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November 4th, 2022, 2:43 pm
The various polytheistic religions are brutal and immoral. Most of us are more familiar with the Grecco-Roman stories. Let's take stories about the Greek mythology for example. They do stuff like eating their children, chopping their dad's private parts off. The stories tell of how Zeus runs around committing adultery. There are stories about he and others, like Poseiden, raping females--humans or goddesses. Then there are the stories of mean Hera persecuting Zeus' bastards and making their lives hard.

And Greek paganism was divorced from morality. Thieves would worship Hermes. Stealing had its own place in the religion. So did trickery and such. Dionysus was associated with drunkenness and sex orgies.

Middle eastern polytheistic religion may have been just as bad or worse. There is evidence of large-scale sacrifice of children to Canaanite religion. Mayan and Aztec polytheism was brutal also. Aztecs are well known for tearing the hearts out of their human sacrifice victims. The Spanish said they sold the meat in the market.
It's funny that Jew-loving christards like to point the finger at the atrocities and morally questionable practices of other religions of antiquity but conveniently turn a blind eye to the bloodthirsty atrocities of Yahweh and the Israelites as well as the bizarre and batshit crazy elements of ancient Judaism which, as anybody who has read the Bible knows, are quite numerous. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that page after page of the Old Testament is full of descriptions of murder, bloodshed and gruesome animal sacrifices followed by prophecies of death and destruction. The Hebrew Bible reads like the diary of the psychotic fantasies of a psychopath. But christards think that it's okay because it all comes from the Jews. :roll:

But I don't have to defend the immoralities of the Pagan religions of the Greeks, Canaanites or Aztecs because I don't subscribe to those religions anyway. What we know as Greek mythology was a relatively late development in the known history of religion. So was the Canaanite religion. All of those Pagan religions which you mentioned developed long after the expulsion of the original Gentile gods at the hands of Yahweh's faction. Even the considerably older Sumerian religion emerged after the fact. So those Pagan mythologies of the Greeks and such - and let's be clear that even I think that many elements of them sound largely ridiculous - consisted primarily of stories of men passed down in increasingly distorted forms. Or alternatively and not mutually exclusively, those same Pagan religions could have been influenced by Yahweh's deceptive angels (demons) in order to throw the Gentile world into confusion and slander our exiled gods and goddesses in their absence. I for one believe that practically all religions that have emerged in the Kali Yuga following the exile of Enki's faction are all corrupt and distorted if not outright deceptions created by negative entities allied with the enemy.

I don't follow any particular religion or mythology because I believe that all purported holy books and theologies are manmade and reflect a particular ideology, even if they may contain some element of truth. Instead, I believe that mere traces of an ancient conflict between two opposing factions of extraterrestrial/otherworldly beings exist in the various mythologies of the Near East from the Bible and Jewish apocrypha to the Sumerian and Akkadian texts and that some of the stories have even made their way into other mythologies such as the Greek story of Prometheus. Having studied all of the known mythological materials - and not just the Bible as most Christians do -, I've come to the conclusion that Enki and the old gods of the Gentiles are in reality the good guys and that the psychopathic Jewish god Yahweh and his angels are our adversaries. The Bible is simply the propaganda version from the evil faction. Its purpose is to slander and delegitimize our original gods, falsely elevate the demonic impostor Yahweh as cosmic creator and establish the Jews as his chosen people. The Abrahamic religions created by those beings were designed for the spiritual enslavement of the Gentiles.

Most people don't even consider this possibility. They simply assume that Yahweh and Judeo-Christian religion or Islam are the good side just because the Bible or the Koran says so, even though all of those religions are full of evil and disturbing teachings and use fear and guilt to manipulate people.
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If you think YHWH beat other gods, why would you want to serve these other gods, the losers? Why would you want to be a part of the loser religion in your own worldview.
Because some of us actually have moral principles and loyalty and prefer not to worship a sick psychopathic impostor god just because he ousted others by military force. Nor will we submit to him or his slave religions just because of his threats either. I think that many people only believe in Christianity because they fear the threats of hellfire and damnation anyway. What a perverse religion of psychological abuse that that douchebag god has created. :shock: :(

But your argument here is quite disturbing. Would it be right to serve Stalin just because he defeated all of the other potential Soviet leaders in the purges? Bowing down to a dictator just because he's powerful and militarily successful is just messed up and a manifestation of cowardice. True Gentile souls are not cowards but I think that many Christians are.

Enki and the Gentile gods seem to have been exiled from the Earth but not thoroughly defeated. Even the Book of Revelation recognizes that the Dragon/Ancient Serpent will return in the "end times". The war might not be over yet. Yahweh tells the nations that he and his angels will win but the Book of Revelation is just part of his own propaganda book and not set in stone, no matter how all-powerful he wants people to believe him to be. Moreover, I don't believe that Yahweh's matrix (the Earth and its astral plane) are inescapable. I suspect that strong and evolved souls are able to escape Yahweh's matrix if they have enough awareness.
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November 4th, 2022, 2:43 pm
You are also wrong about the idea that YHWH wants Jews to destroy Gentiles. The plan is for all nations to be blessed through Abraham.
That's what Jew-loving suckers like you have been led to think! :lol:

In reality the Torah, Navi'im (prophecy books), Talmud and Kabbalah are full of Jewish supremacism and anti-Gentile racism as well as a Jewish plan to subjugate all of the Gentile nations to Jerusalem. The Hebrew Bible is just a blueprint for Jewish world domination and the enslavement and destruction of the Gentiles. It's just that delusional Christians and especially Evangelical Zionists don't see this because they have their heads lodged so far up their asses with their Jewish hoax slave religion bullshit and biblical brainwashing. Some Christians say that it's not the Torah, it's just the Talmud and the Kabbalah, but that's not true at all. The Torah is the root of all of this perverse Jewish anti-Gentilism and is just as evil as the Talmud and the Kabbalah. I've researched this myself and have found the teachings of the Torah to be just as bad. In fact, I even made a thread about it with many well-researched videos which expose the Jewish supremacist, anti-Gentile Torah cult as well as Kabbalistic doctrines:

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But, of course, naïve Christians have been so conditioned by the Jesus cult and the kosher Judaic worldview that they are unable to understand the evil program against them and will simply bow down to Israel and the Jews like good slaves and with Stockholm syndrome.
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Connecting all this to alien astronauts makes no sense. You get that from TV and the movies and online streaming shows.
What you say isn't true. I have developed my ideas from years of researching ancient mythologies/religions and occultism. I've even studied the Bible and apocrypha. I don't care for TV shows like Ancient Aliens or authors like Zecharia Sitchin.

I said previously that I believe that the ancient writings reveal the presence of two opposing factions of extraterrestrial/otherworldly beings. I didn't claim to know their exact nature, although I would assume that they have physical bodies from the ancient stories that I've read of them. I don't see how it really matters whether they are how we imagine extraterrestrials to be or whether they are something else. All of the quibbling in this thread concerning whether they are aliens or gods/angels or whatnot isn't that important to me. Words like alien, god, angel, etc. are merely human terms anyway.

I've looked into various religions, mythologies and philosophies. What about you, MrMan? Have you seriously studied other religions? Ever tried to look at things from any other perspective?
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I'll comment briefly on some of your posts. The Canaanites were wicked. YHWH was righteous in telling the people of Israel to wipe them out.

I'm trying to figure out why you believe/think the way you do. What reason is there to think the Enki is all the stuff you say he is, to associate him with being the same as Shiva the destroyer? In one of the myths, Enki had a man offer a sacrifice to the gods...which you seem to have a problem with. I don't have a problem with slaughtering animals. Animal sacrifices underwent ritual slaughter.

You are also drawing on some old and, to moderns, somewhat obscure mythology. It could be the religious practices associated with Enki could be somewhat brutal like later Canaanite rituals.

What reason do you have to think this story like about YHWH defeating Enki is real? Isn't it foolish of you to speak ill of God if you believe He defeated these weaker gods you follow? What reason is there for you to think anything is immoral at all?

If you are just putting pieces of the puzzle together, your conclusions don't seem rational. Did this spirit that called itself Shiva tell you all this stuff?

And what does all this stuff have to do with space aliens?
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@Pixel--Dude and @Lucas88, holy !@#$ this is awesome stuff you've posted, I've only had time to skim it so far (f-ing SQL errors kept me away earlier today when I was hoping to do another HA binge starting earlier), but I need to catch up with you on all this and also the "Esoteric Side of The Jews" thread and get back here before the next time I get pulled back into the Bermuda Triangle, LOL.
I have a date tomorrow but will try to get back on this while I'm resting during the holidays. Meanwhile, THANK YOU!

You might already know way more than me but I can probably contribute something. I ought to start blogging this kind of stuff since I've put so much time into it over the years :lol: ....
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CaptainSkelebob wrote:
October 2nd, 2022, 12:09 pm
So......
Aliens are smart enough to build ships that can move billions of lightyears across space to pile rocks on top of each other??? :roll:
Cmon PD.....
If the pyramids had sliding doors and air conditioning inside these tombs then maybe I would be on board :lol: :lol: :lol:
How do you know aliens or interdimensional beings, travel thousands of light years to get here? There's no proof that stars are suns that are thousands of light years away. Can you go up to the stars or dome ceiling and verify it? No you can't. What this means is that aliens could be from just above the sky dome, under or inside the Earth, or slipping between dimensions, etc. Why are you so narrow? You make assumptions that aren't founded.

Watch that interview I posted with William Michael Mott where he gives some compelling reasons why aliens come from inside the Earth. It's fascinating.

Also, see the 90 minute Ancient Aliens special where William Shatner sits down with the team of researchers and they go over the evidence for ancient aliens one by one. It's very compelling and makes a strong case if you look at the big picture, not just one thing.
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Winston wrote:
December 12th, 2022, 5:30 am
Also, see the 90 minute Ancient Aliens special where William Shatner sits down with the team of researchers and they go over the evidence for ancient aliens one by one. It's very compelling and makes a strong case if you look at the big picture, not just one thing.
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Was this the Ancient Aliens special you were referring to?
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WilliamSmith wrote:
December 12th, 2022, 6:20 am
Winston wrote:
December 12th, 2022, 5:30 am
Also, see the 90 minute Ancient Aliens special where William Shatner sits down with the team of researchers and they go over the evidence for ancient aliens one by one. It's very compelling and makes a strong case if you look at the big picture, not just one thing.
@Winston
Was this the Ancient Aliens special you were referring to?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13854274/
Yes that's the one. It's very good and worth seeing. The Ancient Aliens panel go over the evidence one by one. Each evidence is compelling but not ultimate proof. However when you add up all the many proofs that they present cumulatively, it does present a very strong compelling case. Shatner even admitted that at the end of the episode and said he was more open minded to it. I think he was already a believer in ancient aliens and was just pretending to be a skeptic and devil's advocate in order to generate some dialogue.
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Winston wrote:
December 12th, 2022, 7:30 pm
WilliamSmith wrote:
December 12th, 2022, 6:20 am
Winston wrote:
December 12th, 2022, 5:30 am
Also, see the 90 minute Ancient Aliens special where William Shatner sits down with the team of researchers and they go over the evidence for ancient aliens one by one. It's very compelling and makes a strong case if you look at the big picture, not just one thing.
@Winston
Was this the Ancient Aliens special you were referring to?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13854274/
Yes that's the one. It's very good and worth seeing. The Ancient Aliens panel go over the evidence one by one. Each evidence is compelling but not ultimate proof. However when you add up all the many proofs that they present cumulatively, it does present a very strong compelling case. Shatner even admitted that at the end of the episode and said he was more open minded to it. I think he was already a believer in ancient aliens and was just pretending to be a skeptic and devil's advocate in order to generate some dialogue.
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Thank you very much! My girlfriend and I have actually collected about the first 11 boxed DVD sets of Ancient Aliens (LOL) but I haven't got further, so I am looking forward to it! I've always liked William Shatner by gut instinct, heheh. :lol:
But I was actually fascinated by the ancient aliens hypothesis for decades:
I originally got suspicions of my own from reading the old-time religious literature and feeling like I was practically reading direct sci-fi talking about genetically engineered beings and extraterrestial flying craft.
Those more subjective hunches got supplanted by a lot of the early paperback reprints of old Erich Von Daniken books, at a library book sale even before the internet existed in the PNW rural town I lived in at that time as a teen high school dropout, LOL. I read many research books besides his too, and the information and evidence stands on its own regardless of who presents is: So MrMan's illogical, irritating and thoroughly unintelligent straw man arguments attempting to merely dismiss the hypothesis and voluminous evidence (which doesn't prove the hypothesis, but supports it) by smearing it as a cult attached to one Tv series or other or one author or another hold no weight whatsoever. :)

The books I read about it have made me aware of many ancient wonders unexplainable by contemporary science and technology, and totally uncanny unexplainable astronomical knowledge of multiple different groups of indigenous people all over the world whose own tradition claims they were taught this and many other things by "star people," "men from the stars," or similar, and also astounding evidence that seem to directly describe extraterrestrials throughout history in cultures all over the world, not merely since "UFO" concepts became popular in entertainment media in much more recent times (e.g. maybe around the 1950s or so).

@Winston, how long have you been aware of and interested in the ancient aliens hypothesis?

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I'm curious about your take on this as well. How long have each of you been aware of and interested in the ancient aliens concept? Where'd you first hear about it?
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WilliamSmith wrote:
December 12th, 2022, 7:53 pm
@Lucas88
@Pixel--dude
I'm curious about your take on this as well. How long have each of you been aware of and interested in the ancient aliens concept? Where'd you first hear about it?
I first became aware of the ancient alien hypothesis in the mid 2000s shortly after attending a 10th Planet Jiujitsu seminar with the school's founder the legendary Eddie Bravo. That's right, I met Eddie myself when I was a teenage Jiujitsu student. At the seminar I fell in love with Eddie's unique style of no-gi grappling and started to buy his books and DVDs and browse his website. On the website I often came across references to "Nibiru" and always wondered what it meant. One day I decided to do a google search for the term and before long I discovered a trove of information about the Sumerian texts which were supposed to be even older than the Bible (and on which the biblical Genesis story was based) and their stories of an ancient godlike extraterrestrial race known as the Anunnaki which was said to have come from the heavens above and created the first humans through genetic engineering. Nibiru was supposed to be their distant home planet according to the theories of one such Zecharia Sitchin. Needless to say, my fascination was such that I spent days sitting at the computer and obsessively reading through all of that fascinating material. I remember enthusiastically telling my mother and other family members about everything that I had learned about our species' mysterious origins. You could say that I learned about the ancient alien hypothesis thanks to Eddie Bravo. I looked into it! :lol:

However, after a while the fascination died down and I went back to focusing on practical and mundane things like college, Jiujitsu, languages, etc. I didn't give the topic much thought for a good few years. I was still just a teenager and hadn't become a truth seeker yet.

In the very early 2010s I became strongly interested in spirituality and things of a more transcendental nature and ended up getting roped into organized religion for a brief while. Organized religion is the least best place to find spirituality and transcendence but they suckered me in when I was at a low point in my life. Nevertheless, since I am a true Gentile soul, I always perceived that something was "off" about organized religion and that its teachings and energy were somehow alien to the nature of my soul. In 2012 I began to question a lot of things and eventually awoke from the Jewish hoax slave religion deception and quickly got out of dodge. My whole philosophical framework was shattered and I began to obsessively read about philosophy, spirituality, esotericism, etc. in search of answers.

The next year I started to feel an inexplicable desire to search for Enki. I already had some knowledge about the Sumerian texts and the story of the Anunnaki and Enki as the true identity of the Serpent in the Bible and as humanity's true creator and benefactor, but I only knew about the very basics. Yet I continued to feel this irresistible urge to research Enki and his story. And guess what? So did @Pixel--Dude. At roughly the same time, Pixel--Dude started to become interested in the same topic and we would even do research together. After some research, I came across a website called www.loveenki.com which told Enki's story and his noble struggle against Yahweh's tyranny in depth and even taught much practical spiritual knowledge concerning meditation, Yoga, mantras, etc. for the evolution of the soul. Loveenki explained that the true purpose of spirituality is our evolution towards godhood through the ascension of the Kundalini and the Opus Magnum but that this spiritual knowledge was suppressed by Yahweh and the obnoxious religions which want to enslave us. Everything was beginning to make sense.

Naturally, I didn't just accept any of this point blank. As an inquisitive soul, I did a lot of my own independent research into the Sumerian texts and other ancient mythologies and found that much of what Loveenki was talking about was substantiated in those materials. Not only that, I also discovered that much of Zecharia Sitchin's account about the Anunnaki as a race from a 12th planet called "Nibiru" was purely an invention of his own. Indeed, Sitchin frequently mixed together true accounts found in the actual Sumerian texts with pure fantasy. It turns out that Sitchin was a Jewish disinfo agent (a known Freemason too) and I suspect that his whole game was to make the Sumerian creation story look as ridiculous and unbelievable as possible and thereby discredit it. I therefore realized that the Nibiru story was all bunk. In reality Nibiru is barely mentioned in the actual texts and was certainly never a moribund planet with an elliptical orbit. The Sumerian texts generally say that the gods came down from the sky without specifying their exact origin, but my research into various mythologies has led me to believe that they originate from Orion.

I believe that Pixel--Dude and I were simply heard Enki's call. We are both true Gentile souls and therefore naturally intuit that the mainstream religions are a hoax and feel drawn to the spiritual path of our true father. We are noble warriors in this war. We want nothing more than to fight against the Jewish impostor god Yahweh and his nefarious New World Order. The Jewish impostor god Yahweh has taken over the Earth and subjugated Enki's children, us, the true Gentile souls. The NWO simply consists of his earthly foot soldiers. Pixel--Dude and I are noble Gentile souls. We are determined to fight back. We also know who on this forum are fellow true Gentile souls!
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@Winston, how long have you been aware of and interested in the ancient aliens hypothesis?
I heard about the ancient alien hypothesis when I was a kid and reading some of Erich von Daniken's books like "Chariots of the Gods". It presented some interesting arguments about the pyramids and the stones on Easter Island. However there wasn't as much evidence for it as there is now on the History Channel series and scores of YouTube videos about it like that channel called "The 5th Kind".
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