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DaRick
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland, AUS

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Qbert123 wrote:Hi DaRick

I hear what you're saying, though I probably don't understand what it's like with A.S., or whether it really has that much relevance in the dating sphere. I'm a first-generation New Zealander with a European background, and our family moved to Brisbane from Auckland a few years ago. I can certainly empathise with some of your experiences, but I don't necessary agree on everything.
My general impression after moving from Auckland to Brisbane was that the women here are slightly more confident and extroverted, but the difference is far from black and white, it's more like pink versus peach.
You're a New Zealander? I can't say I envy you much, then. From what I hear, NZ women are about as bad as the girls in Australia. Welcome to the forum, anyway.

I'm of Eurasian stock, though mostly British and French.
These traits are surely universal among women. They're like cats: you can pat them and they'll purr in delight, and suddenly they'll scratch you and hiss for no apparent reason. I think it's the hormones or something. Married guys everywhere will tell you that just need to roll with the waves, and try to stay out of harm's way. A few women aren't like that but they're usually Lesbian, Bi, Queer, or somewhere in between.
Well, it is true that all women can be unpredictable - even good girls can get upset very quickly. That being said, these women still have notably more even personalities than Anglo women - at least most of them will acknowledge you after they've met you, rather than being nice to you one day and treating you like a leper the next.
I agree, these ones seem like common problems in this culture. With some things it's a matter of degree. For instance, people can only really be materialistic if they have enough cash-flow to maintain their habits. But also there is no philosophy taught at schools, so they simply don't know any (secular) alternatives to a materialistic way of thinking.
Well, I sort of agree with this. In most state schools, I know that religion is marginalised. However, students in private schools with (nominally) Christian backgrounds also often seem to think like atheists or agnostics (i.e - they have no or questionable faith in God), even when they are exposed to religion and spirituality. I get the feeling that a lot of Australians fill the void in their lives (caused by an absence of spirituality) with material goods.

Basically, Australia is a spiritual, moral and intellectual void, for the most part. The place, however, is perfect if you're a jock.
One thing you need to remember is that many women have crap social skills too, and they try to compensate in various ways. One obvious way is to rely on guys to do all the work, another is to behave very awkwardly.
I don't really buy this. For one thing, having Asperger's Syndrome means that I have crappy social skills, yet I don't really exhibit those sorts of anti-social behaviours when I'm interacting with others. I'm generally polite and courteous (unless I'm in a bad mood), although some of my mannerisms may be strange (as a Russian girl, who otherwise seemed to like me, once remarked upon).

I believe that the problem with Anglo/Australian women is a deep arrogance, stemming from them being pandered to endlessly from birth. I don't think many of them could possibly bear to actually approach a guy first - I mean, they're goddesses, dammit! Why should they reduce themselves to speaking to mere mortals like ourselves? :roll:

Do you also notice how Anglo girls are excused for any social deficiencies they may have whilst Anglo guys are criticised constantly when they have any? Hypocrisy.
Blank stares are a popular technique women use to perve at guys while pretending to be daydreaming or thinking about something else. But if you try to act upon what you see, they will deny everything.
Yep...all in the name of making you feel like an idiot for even approaching them.
This ties in with the apparent elitism - many young women seem to have a complete lack of confidence in themselves. I see you're from '89. It gets better with time - a lot of girls in Australia take a LONG time to grow up, and by the time they are 27~29, they are all looking to get married to someone resembling a young version of their father.
A few things:

1) By the time they do 'grow up', they've already associated with the wrong types of guys. They seem to gravitate to jocks, pseudo-jocks, delinquents, players, guys who don't take pride in their appearance and plutocrats. Do I really want a woman with that sort of judgement?

2) What am I supposed to do in the meantime, anyway? Is it really fair to expect me to be alone and virginal until my late 20's? Ha - only in the Anglosphere would that be seen as 'fair' (moreover, they look down on virgins).

3) If they do take a long time to grow up, that's something that they have to deal with. I know that none of them gave a shit when I was sitting by myself at uni, when I was suffering severe depression, suffering from stomach pains, etc, etc. They've been pandered to by almost everybody else; one more round of pandering by me makes no difference.

I'm sorry if that sounded intemperate, but you can see that my negative feelings towards them exist for a reason.

As for my Asperger's Syndrome, it is a significant issue with AUS women (who dismiss me for being 'weird' when I arguably cannot help it), but not that big an issue with other women. This just goes to show how bigoted Anglo/AUS women are...

I also am aware that there are exceptions to the rule. I did meet one surprisingly flirtatious Australian girl who did know how to start and hold a conversation just the other day. However, such Australian girls already have boyfriends. Basically, if an Australian girl does not have a boyfriend, it is usually because she does not want to. Their rejection of men needn't be conscious, either.
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