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HouseMD wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 7:20 am
Winston wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 3:33 am
If I was wrong HouseMD, you could show me with evidence and logical arguments. But you can't. So you got nothing going for you, except "authority=truth" arguments. Appeal to authority is all you have. No logic or evidence or critical evidence. Do you even care about the truth, or only about conforming to the hive mind? Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy you know, even if the authority is the medical establishment or the scientific establishment. All organizations operate under politics, greed, corruption, agendas, and control. You are the one who needs to study history and broaden your mind, because your mind is VERY VERY narrow like the mainstream media is.

Btw have you ever heard the term "problem, reaction, solution" or the Hegelian Dialectic? Do you know what that means?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

The best course of action when someone who uses persistent logical fallacies attempts to engage you in debate is to not engage with them, because they cannot be persuaded
Refusing to believe lies is not ignorance. It's freethinking. Did you even read my posts and arguments? You can't refute a single one. So you lost the debate. You lose. Go watch the film VAXXED please. It is an honest film with experts and real people who care about truth, not government propaganda and indoctrination. How are you any different from an ant or bee hive or the Borg Collective or the Chinese PRC? You all believe that authority is truth, rather than evidence and logic.
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Yohan wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 7:53 am
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The best course of action when someone who uses persistent logical fallacies attempts to engage you in debate is to not engage with them, because they cannot be persuaded
I think such arguments are going to nowhere.

Of course, some people suffered badly because of unknown unwanted side-effects of a certain vaccine despite research and testing over year - sometimes something is going wrong with vaccination side-effects, I do not deny that but how many are they? Millions of people? I don't think so.

As a fact many millions of people survived with mild symptoms various life-threatening infections or even avoided to be infected because of vaccination.
A lot of kids got autism and brain damage from the vaccines. Even celebrity's kids, like Robert DeNiro and Jenny McCarthy and others. Of course they underreport it because the CDC will deny it and claim it's a birth defect. But the parents know better because they saw the INSTANTANEOUS onset of autism IMMEDIATELY AFTER the vaccine was given. That's not coincidence. Only the profit drive industry would deny it and claim it was coincidence. Why are you defending corrupt people? What's your motive?

FYI, you and your medical establishment - the government, FDA and CDC - have NEVER EVER proven that vaccines were safe. They never did any double blind studies comparing vaccinated children to unvaccinated children. Can you guess why? Obviously because such studies would NOT get the results they want, and go against their interests, not surprisingly. Hence they won't conduct them. If they did, they'd have to cover up the results, and that is too messy and risky for them. Furthermore, they never disclose to you what's in the vaccines either, which is a bad sign too, obviously because if they did, you would not want to get them. How can you trust these people who keep so many secrets and lie to protect THEIR interests, not yours? Think about it.

Where's your proof vaccines prevented outbreaks? Did you know they gave those vaccines during the DECLINE of smallbox, as the curve was already going DOWN, hence they took credit for it, when its trend was already going down? If you watch the documentaries I posted they explain all that in detail. Please watch them and get some knowledge, and not just believe all the propaganda you've been fed.

Why not trust the fantastic immune sytem God gave you, rather than artificial vaccines from a corrupt industry that offers no proof of their use? Think about it man.
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Yohan wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 6:30 am
Winston wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 3:33 am
If I was wrong HouseMD, you could show me with evidence and logical arguments.
It's easy - for example take the Jehovah, they refuse blood transfusion. Is there a risk with a blood transfusion? Yes, there is - and some Jehovah even go so far that let their own children die because they refuse a blood transfusion to save their own offsprings - but the point is not about others, not even about your own children - the point is about yourself - if it is about your own life.

Even a Jehovah is known that he will accept a heart transplant - but only if it is about his own life.
Sounds a bit egoistic to me...

How many have been saved because of blood transfusions? Good question, I think of many many millions of people.

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I ask you, Winston, what will you do if suddenly out of nothing a wild dog is showing up and bites you.
Will you accept a rabies vaccine? Or will you refuse?

Or you are working in a dirty place, have an accident and suffer a serious bleeding injury, will you refuse a tetanus vaccine?

Or do you know that only eight countries account for two thirds of tuberculosis cases: India, China, Indonesia, Philippines, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh and South Africa. Yes, countries you know best - Philippines, China... and should you go there, do you know that about 1.5 million people die every year from tuberculosis? OK, let your child go around in the Philippines and see what might happen...


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Of course not everybody needs all kind of vaccine available - it depends on your circumstances
for example smallpox, now not necessary
or yellow fever, if you are not traveling in some parts of Africa...
or polio as an adult...

and so on, I think there are more than 30 different vaccines for various diseases - you need some of them, surely not all of them.

But to say, it is better and safer to live without any vaccine than with a few vaccine/antibodies in your body is plainly wrong.
These are fallacies. You are connecting things that do not connect or relate.

This has nothing to do with blood transfusions. Of course those are necessary because people need blood to live. But they do not need vaccines. Bad example.

If you got rabies, then it's too late to get a rabies vaccine. You would get some antibiotic shots or something. You can't get a vaccine for a disease you already got. Didn't you know that? That's common sense.

Yes I agree the basic vaccines are good. But not 72 of them. When we were kids, we only got 12. Then it went up to 24, then 36, and now 72. Is that a coincidence? Or good old fashioned American greed? lol

Tell me this Yohan. Why are unvaccinated kids more healthy than vaccinated kids? Don't believe government propaganda. Just go out and talk to the parents of unvaccinated kids and see for yourself the truth. The truth is very liberating you know? Do you love the truth or do you prefer lies? Which one? The choice is yours.
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Winston wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 3:41 pm
Yohan wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 6:30 am
Winston wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 3:33 am
If I was wrong HouseMD, you could show me with evidence and logical arguments.
It's easy - for example take the Jehovah, they refuse blood transfusion. Is there a risk with a blood transfusion? Yes, there is - and some Jehovah even go so far that let their own children die because they refuse a blood transfusion to save their own offsprings - but the point is not about others, not even about your own children - the point is about yourself - if it is about your own life.

Even a Jehovah is known that he will accept a heart transplant - but only if it is about his own life.
Sounds a bit egoistic to me...

How many have been saved because of blood transfusions? Good question, I think of many many millions of people.

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I ask you, Winston, what will you do if suddenly out of nothing a wild dog is showing up and bites you.
Will you accept a rabies vaccine? Or will you refuse?

Or you are working in a dirty place, have an accident and suffer a serious bleeding injury, will you refuse a tetanus vaccine?

Or do you know that only eight countries account for two thirds of tuberculosis cases: India, China, Indonesia, Philippines, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh and South Africa. Yes, countries you know best - Philippines, China... and should you go there, do you know that about 1.5 million people die every year from tuberculosis? OK, let your child go around in the Philippines and see what might happen...


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Of course not everybody needs all kind of vaccine available - it depends on your circumstances
for example smallpox, now not necessary
or yellow fever, if you are not traveling in some parts of Africa...
or polio as an adult...

and so on, I think there are more than 30 different vaccines for various diseases - you need some of them, surely not all of them.

But to say, it is better and safer to live without any vaccine than with a few vaccine/antibodies in your body is plainly wrong.
These are fallacies. You are connecting things that do not connect or relate.

This has nothing to do with blood transfusions. Of course those are necessary because people need blood to live. But they do not need vaccines. Bad example.

If you got rabies, then it's too late to get a rabies vaccine. You would get some antibiotic shots or something. You can't get a vaccine for a disease you already got. Didn't you know that? That's common sense.

Yes I agree the basic vaccines are good. But not 72 of them. When we were kids, we only got 12. Then it went up to 24, then 36, and now 72. Is that a coincidence? Or good old fashioned American greed? lol

Tell me this Yohan. Why are unvaccinated kids more healthy than vaccinated kids? Don't believe government propaganda. Just go out and talk to the parents of unvaccinated kids and see for yourself the truth. The truth is very liberating you know? Do you love the truth or do you prefer lies? Which one? The choice is yours.
We also never did randomized, double-blind trials or modern safety profiles on many antibiotics. Would you like to volunteer for a lifelong double-blind antibiotics trial?
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April 3rd, 2020, 3:50 pm
We also never did randomized, double-blind trials or modern safety profiles on many antibiotics. Would you like to volunteer for a lifelong double-blind antibiotics trial?
Says who? I'm sure antibiotics are tested. The way they work is simple and not pseudo-science. The contents of antibiotics is well known, not a mystery or trade secret like vaccines. Antiobiotics don't contain mercury or thimerosol. They don't cause autism. Look up the research of Dr. Andrew Wakefield about the vaccines and autism connection. The proof is there and it's obvious, no matter how much the establishment tries to deny it. Merc makes billions on vaccines, do you think they're gonna tell you the truth and give it all up? Get real man. Even some members of the elite like Robert Kennedy Jr. warn of the same dangers of vaccines. Because the facts and evidence is there if you look at it objectively without a hive mind, from independent sources not controlled by establishment. Using antibiotics is a false analogy. No one from independent media is warning of the dangers of antibiotics. Thus a false analogy. You are grasping at straws. If you be honest, you will see that you have no case at all, only government propaganda and lies.
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April 3rd, 2020, 4:02 pm
HouseMD wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 3:50 pm
We also never did randomized, double-blind trials or modern safety profiles on many antibiotics. Would you like to volunteer for a lifelong double-blind antibiotics trial?
Says who? I'm sure antibiotics are tested. The way they work is simple and not pseudo-science. The contents of antibiotics is well known, not a mystery or trade secret like vaccines. Antiobiotics don't contain mercury or thimerosol. They don't cause autism. Look up the research of Dr. Andrew Wakefield about the vaccines and autism connection. The proof is there and it's obvious, no matter how much the establishment tries to deny it. Merc makes billions on vaccines, do you think they're gonna tell you the truth and give it all up? Get real man. Even some members of the elite like Robert Kennedy Jr. warn of the same dangers of vaccines. Because the facts and evidence is there if you look at it objectively without a hive mind, from independent sources not controlled by establishment. Using antibiotics is a false analogy. No one from independent media is warning of the dangers of antibiotics. Thus a false analogy. You are grasping at straws.
They were not tested in double-blind, placebo controlled trials. They used observational studies and basic science to conclude that they work without a doubt. They also only learned about certain things, like sulfa allergies and penicillin allergies, later on because safety testing isn't something you do when you have something of obvious benefit that it would be unethical to not provide a patient and give them a placebo instead
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Winston, the correlation between autism and vaccines is unproven and, frankly, ridiculous and largely circumstantial. You mention Robert de Niro having an autistic child... while it is true that one of his six children has autism, what you fail to mention is this is his second- to the last child, fathered when he was already older. Advanced maternal and paternal age at conception greatly increases the likelihood of birth defects. The West nowadays has a higher rate of autism, and other birth defects, this is true. Especially compared to previous generations. This is largely because;

A: these things are now tested and detected much sooner, and;

B: more and more people have children later in life, resulting in damaged offspring

You cannot blame doctors, vaccines and 'muh big pharma' just because some old farts and over the hill hoes decide to pump out kids at an age where they should be minding their grandkids. Blame all the late-age IVF babies followed by years of heavy drinking and unhealthy living, and you understand why more and more Western kids are born 'special'. This isn't rocket science and has nothing to do with vaccines.

As for unvaccinated kids being healthier, I call bullshit on that. I have a friend, religious nut, who refused to vaccinate his daughter. She's sickly and has a weird skull shape, as does he. She does not look more bright or well-behaved than other kids, and has behavioural issues. Which may in part be because she is being homeschooled, as I said before, her father is a religious nut after all. Anyway, anecdotal evidence is all you have to sustain yourself in this debate. ;)
It is not unproven. It is clear cut and proven. Look up Dr. Andrew Wakefield. He has conclusively proved the link between vaccines and autism, ruling out other factors. The link is too obvious. The correlation is there. No one would deny it unless they were brainwashed. Of course the government and vaccine industry will deny it. What do you expect? Why you so gullible and naive? Just because they LIE doesn't mean you have to believe it. Think about this. What has Dr. Wakefield gained from this? He's been smeared and attacked and lost a lot for exposing the truth. Just like that Chinese doctor in Wuhan lost his life for exposing the truth about the coronavirus. Think about that. Whistleblowers have nothing to gain. But establishment has something to gain by covering up the truth, namely billions of dollars. USE YOUR HEAD MAN! Do you have one???

Anyone can see what's going on. Why are you so blind? You points above are pure speculation. How do you know vaccines are safe? Who told you? Because they say so? lol. Where's the evidence that vaccines are safe? There isn't any of course. You should look for evidence man.

If you watched the VAXXED documentary I told you about, you'd know without a doubt that the link has been proven. No doubt about it. Go watch it please. Then you will be convinced and apologize later.

How do you know that religious child got sickly because of lack of vaccines? You don't know that. There could be many other reasons. Maybe she got bad nutrition or has bad genes or whatever. Lots of kids in the Philippines are sick all the time regardless of whether they got vaccinated or not. Some kids have bad genes and in the Philippines it seems most people do not have good immune systems or nutrition. That's genetics. Not vaccines. For Filipinos it may be a good idea to get some vaccines since their immune system tends to not be as good as westerners for some reason. A lot of people die young there, even when they are vaccinated. It's a third world country, what do you expect? Has nothing to do with vaccines. Don't mix things that aren't related. Your religious nut friend is Filipino right?

How do you explain all the kids I know who are not vaccinated and healthier than other kids and never get sick? This is true even of David Icke's kids.

Look for truth, not propaganda.
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Winston wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 4:12 pm
MarcosZeitola wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 3:57 pm
Winston, the correlation between autism and vaccines is unproven and, frankly, ridiculous and largely circumstantial. You mention Robert de Niro having an autistic child... while it is true that one of his six children has autism, what you fail to mention is this is his second- to the last child, fathered when he was already older. Advanced maternal and paternal age at conception greatly increases the likelihood of birth defects. The West nowadays has a higher rate of autism, and other birth defects, this is true. Especially compared to previous generations. This is largely because;

A: these things are now tested and detected much sooner, and;

B: more and more people have children later in life, resulting in damaged offspring

You cannot blame doctors, vaccines and 'muh big pharma' just because some old farts and over the hill hoes decide to pump out kids at an age where they should be minding their grandkids. Blame all the late-age IVF babies followed by years of heavy drinking and unhealthy living, and you understand why more and more Western kids are born 'special'. This isn't rocket science and has nothing to do with vaccines.

As for unvaccinated kids being healthier, I call bullshit on that. I have a friend, religious nut, who refused to vaccinate his daughter. She's sickly and has a weird skull shape, as does he. She does not look more bright or well-behaved than other kids, and has behavioural issues. Which may in part be because she is being homeschooled, as I said before, her father is a religious nut after all. Anyway, anecdotal evidence is all you have to sustain yourself in this debate. ;)
It is not unproven. It is clear cut and proven. Look up Dr. Andrew Wakefield. He has conclusively proved the link between vaccines and autism, ruling out other factors. The link is too obvious. The correlation is there. No one would deny it unless they were brainwashed. Of course the government and vaccine industry will deny it. What do you expect? Why you so gullible and naive? Just because they LIE doesn't mean you have to believe it. Think about this. What has Dr. Wakefield gained from this? He's been smeared and attacked and lost a lot for exposing the truth. Just like that Chinese doctor in Wuhan lost his life for exposing the truth about the coronavirus. Think about that. Whistleblowers have nothing to gain. But establishment has something to gain by covering up the truth, namely billions of dollars. USE YOUR HEAD MAN! Do you have one???

Anyone can see what's going on. Why are you so blind? You points above are pure speculation. How do you know vaccines are safe? Who told you? Because they say so? lol. Where's the evidence that vaccines are safe? There isn't any of course. You should look for evidence man.

How do you know that religious child got sickly because of lack of vaccines? You don't know that. There could be many other reasons. Maybe she got bad nutrition or has bad genes or whatever. Lots of kids in the Philippines are sick all the time regardless of whether they got vaccinated or not. Some kids have bad genes and in the Philippines it seems most people do not have good immune systems or nutrition. That's genetics. Not vaccines. For Filipinos it may be a good idea to get some vaccines since their immune system tends to not be as good as westerners for some reason. A lot of people die young there, even when they are vaccinated. It's a third world country, what do you expect? Has nothing to do with vaccines. Don't mix things that aren't related. Your religious nut friend is Filipino right?

How do you explain all the kids I know who are not vaccinated and healthier than other kids and never get sick? This is true even of David Icke's kids.

Look for truth, not propaganda.
Are you certain your vaccines didn't give you autism? :roll:
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Why don't you guys go get the local flu shot at the nearest drugstore and see how it makes you feel afterward? lol. If you believe in vaccines that is. lol. Let us know how it makes you feel after getting the flu vaccine. lol. I did it once and after it made me feel like shit, I said, never again. Felt like something evil and Satanic entered my body.
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Why don't you guys go get the local flu shot at the nearest drugstore and see how it makes you feel afterward? lol. If you believe in vaccines that is. lol. Let us know how it makes you feel after getting the flu vaccine. lol. I did it once and after it made me feel like shit, I said, never again. Felt like something evil and Satanic entered my body.
I have to get it every year. Doesn't do a damn thing aside from make my arm sore.
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Are you certain your vaccines didn't give you autism? :roll:
If it did, then it would prove my point right? lol

Autistic people do not write coherently or logically or articulately like I do. They have trouble functioning or even communicating.

I could have some aspergers though. Some of the criteria for that may fit me.

I may have been harmed by vaccines in the early 80's. Before I was 13 I could sprint at full speed across a grass field, with no lag or resistance. Then one day I couldn't. Plus my toe nails started curving and twisting. May have been from vaccines or dental mercury. Who knows. But it was weird how it all changed seemingly in one day. After that I could no longer sprint or run fast anymore, even though I was very thin.
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HouseMD wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 4:18 pm
Winston wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 4:15 pm
Why don't you guys go get the local flu shot at the nearest drugstore and see how it makes you feel afterward? lol. If you believe in vaccines that is. lol. Let us know how it makes you feel after getting the flu vaccine. lol. I did it once and after it made me feel like shit, I said, never again. Felt like something evil and Satanic entered my body.
I have to get it every year. Doesn't do a damn thing aside from make my arm sore.
Many people say the flu shot makes them feel like shit. Same here.

Maybe you are so pumped with vaccines that the nanobots in them have taken over your mind, making it hard for you to think for yourself anymore, and thus you believe every lie about them now. lol. Maybe they've hijacked you, taken you over like an alien virus. lol. Maybe you've been converted to the hive, like in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and other sci fi movies. lol. So you no longer can think for yourself nor are you a free individual with a free mind. lol. Only a hive mind taken over and indoctrinated. lol
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You guys,
You do know that you don't have to believe the LIES from the scientific and medical establishment right? You can choose to reject their LIES. You do know that right?

They hide behind the name of "Science" but what they fail to tell you is that the scientific establishment is not the same thing as the concept of Science itself. Science is a tool and method. Just like a computer. It does not take stances on issues or make philosophical claims such as:

"There is no God. God is not necessary to explain the origin of life or the universe. Life came from non-life, and arose from dead matter when lightning struck a pool of mud with dead chemicals in it. A machine or computer program can create itself without an intelligent agent. Randomness can create order and complexity through natural selection and random mutations." etc.

Those are all philosophical atheistic claims of belief and bias. Not science. They have NEVER been proven. Yet the science establishment (not the concept of science) LIES and claims all these things have been proven. So yes, they do LIE! Make no mistake about it. They've hijacked academia and education in the western world and spouted these obvious lies, which even a 5 year old child can see through, and proclaimed them as fact and absolute truth. Only brainwashed people who cannot think believe them, even though they are dumber than dumb.

The truth is, no matter how much you slice it:

1. Information always requires an intelligent agent. Always. It never comes from random processes.
2. Randomness can never create design, order and complexity. Never. Not in a trillion years. Not in an eternity. Even when you see simple words carved on the sand or rock, you know a person did it, not random forces.
3. Life always comes from life. Never from non-life. The chicken and the egg analogy exemplifies this. The chicken and the egg come from each other and always do, because life can only come from life. Never from non-life.

These are things that even children know. So how can so many "educated atheists" of the modern world deny them all and instead go for obvious lies and call it "objective science"? It's so weird and inexplicable and the most dishonest thing in the world, and dumber than dumb as well.

But the GOOD NEWS is, you can think for yourself and reject all their lies. Just because someone lies to you does not mean you have to believe it. Remember that. For instance, see this new series on YouTube called "Science Uprising" where people are starting to take a stand against atheistic lies about materialism being all there is. It's really good and eloquent. Here's the playlist. Each episode is short so it won't take much time to get through.

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Well-known scientists have been preaching a materialistic worldview rather than presenting the public with all the evidence. We are here to change that. The objective scientific evidence does not prove our universe is blind and purposeless. It does not show we are simply meat machines. It does not prove that evolutionary mechanisms can completely account for the diversity of life on earth.

Think for yourself and make an informed decision.

Be sure to visit https://scienceuprising.com/ to find more videos and explore related articles and books.
It features great experts like Dr. Stephen Meyer and Dr. James Tour, who passionately atomizes the claims of Atheistic science, making them look like the stupidest people who ever lived for their claims which any sane person can see are lies.

Check out these eloquent videos below where Dr. James Tour and Dr. Stephen Meyer totally atomize and obliterate Atheistic science with fact, logic, science, and common sense.





Watch those. They will totally change your mind and make you see the light of truth. Guaranteed. They are IRREFUTABLE.

So you see, my point is, you don't have to believe the LIES of the scientific or medical establishment. Just because they LIE to you doesn't mean you have to believe it. You can choose to REJECT them and THINK for yourself. Whether it be about vaccines, life coming from non-life, randomnness creating order, design and complexity, etc.

Hope that's GOOD NEWS to you all.
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Re: Having children in the Philippines and VACCINES

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Winston wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 4:47 pm
You guys,
You do know that you don't have to believe the LIES from the scientific and medical establishment right? You can choose to reject their LIES. You do know that right?

They hide behind the name of "Science" but what they fail to tell you is that the scientific establishment is not the same thing as the concept of Science itself. Science is a tool and method. Just like a computer. It does not take stances on issues or make philosophical claims such as:

"There is no God. God is not necessary to explain the origin of life or the universe. Life came from non-life, and arose from dead matter when lightning struck a pool of mud with dead chemicals in it. A machine or computer program can create itself without an intelligent agent. Randomness can create order and complexity through natural selection and random mutations." etc.

Those are all philosophical atheistic claims of belief and bias. Not science. They have NEVER been proven. Yet the science establishment (not the concept of science) LIES and claims all these things have been proven. So yes, they do LIE! Make no mistake about it. They've hijacked academia and education in the western world and spouted these obvious lies, which even a 5 year old child can see through, and proclaimed them as fact and absolute truth. Only brainwashed people who cannot think believe them, even though they are dumber than dumb.

The truth is, no matter how much you slice it:

1. Information always requires an intelligent agent. Always. It never comes from random processes.
2. Randomness can never create design, order and complexity. Never. Not in a trillion years. Not in an eternity. Even when you see simple words carved on the sand or rock, you know a person did it, not random forces.
3. Life always comes from life. Never from non-life. The chicken and the egg analogy exemplifies this. The chicken and the egg come from each other and always do, because life can only come from life. Never from non-life.

These are things that even children know. So how can so many "educated atheists" of the modern world deny them all and instead go for obvious lies and call it "objective science"? It's so weird and inexplicable and the most dishonest thing in the world, and dumber than dumb as well.

But the GOOD NEWS is, you can think for yourself and reject all their lies. Just because someone lies to you does not mean you have to believe it. Remember that. For instance, see this new series on YouTube called "Science Uprising" where people are starting to take a stand against atheistic lies about materialism being all there is. It's really good and eloquent. Here's the playlist. Each episode is short so it won't take much time to get through.

SCIENCE UPRISING PLAYLIST

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... je4p7rAE7-

Description:
Well-known scientists have been preaching a materialistic worldview rather than presenting the public with all the evidence. We are here to change that. The objective scientific evidence does not prove our universe is blind and purposeless. It does not show we are simply meat machines. It does not prove that evolutionary mechanisms can completely account for the diversity of life on earth.

Think for yourself and make an informed decision.

Be sure to visit https://scienceuprising.com/ to find more videos and explore related articles and books.
It features great experts like Dr. Stephen Meyer and Dr. James Tour, who passionately atomizes the claims of Atheistic science, making them look like the stupidest people who ever lived for their claims which any sane person can see are lies.

Check out these eloquent videos below where Dr. James Tour and Dr. Stephen Meyer totally atomize and obliterate Atheistic science with fact, logic, science, and common sense.





Watch those. They will totally change your mind and make you see the light of truth. Guaranteed. They are IRREFUTABLE.

So you see, my point is, you don't have to believe the LIES of the scientific or medical establishment. Just because they LIE to you doesn't mean you have to believe it. You can choose to REJECT them and THINK for yourself. Whether it be about vaccines, life coming from non-life, randomnness creating order, design and complexity, etc.

Hope that's GOOD NEWS to you all.
It's okay. I get it. You struggle with complex topics and thus must rely on faith and your feelings. I forgive your ignorance. I have studied many of the things that you view as mythical first hand and can assure you, if you were to actually pursue an education to see the evidence for yourself, it is there. However you are a lazy man that only seeks self-gratification that shuns any knowledge or reality that is unrelated to same. A flu shot makes you feel a bit under the weather, therefore it is clearly bad despite the fact that the chance of the shot killing you is infinitely lower than the flu. Vaccines cause autism because a few kids with vaccines have autism, yet you neglect the fact that their parents are almost always vaccinated people that do not themselves have autism. That would be inconvenient. As would the fact that the vaccines cause autism study was made by an absolute hack and a fraud that literally stole blood from children and completely fabricated all of his data.
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Re: Having children in the Philippines and VACCINES

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Btw Yohan,
If 1.5 million people die from tuberculosis every year, then the coronavirus numbers pale in comparison. So why isn't there a global pandemic over tuberculosis? Why doesn't the whole world shut down because of tuberculosis? Obviously because there seems to be some agenda at work here behind the coronavirus. It's changing the world because it was MEANT to change the world. Just like 9/11 changed the world even though only 3,000 people died from it.

Alan Watt made a good point once in his podcast: "Lots of events throughout history have resulted in far more casualties than the 3,000 on 9/11. So why did that change the world? Obviously because it was MEANT to." Meaning those behind it INTENDED for it to change the world to suit their agenda. Thus it was all engineered and orchestrated and planned. Nothing big happens by chance. They just make it look like it happened by chance to fool the gullible masses and sheeple.
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