Invasion of the Body Snatchers

[galii]

I am not a big fan of Christianity but it might be better than primitive tribalism. So it depends what you compare it with.

[WanderingProtagonist]

Well now Satanism is targeting them, I believe I posted a thread about that on here.

[Lucas88]

It's very difficult to believe that such absurd people exist. But the problem is that a real invasion of the bodysnatchers happened and we are just so used to it now that it isn't a science fiction horror story, but a real life phenomenon. It turned people who would have been good into moral monsters when they were young children. It's a venomous seed that was planted when the victims are young and impressionable. Their innocence is taken from them and they are brainwashed by the ideology. They become a pod person who believes your never-ending torture and destruction is 100% moral and acceptable.

It's no surprise that Christianity has always promoted the idea that anybody who doesn't accept its Messiah should be tortured and destroyed. It was born out of the same lineage as the deeply hostile and misanthropic tribal religion of Judaism, after all.

Judaism and all of its descendants are nothing more than perverse death cults. The basic formula is always the same -- an assertion that all those who don't follow their own envisioned "one true god", "one Messiah" and "one revelation" are invariably evil and unrighteous and therefore must be destroyed. Judaism started this trend with the notion that Israel alone is holy and that all other nations are dirty and impure and will eventually be blotted out by Yahweh. This was further elaborated in the Kabbalah with the recurrent teaching that the souls of non-Jews originate from the Qliphoth of the dark side of creation and must therefore be pushed further down into the Qliphothic abyss and then annihilated for the "rectification of the world" (i.e., Tikkun Olam) and a restauration of holiness (Kedusha).

Christianity and Islam merely constitute variations of the same theme. The former teaches that all are born evil and that those who don't believe in Jesus' blood sacrifice (yes, Christianity is at its core a blood sacrifice cult ) will be cast into hell for their supposed evil nature and unatoned state while the latter threatens all kuffar with eternal torture in Jahannam. Moreover, like their genocidal predecessor Judaism, both of these religions envision an apocalyptic war and complete destruction of the nations in the so-called end times and view these prophesized events as necessary for god's plan of salvation. It should be obvious that we are dealing with three very destructive and utterly deranged death cults which appear as though they were created by a batshit-crazy demon enamored with chaos and ruination rather than any benevolent and transcendental creator god.

Reading the Old Testament, it becomes clear that its authors were the prophets of a people largely composed of sociopathic criminals, schizophrenics with narcissistic delusions of grandeur and revenge fantasies, lowborn crooks and fraudsters, and other bottom-of-the-barrel trash despised by all civilized nations yet who at the same time feel the need to tell the whole world that they alone are the epitome of holiness and that everyone else is somehow evil and unholy (i.e., the eternal Jew).

If we really think about it, Christian fundamentalists are a near-perfect reflection of the above description. Please note that here I'm talking specifically about crazed fundies who believe in the Bible to the foot of the letter (i.e., true Christians), not the nice and friendly but biblically illiterate moderate Christian who you talk to at your local sports club or community center or wherever.

Christian fundamentalists are evil degenerates. They unapologetically follow a grotesque blood sacrifice cult and then mercilessly gaslight anybody who doesn't want to participate in the same cultic degeneracy by accusing them of rejecting "god's plan of salvation" and telling them that they're "unsaved", unconditionally support the eternal condemnation and destruction of all non-Christians even if those people include their own children and relatives, exalt a book chock-full of the worst massacres, atrocities and acts of cruelty (including infanticide!!! ) as the basis of their own "moral compass", worship a god or Jewish cacodemon who is a textbook case of psychopathy and bloodthirstiness, and then slander and insult anybody who doesn't believe in their collective insanity. Moreover, many of them today shill hard for Zionist warmongers and the State of Israel just because "muh prophecies". Christian fundamentalists are objectively vile and low-vibrational and comprise some of the worst moral degenerates, borderline sociopaths and absolute headcases yet still with a straight face call themselves "righteous". LMAO!

I agree with your pod people analogy and think that it describes Christian fundamentalists perfectly. I myself regard such people as scumbags on par with some of the worst convicted criminals. The world would certainly be a better place without them.

[WanderingProtagonist]

I am not a big fan of Christianity but it might be better than primitive tribalism. So it depends what you compare it with.

There isn't much difference between Christianity and primitive tribalism. They're both one and the same. Christians have this "If you're not with us you're against us" mentality. They're total degenerate tribalists

Not only that but they're total hypocrites and illogical fools. For example they believe that someone deserves to be tortured forever or destroyed by Yahweh unless they accept Jesus Christ, but at the same time promote Christianity as a religion based on unconditional love and forgiveness.

I admit that I find most Christians tiresome. No matter how much evidence you present to the contrary, no matter how many atrocities you share with them, which they conveniently never talk about in the Bible, they just make excuses for all of it.

Well now Satanism is targeting them, I believe I posted a thread about that on here.

I don't think I've seen this, but I'd give it a read if you have the link. What would our own resident Satanist think? I'm not going to tag him here because he just strikes me as an asshole who is gaslighting people.

I haven't heard of Satanism being taught in schools or pushed on young children if I'm honest with you. This tends to be more of a Christian modus operandi because the religion promotes passive servile to authority and also weakness, both perfectly aligned with the global elite's goals.

It's no surprise that Christianity has always promoted the idea that anybody who doesn't accept its Messiah should be tortured and destroyed. It was born out of the same lineage as the deeply hostile and misanthropic tribal religion of Judaism, after all.

Judaism and all of its descendants are nothing more than perverse death cults. The basic formula is always the same -- an assertion that all those who don't follow their own envisioned "one true god", "one Messiah" and "one revelation" are invariably evil and unrighteous and therefore must be destroyed. Judaism started this trend with the notion that Israel alone is holy and that all other nations are dirty and impure and will eventually be blotted out by Yahweh. This was further elaborated in the Kabbalah with the recurrent teaching that the souls of non-Jews originate from the Qliphoth of the dark side of creation and must therefore be pushed further down into the Qliphothic abyss and then annihilated for the "rectification of the world" (i.e., Tikkun Olam) and a restauration of holiness (Kedusha).

I agree with you. It's also very convenient that the Jews are proclaimed as God's chosen people. I think this fact is very telling about who the true authors of the Bible truly are. I wonder how Christians who believe in the New Testament reconcile the fact that they believe in a death cult when presented with evidence from the Old Testament and the Kabbalah

What do you think @MrMan? You're probably the last Christian standing on this forum. @Outcast9428 is off chasing his dreams and getting married and @Cornfed through a tantrum and hasn't been back since. Why do you support a religion that was clearly written by the Jews to enslave Gentile minds to the hivemind of Christianity? Why do you ignore evidence that this is a toxic and evil religion? You criticise other people's beliefs but when evidence is presented against your own you fall silent. How can you address the points brought up by Lucas and myself?

Christianity and Islam merely constitute variations of the same theme. The former teaches that all are born evil and that those who don't believe in Jesus' blood sacrifice (yes, Christianity is at its core a blood sacrifice cult ) will be cast into hell for their supposed evil nature and unatoned state while the latter threatens all kuffar with eternal torture in Jahannam. Moreover, like their genocidal predecessor Judaism, both of these religions envision an apocalyptic war and complete destruction of the nations in the so-called end times and view these prophesized events as necessary for god's plan of salvation. It should be obvious that we are dealing with three very destructive and utterly deranged death cults which appear as though they were created by a batshit-crazy demon enamored with chaos and ruination rather than any benevolent and transcendental creator god.

What's also funny about this is that I have read the Bible and also because I have a friend who is dating a Muslim chick I read some of the Quran one time during a visit. Honestly dude if you put the two books side by side you wouldn't even tell the difference

Most Christians scoff at Islam and believe it is a religion of barbarity, when these same idiots would be smashing down your front door and burning you at stake as a heretic. The only reason that they don't is because Christianity has been declawed. If we lived in a Christian theocracy I think we'd see witch hunt trials make a reappearance.

I think all three of these Abrahamic toxic death cults should be eradicated from the face of the earth and their memory should be long forgotten. They offer nothing constructive. They don't offer a feeling of hope or comfort people with the notion of life after death. Instead, what they offer is living a lifetime of servitude in fear of being brutally tortured forever. Or alternatively you can spend eternity as a mindless drone worshipping God forever.

Reading the Old Testament, it becomes clear that its authors were the prophets of a people largely composed of sociopathic criminals, schizophrenics with narcissistic delusions of grandeur and revenge fantasies, lowborn crooks and fraudsters, and other bottom-of-the-barrel trash despised by all civilized nations yet who at the same time feel the need to tell the whole world that they alone are the epitome of holiness and that everyone else is somehow evil and unholy (i.e., the eternal Jew).

If we really think about it, Christian fundamentalists are a near-perfect reflection of the above description. Please note that here I'm talking specifically about crazed fundies who believe in the Bible to the foot of the letter (i.e., true Christians), not the nice and friendly but biblically illiterate moderate Christian who you talk to at your local sports club or community center or wherever.

Christian fundamentalists are evil degenerates. They unapologetically follow a grotesque blood sacrifice cult and then mercilessly gaslight anybody who doesn't want to participate in the same cultic degeneracy by accusing them of rejecting "god's plan of salvation" and telling them that they're "unsaved", unconditionally support the eternal condemnation and destruction of all non-Christians even if those people include their own children and relatives, exalt a book chock-full of the worst massacres, atrocities and acts of cruelty (including infanticide!!! ) as the basis of their own "moral compass", worship a god or Jewish cacodemon who is a textbook case of psychopathy and bloodthirstiness, and then slander and insult anybody who doesn't believe in their collective insanity. Moreover, many of them today shill hard for Zionist warmongers and the State of Israel just because "muh prophecies". Christian fundamentalists are objectively vile and low-vibrational and comprise some of the worst moral degenerates, borderline sociopaths and absolute headcases yet still with a straight face call themselves "righteous". LMAO!

I agree with your pod people analogy and think that it describes Christian fundamentalists perfectly. I myself regard such people as scumbags on par with some of the worst convicted criminals. The world would certainly be a better place without them.

Hahaha the above is brilliantly put! I couldn't have put it better myself! Everything you've said here is absolutely bang on the money!

It's the same bullshit every time they are confronted on their beliefs "We can't understand God's plan" "God works in mysterious ways." Etc. Its this endless cognitive dissonance and complete ignorance of the facts, which is there in the Bible in black and white, that really pisses me off with Christians. Advocating for endless torture of their own families if they don't accept Jesus Christ, justification of horrific acts of barbarism in the Bible committed by Jews or God and finally the complete ignorance when questioned on the authenticity of the Bible and presented with solid evidence that it's merely a plagiarism of older mythological texts are just a few reasons why I've come to hate this religion and consider all its advocates simply mindless drones or podpeople.

I think what's even worse about all this, as if it wasn't bad enough, is the fact that these podpeople influence children with a young age with this shit. They indoctrinate them from childhood and replace the child and who they could've been, with another clone of the hivemind of Christianity. That's what's really f***ing nefarious about this religion. In a sense it is absolutely no different to all these LGBTQ fanatics who've gotten a foot in the door when it comes to power and government support and brainwash kids with their ideology as well. Because I bet you my left nut that if none of these ideologies were pushed onto kids at a young age we'd see a rapid decline in transgenderism, homosexuality and Christianity.

To be fair Christianity is only mainstream in Russia, everywhere else...Islam is growing. Just not in Spanish speaking countries, and certain Asian countries. But I've given up on Christianity after finding out the jews invented it to manipulate people....After that I was severely disappointed with it. My mother is hardcore believer in Christ. But I won't spew my anti-Christian at her because I don't like upsetting my mother, any time I do that I want to kick my own ass. So I just keep quiet when she talks about GOD, Jesus, etc because I never know what to say or how to respond to any of it.

[galii]

Sociologically religion is there to make society work better. Otherwise nobody would cared. Without religion we are even bigger apes. Nowadays shure many might not religion but many do. 80 IQ people , Kundalini people , Flat earthers are not easy to deal with.

[galii]

Sociologically religion is there to make society work better. Otherwise nobody would cared. Without religion we are even bigger apes. Nowadays shure many might not religion but many do. 80 IQ people , Kundalini people , Flat earthers are not easy to deal with.

When has this been the case historically? Christians and Muslims destroyed libraries and books full of ancient history and esoteric knowledge and caused us to descend into the dark ages. Abrahamic religions inspire narrow-minded group think instead of allowing people to mentally flourish and investigate things of their own accord.

As for moral framework, I think @Lucas88 and myself have presented enough evidence throughout countless threads which demonstrate the harmful ideology that these religions espouse. We do not need mainstream religion to act as a moral compass. We inherently know the difference between right and wrong. It's very easy for someone with an agenda of their own to write a religious book containing basic morals combined with rules and guidelines which support their own ideals and condemn opposing ones.

Why are kundalini people and flat earthers difficult to deal with? I thought you enjoyed talking about that kind of stuff. There's nothing wrong with people developing their own conception of the world instead of accepting one presented to them by those who hold questionable morals.

You are cherry picking history. Check out what the Jews, Christians and Muslims did for science.

You may not need mainstream religion but many people do. Besides you guys are culturally Christians that is where you got your morals from. You can't deny that.

I like to debate and mock flattards because it gives me the emotions to motivate me to look deeper. Ideally I should not need that garbage. There are 5% of flat earthers who are good at playing devils advocate but most of them are in bullshit land.
Check out this black guys platform 'Levelhead' he created a nice environment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkemaTEpPu8

The 'Kundalini' people are annoying mostly. I am shure it has some merits somewhere but overall it is bullshit. I keep an eye on the field because I like being informed roughly about what is going on and what snake oil is the newest flavour of the month.

[WanderingProtagonist]

To be fair Christianity is only mainstream in Russia, everywhere else...Islam is growing. Just not in Spanish speaking countries, and certain Asian countries. But I've given up on Christianity after finding out the jews invented it to manipulate people....After that I was severely disappointed with it. My mother is hardcore believer in Christ. But I won't spew my anti-Christian at her because I don't like upsetting my mother, any time I do that I want to kick my own ass. So I just keep quiet when she talks about GOD, Jesus, etc because I never know what to say or how to respond to any of it.

Yeah, as for myself i turned against Christianity after 2 years because it brought me no solace and didn't solve my problems. Instead it created new ones. New anxiety that I wasn't food enough to go to heaven and all the rest of it. Plus I couldn't justify the atrocities committed within the Bible either. All of this was all before I researched the Bible's origins and other religions and realised that every single one of the Abrahamic religions are just plagiarised from different ancient cultures that existed millenia before.

Like yourself, my mother is a devout Christian (she thinks I'm evil ) I try not to debate with her about Christianity. She doesn't understand most of my points and has the usual cognitive dissonance when it comes to criticism of the content within the bible.

It seems to be worse the older people get, they are terrified of dying and "going to hell." My aunt use to party hard, drink, smoke, all of that then the day she turned 50 years old she became all religious. My mother been that way since age 17, so she didn't wait until old age before deciding to devote herself to it like most people usually do.

[MrMan]

Various forms of paganism sacrificed people before Christianity became predominant. Canaanite paganism did. So did Norse paganism. Aztec pagans sacrificed them and ate them. The Romans may have thought human sacrifice was barbaric, but executed foreign leaders in front of statues of Zeus.

For example they believe that someone deserves to be tortured forever or destroyed by Yahweh unless they accept Jesus Christ, but at the same time promote Christianity as a religion based on unconditional love and forgiveness.

'Unconditional love' may be a common phrase and concept nowadays, and you can find the phrase a bit if you search back a few centuries, before the 1960s, but it isn't a term found in the Bible.

In Luke it says if a brother repents, forgive him.

[MrMan]

Mankind had knowledge of the one true God at first. Many societies have a residual knowledge of the most high God, the creator God. Over time, societies accepted idolatry and paganism.

[kangarunner]

@Winston You know what the real "bodysnatchers" is? Culture! The root word of culture is "cult".

American CULTure.

Religious CULTs

When people conform to a culture, they're under mind control by what that culture tells them.

Here in Asia, I'm set free from the mind controlled CULTure of America.

[Winston]

@Pixel--Dude

Did you see my other thread about "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"? I posted the link to watch the 1978 version of the film (which I think is the best version) from my Google Drive too. See below.

viewtopic.php?style=11&f=29&t=22736

[MrMan]

Why are most of these pod people Christians such hypocrites? How many of them actually follow the bible word for word and not just cherry pick doctrines which suits them?

@MrMan makes out he's the perfect Christian and everyone else is a sinner. But even MrMan cherry picks pieces of the Bible which he chooses to follow and which pieces he chooses to ignore.

Acts 2:44-45: "All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need."

Acts 4:34-35: "There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need."

I can't see MrMan selling his possessions to help the needy, can you @Lucas88?

I didn't say I was a perfect Christian and that everyone else was a sinner. What do you know about my personal finances? What areas of giving am I lacking in? Tell me how it could be improved or exactly how many dollars I was wasteful with.... oh, yeah, you don't have that information. And you have no clue how much I've spent or how much I've given.

Jesus taught not to let your left hand knows what your right hand does. He was talking about giving alms. So this isn't something I'd go into detail with you about either.

I will tell you I was listening to a researcher on the radio in the US, who found that conservatives gave a lot more as a percentage of income to charitable causes... ironically even to environmental causes. And conservative Christians were really big givers. He said it went along with the philosophy. Conservatives believe in individuals giving individually to charity. Liberals/Progressive want the government to tax everyone and give out the funds.

What about this one. This is a good one for you MrMan, advocate of Capitalism and supporter of exploitation.

Acts 4:32: "All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had."

Then MrMan and his ilk will be like "duuuuh, why should those who make robots share profits with scroungers who don't want to work? Muuuuh hard workism."

Exploitation? i consider what the Bolsheviks did to be horrific exploitation. The Czar had divided land to former peasants. Some of them worked hard and had productive farms and fed the nation. The Bolshevik's came through villages after they took over and asked malcontents who the rich class that was oppressing the people. So the town drunk or lazy person might be jealous of the prosperous farmer, point at him, and the Bolsheviks would take his farm. I saw an interview with a man who had an ancestor who was sent to the Gulag, a horrific prison, for owning a horse.

So what happened to Russia, and the Ukraine for that matter. Not only did the Bolsheviks outright kill and imprison a lot of people, their taking the farms from productive farmers led to tens of millions of people dying due to the famine their Marxist, Leninist, Communism caused.

I don't want the government, run by evil people to divide up all the wealth. You mentioned having all things in common. My wife and I have talked about the commune idea for the future. We'd thought about starting one if some resources came through.

But notice there in Acts that the apostles did not have all things in common with pagans like yourself. It was all believers in Jesus sharing all things in common. There wasn't some pagan priest insisting on using common funds to build a statue to worship a demon.

And giving up goods for communal use was voluntary according to what Peter said to Ananias in Acts 4. It was in Ananias power to do what he wanted with his land and with his money.

The New Testament teaches those who are wealthy with this world's goods to share. There is an __example__, not a command, of a commune. I'd say it is a good thing. But not everyone lived in Jerusalem, and the epistles didn't command Christians from all over the Roman empire and elsewhere to go there to Jerusalem and all live in the commune.

Regarding pagans-- 'what fellowship hath light with darkness.' I don't want to be in a commune with atheists, pagans, or unbelieving Jews. It's not commanded, and I can see Biblical reasons for not doing so. I prefer to live in a society that is productive where people are not starving because of the government idiotically dividing it up according to Marxist principles and causing mass starvation as happened in Russia, Ukraine, and Cambodia.

The Bible teaches individuals to give to the poor, and Christians are to give to/share with one another. It does NOT teach Christians to pressure the government to take the wealth of productive members of society and give it to the less productive, or to create a society that will not be well-managed.

I do not expect AI robot creators to all be Christians, either. so your argument doesn't make much sense.

Christian social teachings often call for the fair and just distribution of resources to prevent extreme inequalities (James 5:1-6). However, many modern Christians live in and accept economic systems that produce significant wealth disparities without actively seeking to reform these systems in line with these teachings.

That's a passage against those who do not pay workers wages. It is NOT a passage telling Christians to pressure the government to take wealth from some people and give it to others. It doesn't say there cannot be 'wealth disparities'. If you were criticizing Christians for not sharing more among themselves, you may have a valid point. But we aren't required to finance your 'right' to travel for free, not work, and have free food. The Bible speaks of working to support the weak, and 'if any man will not work, neither should he eat.'

You really have no idea how some Christians treat their finances, how they live, giving sacrificially, what percentage they give, etc. I know of one preacher who was going to do an evangelistic effort somewhere, but didn't have the funds.. he thought. He believed God was directing him to clean out this account he'd set aside for his child's education to go an evangelistic effort in Russia, where he took a proposed Constitution a Christian friend had written up for him to pass on to the president there... who he didn't know. He ended up going into a party at the hotel he was staying in, looking around, sensing the Lord was directing him to stand in a certain place, then Boris Yeltsin came and stood before him. He handed him the constitution and said it was written to bring peace and prosperity to his people, and parts of it ended up in the Russian constitution. He did his evangelistic efforts there, then went to a Christian ministers conference. Someone asked him if his kid needed a scholarship to a certain Christian college, and they gave it to him.