New guy from Vancouver

[VancouverGuy]

Hey guys! Excited to be here. I'd love to meet a Caucasian woman... I've heard Eastern Europe is great... can anyone recommend good online dating sites that these women are on? Thanks in advance!

[Huddo]

To explain how to successfully pull this off from start to finish would take me days to write.

For most met this is a high risk situation and 99% end up traveling home broke with a kiss on the cheek if they are lucky, because they take the wrong path with the first click of their mouse. Finding where the genuine woman are online takes a hell of a lot of research and ignoring a lot of BS or you have to be introduced to the “real” dating circle by other successful men. You won’t find a single legitimate FSU dating sites in the first 100 results when you google Russian / Ukraine dating. There’s hundreds of scam FSU dating sites and very few that are legitimate. The scam romance industry makes close to a billion a year from gullible, unrealistic western men. Pay per letter sites like AFA (love me) are some of the worst, only topped by Anastasia date that made over 200 million in 2019 from its fraudulent tours and letter writing.

First make sure you have a good disposable income and 50k in the bank to see it through from start to finish. Be realistic, most realistic men meet wonderful women that bring them happiness, but the women aren’t instagram models, they are generally age appropriate girl next door types. If you’re old enough date children of the Soviet era eg:- 40+..... I won’t go into details but you’ll be far more satisfied in a traditional and romantic sense and in bed there’s absolutely no comparison... They put everything they have into pleasing you. Date younger women if you wish, but you will notice some considerable differences in my experience. Be aware that you’ll probably find more mental illness with FSU women over western women, but when you find one with all the general positive stereotypes accredited to FSU women, she will be on another level compared to most western women.

Sites :- F dating which is free and DMnotify which is an affordable monthly subscription. Don’t go on tours, don’t use pay per letter (PPL) sites because the women (bait girls and Prodaters) look hotter. They are both (tours and PPL) part of the scam romance industry. Tell women on the legit sites that you went on a tour or used a PPL site and many will ghost you immediately or say “ I’m looking for a man who’s intelligent and smart with his money”

Learn how to identify email scammers and freelance Prodaters, to a small extent they both operate on the legit sites. Learn the basics of courting a FSU woman and her culture too before messaging anyone, there’s hundreds of ways to screw up if you’re r in a western dating mindset. Be aware that it’s easier to get replies than on western dating sites, but many men fail immediately after that. Lots of women take time to drop their guard and trust you and many men see this as either a lack of interest or understand but don’t have the skills to find the soft heart in a FSU ice queen. If she likes you and you’ve won her trust she will move you off the site to a free messaging app almost immediately to video chat. If she comes up with excuses not to or wants you to go to email, there’s a good chance you’ve met hairy Boris the scammer.

Don’t talk about ex’s or sex early on, but you can tastefully flirt once she trusts you. Don’t make negative comments about western women or 1st and 2nd wave feminism, radical third wave they will have issues with, but it’s best to stay clear of the whole subject... Why, because this is the real FSU dating circle and not the scam romance industry that uses anti feminism attitudes to lure in victims. All that will happen is she will think you’re a reject that western women don’t see as a partner and no woman anywhere wants to date a man that other women find undesirable. I’ve made a big point about this because they will shit test you early on with this question:- “Why don’t you date women in your own country” The only answer is “I met and dated some wonderful women at home, but I have a real passion for FSU culture and I want to explore that in a romantic sense too”

That should be enough to get you started atm

[Shemp]

Because of the war, even Eastern Europe outside Ukraine, Belarus, Russia (meaning Poland, Moldova, Romania) is a mess currently. Crowding everywhere, people angry at foreigners for causing the crowding, etc. But this will pass.

Dating sites are just a bad idea. A much better approach is to learn to social dance. If you are attractive (well groomed, well dressed, have money, in-shape helps but Ukrainian women at least are very tolerant of fatties), you will be inundated with women of all ages, or such was my experience in Kyiv between 2015-2021. Back in 2015, the interest was overwhelming, including real beauties in their late 20's open to men 30 years older willing to be a husband and father children (I'm not interested). Now that the women in my social circle know me as a person, they are still attracted to me sexually but correctly see me as impossible to get along with, and also wonder what is wrong with me that i don't have a girlfriend.

Actually, i do have one. A young hottie who i never go out with because I'm only interested in sex and have nothing to say to women these days. I met this hottie as an escort. She's in Ireland now. So that the other way to meet women: test drive escorts until you find a keeper, then sponsor her as a sugar baby. Unfortunately, the escort market went to hell in Ukraine after about 2018, and is ruined totally now. Should be an excellent market in Russia, but visas and money transfer are a problem there.

If you go the social dancing route, be careful of your reputation if you want quality women for an LTR. In particular, don't have sex except with women you really want to keep for LTR. If you just want floozies, then no problem sleeping around. But you'd be crazy to marry a floozy from EE.

Be aware that you’ll probably find more mental illness with FSU women over western women,

Different types of mental illness, IMO, but similar prevalence. Problem is that Western men who readily recognize Western forms of mental illnessin women are sometimes easily deceived by mentally ill EE women.

[Tsar]

Actually, i do have one. A young hottie who i never go out with because I'm only interested in sex and have nothing to say to women these days. I met this hottie as an escort. She's in Ireland now. So that the other way to meet women: test drive escorts until you find a keeper, then sponsor her as a sugar baby. Unfortunately, the escort market went to hell in Ukraine after about 2018, and is ruined totally now. Should be an excellent market in Russia, but visas and money transfer are a problem there.

@Voyager1 You were asking what happened to @Shemp's whore. This post contains the answer.