Why does God Have to Be Perfect & All Good? Why Can't He Be Part Evil or Imperfect Like His Creation?

[88jose88]

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[Winston]

Tony Sayers, a spiritual counselor from the UK, talks below in this video on Rumble about why God is evil and demands worship. What do you think @Pixel--Dude and @Lucas88?

https://rumble.com/v2t5znk-why-god-is-a ... atrix.html

His website: https://transcendingtimes.org/

Comments I posted under his video:

WWu777
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Tony, another way of looking at it is that God is like a movie director, who creates good and bad characters in the movie to carry the plot along, otherwise there's no story and no movie to watch. So God would create both good and evil deliberately, not as a mistake. Because a movie needs good and bad guys for there to be a story, same as in this matrix. Also the friction between good and evil creates energy for the matrix, similar to how a battery has a plus and minus side, and how the battery in your car and phone mixes two chemicals to create friction to get power. Do you see my point? It makes sense if you think about it. The Bible even has a verse in Isaiah that says "The Lord creates good and evil". You can look it up.

WWu777
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I just emailed you Tony. Hope you can reply sometime! We have some things in common. Winston

WWu777
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Good point Tony. A perfect all powerful God doesn't need worship. He is complete. Only a parasite needs worship energy, one that deceives you and tricks you and gets you to blame yourself for everything because of Adam and Eve's little mistake. Glad you are awake!

WWu777
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Hey Tony, I saw you on the podcast with Chad too! Great interview. I agree with you. An evil or semi-evil deity running this matrix makes 100000 percent more sense and fits the world we see here, than a perfect all good God that Christians imagine. There's no comparison! I don't get why most people don't get that. It's obvious if you think about it.

[vlkmo]

I wonder why God continues to allow bad elites to rule over everybody else and continue to plunder everyone. I mean when is it going to be the point where he says "enough is enough"?

[Winston]

Eric Dubay the flat earther makes some good arguments in these two videos about how God gaslights us in the Abrahamic religions and therefore cannot be all good as we've been told. He also says that New Age gaslights us too by telling us that we created it all and therefore we are to blame for everything, which makes no sense either. What do you think @Pixel--Dude and @Lucas88?

Gaslighting is a type of psychological manipulation in which an abuser attempts to gain power and control over another by sowing seeds of self-doubt and confusion, deliberately and systematically feeding false information, intentionally distorting reality and coercing the victim into constantly questioning themselves. The term originally derived from the 1944 film Gaslight in which a woman’s abusive husband slowly twists and shapes her reality until she believes she must be going insane. In many ways this parallels the metaphysical plight of the human condition, the constant confusion, contradictions and confounding nature of this realm...

One of the most widespread beliefs, found in nearly all religions and spiritual systems, is that we live in a wonderful world, designed by a benevolent designer, created by a wholly loving and perfect monotheistic Creator. The Universe is seen as a University, a material dimension where we can manifest our desires, learn lessons, gather information and experience, grow and evolve into something better and later go somewhere better. By developing our karma, living in accordance with certain commandments, or by having enough faith, we are promised immortality in a heavenly afterlife realm with other perfected spiritual beings. Generally accompanying these claims is the further belief that those who don’t manifest their desires, refuse to learn lessons, fail to develop their karma, live out of accordance with commandments, or don’t have enough faith, are condemned to nearly endless reincarnations, or worse yet, to spend eternity in hell...

Additional thoughts:

It's obvious that whoever created this matrix is unjust and imperfect. But we are taught to blame Adam and Eve for everything which makes no sense and seems like a scam to get us to blame ourselves for no just reason.

God must have created good and evil the same way a movie director puts heros and villains into their movie, to move the story forward. Even the Bible in the book of Isaiah says that the Lord creates good and evil. Look it up.

Why would God demand perfection to get into heaven? Isn't that unreasonable and impossible and therefore totally unjust and unfair? Nothing in Christianity make sense and it tries to get you to blame yourself for everything which is gaslighting and victim blaming.

[Pixel--Dude]

Eric Dubay the flat earther makes some good arguments in these two videos about how God gaslights us in the Abrahamic religions and therefore cannot be all good as we've been told. He also says that New Age gaslights us too by telling us that we created it all and therefore we are to blame for everything, which makes no sense either. What do you think @Pixel--Dude and @Lucas88?

Gaslighting is a type of psychological manipulation in which an abuser attempts to gain power and control over another by sowing seeds of self-doubt and confusion, deliberately and systematically feeding false information, intentionally distorting reality and coercing the victim into constantly questioning themselves. The term originally derived from the 1944 film Gaslight in which a woman’s abusive husband slowly twists and shapes her reality until she believes she must be going insane. In many ways this parallels the metaphysical plight of the human condition, the constant confusion, contradictions and confounding nature of this realm...

One of the most widespread beliefs, found in nearly all religions and spiritual systems, is that we live in a wonderful world, designed by a benevolent designer, created by a wholly loving and perfect monotheistic Creator. The Universe is seen as a University, a material dimension where we can manifest our desires, learn lessons, gather information and experience, grow and evolve into something better and later go somewhere better. By developing our karma, living in accordance with certain commandments, or by having enough faith, we are promised immortality in a heavenly afterlife realm with other perfected spiritual beings. Generally accompanying these claims is the further belief that those who don’t manifest their desires, refuse to learn lessons, fail to develop their karma, live out of accordance with commandments, or don’t have enough faith, are condemned to nearly endless reincarnations, or worse yet, to spend eternity in hell...

Additional thoughts:

It's obvious that whoever created this matrix is unjust and imperfect. But we are taught to blame Adam and Eve for everything which makes no sense and seems like a scam to get us to blame ourselves for no just reason.

God must have created good and evil the same way a movie director puts heros and villains into their movie, to move the story forward. Even the Bible in the book of Isaiah says that the Lord creates good and evil. Look it up.

Why would God demand perfection to get into heaven? Isn't that unreasonable and impossible and therefore totally unjust and unfair? Nothing in Christianity make sense and it tries to get you to blame yourself for everything which is gaslighting and victim blaming.

These were some interesting videos, Winston. I quite like Eric Dubay's interpretation of things, although he does have a proclivity to the negative. What do you think of these videos @gsjackson? It would also be interesting to hear the perspective of @MrMan on the video of god gaslighting us. I don't always agree with everything Eric Dubay says, even if I enjoy his content, but he's bang on the money with his analysis of Christianity.

As for the New Age interpretation of reality I also think he has some good points about how it makes no sense in Hinduism and other Eastern religions and the New Age, which is just further indoctrination for a modern audience, that this is kind of like a school where we have to pay off karmic debts.

All these religions have the common theme that we are wrong for existing in some way, they also moralise behaviours and make people feel guilty for enjoying sex for example or material things. Similar to atheism which teaches we are all worthless accidents. All of these belief systems all have toxic messages blended with some good stuff to hold the belief of people.

I do believe in a creator, I believe in intelligent design, and I also believe in fundamental purpose. Yes, there is evil and suffering in the world. But most of this comes from a toxic system we are all enslaved by. Contrary to what Eric Dubay claims, I do think the pleasures in life counter the suffering. His argument of having an hour of the most pleasurable thing you can think of like a banquet or a good shag compared to an hour of agonising torture isn't a good argument. In your lifetime how likely are you to have a good meal or a shag and how likely are you to experience argonising torture? The most agonising thing I've ever experienced is a doctor's finger up my ass and he didn't even buy me a drink first!

Also the same argument he makes about animals eating each other is the same. Nature is a delicate balance and it needs to be that way to work. Instead of seeing carnivores as something evil because they need to eat the flesh of other animals to survive, carnivores should be seen as a necessary part of nature to maintain the equilibrium and balance which makes nature work. If there were no carnivores then the herbivores would eat all the plant life and eventually starve to death as they breed and eat unchecked by carnivorous predators.

The way I conceive of God as an imperfect creator which transcends notions of good and evil stands in contrast with the abrahamic god who claims perfection and claims to be all loving and all good, yet creates evil. I think God is a transcendental supreme consciousness which is experimental and dualistic. That's the only conception of a supreme being that makes sense. It doesn't conform to simplistic moralistic notions. And such a god wouldn't create a world to make us suffer for its own entertainment. Most of the suffering today is brought about by toxic people who run a toxic system and make life difficult.