Why we believe in the Christian God

[Cornfed]

The answer is simple - abductive reasoning. This is much used in science (itself a derivative of Christianity) where you take a bunch of data points and come up with an explanation that accounts for them. We observe from the known universe that there is a plan behind it, it is knowable to us as intelligent Christian men, that we are evolved and driven to understand, exploit and promote the nature of the universe and the plan behind it. The very existence of people like us is further proof of Christianity.

Christianity is the only real religion that offers an explanation of the way things are. With any other religion you would have a chaotic universe at the whim of different deities. Christianity is the only one that attests to a universal God capable of maintaining a universe with the integrity that we observe. Actually at the esoteric core on most religions there is a Christian-like belief in a universal God, but this gets buried under noise as different cultures merge.

But waaa, you say, I want "proof". You have already been supplied with vastly more proof than you have for all the ridiculous bullcrap you believe. Witness evidence is proof. You have plenty of witnesses attesting to the Christian God or what could be interpreted as manifestations of Him in their culture. The attestation of proven experts is proof. The experts and scholars that founded all of modern science and scholarship and the technology subsequently derived therefrom were Christian acting within the Christian paradigm. You have the miracles in the Bible, like where thousands of Jews converted to a new religion based on the resurrection of an executed criminal. Why would that have happened if it hadn't been true? But waaa, you want God to appear to you personally. But would that even help? There is none so blind as won't see.

[Cornfed]

Isn't that a bit of a leap? Did you even look into any other religions before you made up your mind? What about Brahman in Hindusim? Just as an example. Brahman is the same premise with a supreme god! The divine consciousness.

That's what I said in the OP. To the extent that other religions make any sense they are essentially Christianity, but they have become cluttered with a bunch of crap. Christianity is the only religion that explicitly spells things out for modern non-NPC men.

I believe testimony is a valid source of knowledge as well, chap. So when it comes to religions and ancient texts which all talk about different deities and creation myths (Yet still share the same motifs) then it is best to trace these mythologies and religions back to their source. Mesopotamia is considered to be the cradle of civilisation. That's where the first urban areas can be traced to

As precursors to Christianity they took things as far as they could within their belief systems and then the baton was passed to us. From the fact that we could take things further it follows that our beliefs are more refined in the same way that if a mechanic can fix problems with cars more often with greater reliability it follows that his beliefs about how cars work are likely to be more refined.

Yahweh, as all powerful as he is supposed to be, can't even control these demons running amok

This is another very familiar topic. People need to be able to make their own way, these things need to play themselves out, if God intervened all the time we would be wind up toys so there would be no point to life etc.

[Cornfed]

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To address the three paragraphs, 1. I've answered this, 2. it makes sense if you see it as part of a process, 3. the free will thing is another topic that has been well discussed over the years.

[CaptainSkelebob]

The answer is simple - abductive reasoning. This is much used in science (itself a derivative of Christianity) where you take a bunch of data points and come up with an explanation that accounts for them. We observe from the known universe that there is a plan behind it, it is knowable to us as intelligent Christian men, that we are evolved and driven to understand, exploit and promote the nature of the universe and the plan behind it. The very existence of people like us is further proof of Christianity.

Christianity is the only real religion that offers an explanation of the way things are. With any other religion you would have a chaotic universe at the whim of different deities. Christianity is the only one that attests to a universal God capable of maintaining a universe with the integrity that we observe. Actually at the esoteric core on most religions there is a Christian-like belief in a universal God, but this gets buried under noise as different cultures merge.

But waaa, you say, I want "proof". You have already been supplied with vastly more proof than you have for all the ridiculous bullcrap you believe. Witness evidence is proof. You have plenty of witnesses attesting to the Christian God or what could be interpreted as manifestations of Him in their culture. The attestation of proven experts is proof. The experts and scholars that founded all of modern science and scholarship and the technology subsequently derived therefrom were Christian acting within the Christian paradigm. You have the miracles in the Bible, like where thousands of Jews converted to a new religion based on the resurrection of an executed criminal. Why would that have happened if it hadn't been true? But waaa, you want God to appear to you personally. But would that even help? There is none so blind as won't see.

WTF are you talking about??
Christianity has hindered us by thousands of years progress!!
I could of gone on a holiday to Mars
Society today in the west has progressed faster and faster in conjunction with the decline in the flock of Christianity!!
Secular society is what works best
We progress because of science
We regress because of dogmatic religions
The evidence you talked about is flimsy
Theres no proof for god
Sky fairies dont exist

[Cornfed]

I don't understand the need to have either "proof" or even true, full, complete believe and devotion to God. I cannot muster the full believe, the complete surrender to God's undoubtable existence. But what I can do, is pretend. I'm quite good at it. And that helps. It's just nice to go to Church, to sing the songs, to listen to the sermons. I don't have to believe it all, but I feel "something" and I know I'm part of something good. I want my children to grow up into faith. It's good for them. The source of morals.

Well, yes, people need a religion to live by and some form of Christianity is ours. However, it might be good to exercise a little more introspection to avoid all the crazy nonsense that has destroyed Western Christianity over the years.

[Yohan]

Christianity has hindered us by thousands of years progress!!
I could of gone on a holiday to Mars
Society today in the west has progressed faster and faster in conjunction with the decline in the flock of Christianity!!
Secular society is what works best
We progress because of science
We regress because of dogmatic religions
The evidence you talked about is flimsy
Theres no proof for god
Sky fairies dont exist

Well said, there is no proof of any god to exist. A fairy tale, nothing else. Christianity was always trying to stop research, it is also a cruel religion which was promoting torture, slavery... it's surely not a religion of love as it claims to be.

About myself, I was forced into Catholic religion as a child and left this club when I was 17 years old for always. These are not good people, best is to have nothing to do with them.

Religions are all made by humans to control other humans, to make them worried and frightened and obedient.

Religions are also coming and going, nowadays nobody believes anymore in old religions like those of Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, also religions disappeared when people died out, like religions in America, for example those of the Inka, Aztecs...

Now various new Christian related religions are coming up, like the Jehovah, or the Mormons and others.... it's really about being a good businessman if you are able to find enough idiots following you and give you money....

[jeniferbet]

I don't believe, I just know for sure that He is there! I feel His love and concern every day! I just know He is there

[Mr. Mistoffelees]

I don't believe, I just know for sure that He is there! I feel His love and concern every day! I just know He is there

I know what you mean I know He is there too! I feel His love and know He is inside me every day.