe a third of food has to be thrown away. People buy a lot of food, put it in the refrigerator, and don't eat up their leftovers. Restaurants are afraid people will get sick. Health departments want food below 40 or 45 or over so many degrees, maybe 140 F. Giving old food away is a legal liability.

If you steal food from supermarkets, it adds to their costs and they raise their prices more for the honest poor who do not steal from the store.
So yeah, f**k these corporate assholes!
Do you mean the little old lady widow living off the stock her husband left her in his retirement account?
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MrMan wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 7:55 pm
You can ask them to set up an area like that, and pay for the food yourself.
Walmart I believe is 1st in the Fortune 500 list. They have so much money that money literally does not matter to them. Giving meals to those in need would literally do nothing to their profits.

If you say you're a Christian, then you would know that Jesus was a compassionate and generous and loving person. He would give to others in need. He would want to bring people together instead of separating others. In all the countries I've been to, the ones that are the happiest and live in peaceful harmony are the ones where the people say hello to strangers and are nice to each other. Colombia for the most part was one. Most definitely Vietnam. Some parts of America (smaller towns).

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kangarunner wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 10:54 pm
MrMan wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 7:55 pm
You can ask them to set up an area like that, and pay for the food yourself.
Walmart I believe is 1st in the Fortune 500 list. They have so much money that money literally does not matter to them. Giving meals to those in need would literally do nothing to their profits.

If you say you're a Christian, then you would know that Jesus was a compassionate and generous and loving person. He would give to others in need. He would want to bring people together instead of separating others. In all the countries I've been to, the ones that are the happiest and live in peaceful harmony are the ones where the people say hello to strangers and are nice to each other. Colombia for the most part was one. Most definitely Vietnam. Some parts of America (smaller towns).

I encourage you to vote for the Democrat ticket on this year's election sir.
Again with the Democrat....Come on man don't start this again...You know damn well the Democrats is a shitty party. The Republicans aren't much better, but Democrats are absolute garbage..Destroying their own cities, promoting hate against whites because they think nigs and Spics will be easier to control. Democrats are the worse party you can vote for, the best thing to do is go third party or don't vote at all. Vote Democrat if you want to be ruled over by communist scumbags too stupid to close the goddamn border and will keep making living conditions worse for everyone. Even their own dumb black voters are slowly turning on them now. Just not enough since they are easily tempted with "free shit."

People are only "nice" in poor countries because that's how they are everywhere where the living standards are really low excluding America where people don't fake politeness as much when the conditions are worse.
That video that was posted here showing that dude walking around India. Everyone was smiling and saying hello to him too. Yet half of that country would have also ripped his ass off and would have taken total advantage of him which is why he was smart enough to not mistake all that smiling and "niceness" for automatic trust.
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WanderingProtagonist wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:23 am
People are only "nice" in poor countries because that's how they are everywhere where the living standards are really low excluding America where people don't fake politeness as much when the conditions are worse.
I don't know what you're meaning here. In many places I've been to outside of America, people are just more down to earth and less selfish. They'll help you if you need help.
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:23 am
That video that was posted here showing that dude walking around India. Everyone was smiling and saying hello to him too. Yet half of that country would have also ripped his ass off and would have taken total advantage of him which is why he was smart enough to not mistake all that smiling and "niceness" for automatic trust.
I probably will never go to India just because of what I've heard about it. What you're saying is similar to what @publicduende said about Filipinos showing you a fake nice exterior but when you get to know them, they're selfish and will take advantage of you.
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kangarunner wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:40 am
I probably will never go to India just because of what I've heard about it. What you're saying is similar to what @publicduende said about Filipinos showing you a fake nice exterior but when you get to know them, they're selfish and will take advantage of you.
Consider that most of these vloggers venturing in random places full of locals ready to give them a smile and some passing curiosity, are doing this on purpose. It's the new frontier of poverty porn.
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kangarunner wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 10:54 pm
MrMan wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 7:55 pm
You can ask them to set up an area like that, and pay for the food yourself.
Walmart I believe is 1st in the Fortune 500 list. They have so much money that money literally does not matter to them. Giving meals to those in need would literally do nothing to their profits.[/quoted]

I just looked it up and Walmart does give millions to foodbanks.

If you take a cup of water out of the lake, it just a cup of water. Does it take 'literally nothing' from the lake? No, it takes a cup out. If you start taking dozens of cups a day, then a couple of baths worth, and multiply that by a city, if the lake isn't constantly replenished, it can shrink down. A drop out of a bucket looks like very little. Poke a tiny hole in the bottom that releases a drop every few seconds, and your will come back in a few hours to find an empty bucket.

But 'shrinkage' from theft does affect profits. They measure that amount. The (sometimes old) people they put by the door who check your receipt if something is not in a bag are shrinkage agents. Shrinkage is big enough of an issue for them to pay those people's salaries.

But it does not matter how rich Walmart is. Don't steal so that ___you___ won't be bad or compromise your integrity. I don't mean to single 'you' out. That applies to everyone.
If you say you're a Christian, then you would know that Jesus was a compassionate and generous and loving person. He would give to others in need. He would want to bring people together instead of separating others. In all the countries I've been to, the ones that are the happiest and live in peaceful harmony are the ones where the people say hello to strangers and are nice to each other. Colombia for the most part was one. Most definitely Vietnam. Some parts of America (smaller towns).

I encourage you to vote for the Democrat ticket on this year's election sir.
Where did that come from? The Democratic party is too divisive. They support weird social experiments that damage people. 30 years ago if a little boy told his parents he wanted to be a girl or a little girl told her parents she wanted to be a boy, the parents might gently talk some sense into the child, find out why (getting to go to the slumber party, paint faces, climb trees with boys who don't want to play with girls.) Now, weirdos have got funding to go into schools and confuse the kids by telling the boys that they might really be girls on the inside or telling the girls they might really be boys on the inside. Which political party backs this garbage up? Of course this creates division because parents who aren't easily brainwashed by the placement of trans characters in TV, the rhetoric from liberal teachers, and the whole propaganda campaign are going to oppose schools trying to convince their children to get castrated or to get their breasts chopped off.

I don't want to vote for the pro-child-castration party, or the kill-the-baby-in-the-womb party, or the raise-your-taxes party, or the bizarre-social-engineering party.

If you care about the poor, give to the poor. Don't vote for a party to raise taxes and give some of it on the poor, and spend some of it on pork barrel, and some of it on damaging and offensive social engineering projects. I heard a researcher describe his research on who gives more, conservatives or liberals. Based on percentage of income, conservatives gave much more of their income, surprisingly even to environmental causes, than liberals. Church going conservatives gave much more. Occasionally, I run across a liberal/progressive who tries to paint conservatives as stingy because conservatives generally don't want the government to take even more money from people to give to inefficient social programs and other issues. But whether one is stingy or not is best measured by what one does with what one has. Voting Democrat is not a good work. It isn't giving to the poor.

I already emailed a Democrat senator who represents me. Usually, if you email them, you get some kind of response. One of my Congressmen will have aides call us back. But I emailed my senator and told him that though I never served in the military and wasn't of retirement age, I identify as 6 retired 5 star generals and I haven't got my paycheck yet, and I haven't seen a single email or heard a single phone message back from him on this, and he hasn't sent me a check, even though he supported giving trans people special legal protections that other people do not get. So why should I vote Democrat?

Regarding unity, Jesus did not speak about unity at all costs. He said He came not to bring peace but a sword, talked about setting relatives at variance with one another, and a man's enemies would be they of his own household. Families would be divided over him and Christians would be persecuted. The Bible does speak of the benefits of unity, but we have to be united around the right things.
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publicduende wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:47 am
kangarunner wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:40 am
I probably will never go to India just because of what I've heard about it. What you're saying is similar to what @publicduende said about Filipinos showing you a fake nice exterior but when you get to know them, they're selfish and will take advantage of you.
Consider that most of these vloggers venturing in random places full of locals ready to give them a smile and some passing curiosity, are doing this on purpose. It's the new frontier of poverty porn.
Exactly because no one else would even take out the time to do that just because they want the attention. I wouldn't go into a piss poor country just to exploit the condition for online hits, places like that would make me uncomfortable but I live in America aka California. We have shitty living conditions just like the situation in that India travel video, except it's even worse here because the high rates of violent crime everywhere on top of the poverty. That guy would have got his ass kicked even in open public in San Fransisco just for the hell of it.

Plus look how stupid the guy was, shaking hands with everybody...Don't even know where their hands have been lol and he's shaking their hands and eating without washing them :lol:
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WanderingProtagonist wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 8:22 am
publicduende wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:47 am
kangarunner wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:40 am
I probably will never go to India just because of what I've heard about it. What you're saying is similar to what @publicduende said about Filipinos showing you a fake nice exterior but when you get to know them, they're selfish and will take advantage of you.
Consider that most of these vloggers venturing in random places full of locals ready to give them a smile and some passing curiosity, are doing this on purpose. It's the new frontier of poverty porn.
Exactly because no one else would even take out the time to do that just because they want the attention. I wouldn't go into a piss poor country just to exploit the condition for online hits, places like that would make me uncomfortable but I live in America aka California. We have shitty living conditions just like the situation in that India travel video, except it's even worse here because the high rates of violent crime everywhere on top of the poverty. That guy would have got his ass kicked even in open public in San Fransisco just for the hell of it.

Plus look how stupid the guy was, shaking hands with everybody...Don't even know where their hands have been lol and he's shaking their hands and eating without washing them :lol:
Maybe those vloggers should travel to Commiefornia and shoot a blog. Maybe they get sh*t kicked out of them by angry drugged up homeless people and get bag full of fecal matter thrown at them as welcoming present. :lol:
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 8:26 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 8:22 am
publicduende wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:47 am
kangarunner wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:40 am
I probably will never go to India just because of what I've heard about it. What you're saying is similar to what @publicduende said about Filipinos showing you a fake nice exterior but when you get to know them, they're selfish and will take advantage of you.
Consider that most of these vloggers venturing in random places full of locals ready to give them a smile and some passing curiosity, are doing this on purpose. It's the new frontier of poverty porn.
Exactly because no one else would even take out the time to do that just because they want the attention. I wouldn't go into a piss poor country just to exploit the condition for online hits, places like that would make me uncomfortable but I live in America aka California. We have shitty living conditions just like the situation in that India travel video, except it's even worse here because the high rates of violent crime everywhere on top of the poverty. That guy would have got his ass kicked even in open public in San Fransisco just for the hell of it.

Plus look how stupid the guy was, shaking hands with everybody...Don't even know where their hands have been lol and he's shaking their hands and eating without washing them :lol:
Maybe those vloggers should travel to Commiefornia and shoot a blog. Maybe they get sh*t kicked out of them by angry drugged up homeless people and get bag full of fecal matter thrown at them as welcoming present. :lol:
And that has actually happened too. A woman was walking to her car, and this homeless guy tossed a bucket of hot diarrhea on her. This country has lost it.
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WanderingProtagonist wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 8:29 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 8:26 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 8:22 am
publicduende wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:47 am
kangarunner wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 5:40 am
I probably will never go to India just because of what I've heard about it. What you're saying is similar to what @publicduende said about Filipinos showing you a fake nice exterior but when you get to know them, they're selfish and will take advantage of you.
Consider that most of these vloggers venturing in random places full of locals ready to give them a smile and some passing curiosity, are doing this on purpose. It's the new frontier of poverty porn.
Exactly because no one else would even take out the time to do that just because they want the attention. I wouldn't go into a piss poor country just to exploit the condition for online hits, places like that would make me uncomfortable but I live in America aka California. We have shitty living conditions just like the situation in that India travel video, except it's even worse here because the high rates of violent crime everywhere on top of the poverty. That guy would have got his ass kicked even in open public in San Fransisco just for the hell of it.

Plus look how stupid the guy was, shaking hands with everybody...Don't even know where their hands have been lol and he's shaking their hands and eating without washing them :lol:
Maybe those vloggers should travel to Commiefornia and shoot a blog. Maybe they get sh*t kicked out of them by angry drugged up homeless people and get bag full of fecal matter thrown at them as welcoming present. :lol:
And that has actually happened too. A woman was walking to her car, and this homeless guy tossed a bucket of hot diarrhea on her. This country has lost it.
Yes.. I guess she have already received a nice warm commie-fornian welcome. :lol:
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I hate to say it,but it's confirmed now that MrMan is the least likeable poster on here,from his refusal to condemn kabbalists,to this crap,to his shaming of anyone that doesn't betabux some tradwife,he's too far gone to be considered normal.
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MrMan wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 6:37 am
I am curious who else here is a thief and wants to admit it.
I'm a thief fella. I've stolen the virginity of dozens of stunning ladyboys with postop pussies so beautiful that they might as well have been made by michelangelo! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Made Man Tony wrote:
January 16th, 2024, 3:22 pm
MrMan wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 6:37 am
I am curious who else here is a thief and wants to admit it.
I'm a thief fella. I've stolen the virginity of dozens of stunning ladyboys with postop pussies so beautiful that they might as well have been made by michelangelo! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
A rainbow robber?

I notice you didn't claim the other orifices of these homosexual men were 'virgin.' Did you mess with the guys other non-virgin holes that the previous homosexuals had accessed?
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if stealing is illegal, then hookups should be too.

the myth of consent is that a female can do whatever she wants as long it doesn't hurt anyone so because a man can have as many sex as possible while leaving others sexually frustrated is perfectly fair.

But this is wrong. There is a concept called victimless crimes, in which whether it involves a victim is debated. An example includes stealing...no direct victims but if you look into it, it eats up the profit of the company, encourages a culture of stealing, and is generally antisocial.

If you look at it that way, which one has more "antisocial" damage? Hookup culture causing 60% young men to be sexless, or stealing in which large corporations are still in businesis? Keep that in mind, unlike stealing, hookup culture has also destroyed the society, culture, and actually harmed MANY people over it, more than worst genocides in history (mainly abortion but also many familiies destroyed).

So, all in all, hook up culture has victims, it is making us harder to get good wives, harder to get a girlfriend.

Also, as a fascist, the idea that sexuality "freedumb" is stupid. Everyone must serve their community and that includes making pro social changes to it; When you give people too much freedom, they get hijacked by malicious forces, and destroy social cohension/unity/identity.
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also as the rich people, chads and female have unfair work related advantages, which entitles them to higher pay and more promotions.so stealing is justice for happier abroaders like us who don't have life advantage.
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