Is Our Earth FLAT and Motionless, Not a Spinning Globe?

[Neo]

Neo,
You will love this lecture in Amsterdam by Rob Skiba where he exposes NASA. He has the same views as you. What's ironic is that this is the country that exposed the fake moon rock given to the Dutch Queen by the Apollo 11 Astronauts, which turned out to be petrified wood.

In this segment from the 2nd lecture I gave in Amsterdam, I give plenty of evidence to show that NASA is not to be trusted - beginning with the meaning of the word "nasa" in Hebrew. I found it more than poetic that I was able to do so in the nation that exposed at least one of the moon rocks are fraudulent.

All the information is already out there, for those who can accept it. It's basically not even really hidden. Like the admissions that the moon landings couldn't be done today, though they were supposedly "done" decades ago.

[Winston]

Thanks, for the link. Rob Skiba is up there with Eric Dubay in terms of the Flat Earth.

This topic is one that I've mostly completed. I've moved onto other conspiracies, specifically ones about politics and history. The rabbit hole truly runs deep. It seems that much of history is a gross distortion of the truth. These run so deep that they can't even be mentioned to most people. Their minds cannot grasp it and will react with hate. The true nature of things is very different from that which we've been led to believe. But how could a person ever explain that? People have to discover it for themselves, and many people simply will have no interest.

You've seen Rob Skiba's lectures before? He is much more likable than Eric Dubay. Dubay is kind of cold and doesn't tolerate dissent on his forum. He bans everyone who disagrees with him. Not that nice or tolerant. Rob is more of an everyday average likable Joe though, the kind you'd like to hang with in real life. Rob is also a good public speaker, whereas Dubay only speaks in podcasts, never in public.

[Winston]

Interesting debate between a Christian and Catholic about whether the Bible teaches a flat Earth or not. Rob Skiba vs Robert Sungenis, director of the movie "The Principle" which promotes a Geocentric model of the universe and a stationary Earth.

[Winston]

Rob Skiba talks about the Biblical Flat Earth in Amsterdam, and how even William Shatner says that cosmology is fiction and makes no sense and are just numbers and equations on paper.

In this short segment from my Amsterdam lecture, I show more evidence that the Bible and Enoch are unquestionably written from an enclosed, flat world perspective. I also show how "science" is exposed as science fiction by none other than Captain - where no man has gone before - Kirk himself. Somebody is wrong. I don't know about you, but I'm not prepared to say it's the Holy Spirit inspired authors of Scripture.

[Winston]

@Neo and @gsjackson:

You won't believe this, but NASA officials ACTUALLY do admit that they've lost all the technology that sent them to the Moon and cannot recreate or rebuild it! So it's not a conspiracy theory claim, NASA staff actually SAID that! Take a look below and see for yourself. They also claim that they cannot leave LOW EARTH ORBIT and that it's impossible for anyone today to do so, and talk as if no one ever has before too! They actually SAID that! FOR REAL! See for yourself below. This should make everyone raise an eyebrow, including the pro-Apollo crowd.

[gsjackson]

@Neo and @gsjackson:

You won't believe this, but NASA officials ACTUALLY do admit that they've lost all the technology that sent them to the Moon and cannot recreate or rebuild it! So it's not a conspiracy theory claim, NASA staff actually SAID that! Take a look below and see for yourself. They also claim that they cannot leave LOW EARTH ORBIT and that it's impossible for anyone today to do so, and talk as if no one ever has before too! They actually SAID that! FOR REAL! See for yourself below. This should make everyone raise an eyebrow, including the pro-Apollo crowd.

Winston, I ran across that "lost it" footage when I first started looking into this almost three years ago, and several times since. Yes, it's kind of hard to explain away, and I've never heard anyone even try.

[Winston]

Interesting documentary about how the Jesuits created the globe Earth model and why they did it.

Remember guys, this quote:

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
- Aristotle

[Winston]

Rob Skiba does a presentation targeting those who wish to debunk Flat Earth called "Debunking Flat Earth 101". He's very passionate and loud in this presentation.

Neo and gsjackson, you will love this one. It's funny and melodramatic.

This video is dedicated to those who wish to debunk the Flat Earth. There are at least 12 things you NEED TO KNOW going into such an endeavor.

[Neo]

@Neo and @gsjackson:

You won't believe this, but NASA officials ACTUALLY do admit that they've lost all the technology that sent them to the Moon and cannot recreate or rebuild it! So it's not a conspiracy theory claim, NASA staff actually SAID that! Take a look below and see for yourself. They also claim that they cannot leave LOW EARTH ORBIT and that it's impossible for anyone today to do so, and talk as if no one ever has before too! They actually SAID that! FOR REAL! See for yourself below. This should make everyone raise an eyebrow, including the pro-Apollo crowd.

The fact that it can't be done now is all the proof needed.

[Winston]

@Neo, @gsjackson, @Yohan:

Theres something i dont get. If the earth is moving through space in its orbital path at 67,000mph then how come when astronauts go to outer space, especially the Apollo astronauts, the earth didnt shoot away from them like a speeding bullet and leave them in the dust and in outer space to die with no hope of ever catching up to the moving earth?

Doesnt that make you scratch your head? Very odd isnt it?

Also why dont the stars change every night if the earth is moving through space? Why are the stars the same every night? Especially the north pole star polaris which remains fixed and never moves? Are we supposed to believe that all the stars are moving too at exactly the same rate and direction as our sun so as not to be noticed? Lol. And the stars are so far away that earths movement doesnt change how they look in the sky? Lol. Yeah right.

Also its one thing to prove the earth is rotating and even if it is proven, it a different issue to prove that the earth is also moving through space at 67,000mph right? Those are two separate issues. Right?

How come most people wont ask or answer these questions? All people do is ridicule you if u ask them? I guess one is not allowed to question anything that is established, even if it cannot be proven or demonstrated to be true. Go figure. Lol

Do u have any explanation for these questions? What would NASA or astronomers say?

[Neo]

@Neo, @gsjackson, @Yohan:

Theres something i dont get. If the earth is moving through space in its orbital path at 67,000mph then how come when astronauts go to outer space, especially the Apollo astronauts, the earth didnt shoot away from them like a speeding bullet and leave them in the dust and in outer space to die with no hope of ever catching up to the moving earth?

Doesnt that make you scratch your head? Very odd isnt it?

Also why dont the stars change every night if the earth is moving through space? Why are the stars the same every night? Especially the north pole star polaris which remains fixed and never moves? Are we supposed to believe that all the stars are moving too at exactly the same rate and direction as our sun so as not to be noticed? Lol. And the stars are so far away that earths movement doesnt change how they look in the sky? Lol. Yeah right.

Also its one thing to prove the earth is rotating and even if it is proven, it a different issue to prove that the earth is also moving through space at 67,000mph right? Those are two separate issues. Right?

How come most people wont ask or answer these questions? All people do is ridicule you if u ask them? I guess one is not allowed to question anything that is established, even if it cannot be proven or demonstrated to be true. Go figure. Lol

Do u have any explanation for these questions? What would NASA or astronomers say?

That's exactly correct. This is the Matrix.

[Winston]

Alexs reply to my questions about the movement of the earth.

[5/19, 1:39 PM] Alex From Venice: Those are very well explained by basic physics bro. When astronauts departs from earth they are travelling at the same speed of earth... even if they leave earth, they'll still keep travelling at same speed due to the so called inertia

[5/19, 1:41 PM] Alex From Venice: stars are so distant from earth that earth movement isn't enough to cause a change in perspective

[5/19, 1:42 PM] Alex From Venice: the thing is that earth keeps its rotation axis always parallel to itself so that the angular position of the stars relative to earth north pole is always the same

[5/19, 1:56 PM] Winston Wu: But isn't that just a theory and words? Its never been proven or demonstrated right?

[5/19, 2:49 PM] Alex From Venice: Well... it's demonstrated by the satellites that orbits around the earth... and the "law" of inertia is simple, everyone experience that on their daily life. When you are inside a bus if you lunch a ball in away from you on the same direct of the bus is going, the ball goes away from you and doesn't come back. That's because the speed of the ball is the speed of the bus in the very same moment you lunch the ball

[5/19, 2:51 PM] Alex From Venice: Rules of perspective are also observable in everyone experience... airplanes far in the sky seems to move very little even they travel at speed of 600 miles per hours

[5/19, 7:51 PM] Winston Wu: Are u saying that while astronauts are in space they are moving with the earth at 67,000mph? Lol. Even if they are floating to the moon? Lol.

How far out in space do you have to go before u can see the earth speeding by at 67,000mph? Lol.

[5/19, 7:52 PM] Winston Wu: Yeah but if u are outside the bus and it is moving fast u can see it drive by you. But not the earth moving at 67,000mph? Lol

[gsjackson]

Alexs reply to my questions about the movement of the earth.

[5/19, 1:39 PM] Alex From Venice: Those are very well explained by basic physics bro. When astronauts departs from earth they are travelling at the same speed of earth... even if they leave earth, they'll still keep travelling at same speed due to the so called inertia

[5/19, 1:41 PM] Alex From Venice: stars are so distant from earth that earth movement isn't enough to cause a change in perspective

[5/19, 1:42 PM] Alex From Venice: the thing is that earth keeps its rotation axis always parallel to itself so that the angular position of the stars relative to earth north pole is always the same

[5/19, 1:56 PM] Winston Wu: But isn't that just a theory and words? Its never been proven or demonstrated right?

[5/19, 2:49 PM] Alex From Venice: Well... it's demonstrated by the satellites that orbits around the earth... and the "law" of inertia is simple, everyone experience that on their daily life. When you are inside a bus if you lunch a ball in away from you on the same direct of the bus is going, the ball goes away from you and doesn't come back. That's because the speed of the ball is the speed of the bus in the very same moment you lunch the ball

[5/19, 2:51 PM] Alex From Venice: Rules of perspective are also observable in everyone experience... airplanes far in the sky seems to move very little even they travel at speed of 600 miles per hours

[5/19, 7:51 PM] Winston Wu: Are u saying that while astronauts are in space they are moving with the earth at 67,000mph? Lol. Even if they are floating to the moon? Lol.

How far out in space do you have to go before u can see the earth speeding by at 67,000mph? Lol.

[5/19, 7:52 PM] Winston Wu: Yeah but if u are outside the bus and it is moving fast u can see it drive by you. But not the earth moving at 67,000mph? Lol

Ask him how fast the astronauts are going when they step outside the space station to take a little walk. Are they going 17,000 mph along with the space station, or does it just park and wait for them?

[Neo]

Ask him how fast the astronauts are going when they step outside the space station to take a little walk. Are they going 17,000 mph along with the space station, or does it just park and wait for them?

I wonder. If a stunt-person is riding on the top of a train or bus, and if he jumps straight up into the air, will he necessarily always land back down on the moving vehicle? Or is there a significant chance that the vehicle will not be under him when he lands?

Likewise, if a man opens the sunroof of a moving vehicle, if he tosses a ball up in the air high enough, will it fall back down into his hand for him to catch it? At what point is the synchronicity of their inertia lost, and then both objects are no longer linked together? Is it simply a matter of distance?

My guess is, that probably once the smaller object is outside of the vehicle (the larger object), the synchronicity of movement or the transfer of inertia from the larger object to the smaller object is lost. To maintain inertia, the smaller object would have to be inside of the larger. Once outside of the vehicle (the larger object), anything can happen to the smaller object.

Yes, instead of gravity, I call this property of objects "protection."

[Moretorque]

I posted this before, radar proves the earth is round. Also cruise missiles and why they were built proves this as well... Lots of other things prove this as well, I do not understand how this can go for 75 pages...

I think our rulers created this possibly as a marker to see just how effective their dumbing down has worked...