JACKAL - Your experiences in Hungary

[i_want_a_hot_white_chick]

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@ Jackal


Thanks for all the info! Hungary definitely looks like a good country to consider.

[have2fly]

Wow! I'm glad to hear it is so inexpensive! When you say I would only need $1,000 per month, do you mean this for a guy who is say, 1.5 out of 10 in the looks department? Would a very ugly mid thirties guy really be able to get a mid twenties girl who was at least average looking for only $1,000 per month? Or were you thinking of more of an average looking guy when you said this? If it really is only $1,000 per month, I've got to move to Ukraine ASAP!

Would $2,000 per month be enough to get a chick like the one in my avatar?

http://www.loveme.com/women/info118524.htm

What do you base the estimate on? Have you witnessed Sugar Daddy relationships in Ukraine? Do you know any guys who have Sugardaddied Ukrainian women?

Thank you VERY much for the info, have2fly. That gives me a lot of hope!

Are you that ugly? I mean, 1,5 out of 10? Maybe you got a low self-esteem?

As far as the girl on the picture - she is very "below average" by Russian-Ukrainian standards. Girls like the one on your picture are usually completely lonely because there are much better girls available. So I think you will easily get a girl like that or many of similar quality ones around as well.

If you spend $2,000 a month on a chick like on your avatar? I'd say totally right on! In Ukraine people make 500-1,000 bucks a month and general expenses are lower, but cars, electronics and clothes may cost more money than in the U.S. For $2,000 a month any girl will live an amazing life by Ukrainian standards, she will shop, eat out, buy an expensive cell phone, laptop etc. Unless you are some totally freaky looking, you should not have any problem.

Now keep in mind, there some bitchy girls, there are some that will try to get more money out of you. There are definitely decent ones as well, so it depends what you/she needs at the moment and how you go about solving it, but that's a private thing depending on a girl/situation.

Also depends how much support you are willing to give. Some model-looking girls enjoy having very rich lovers, those "barby" type girls spend their days at hair salons/spa and at night they party up and please their "daddy". They live a very upscale lifestyle, they drive Bentley (or Audi TT/Porsche), they have their own luxury apartment with cooks/cleaners, they spend their vacations in expensive president-suites in Italy or France, they are very "stuck up" because they think they own this world due to their "sugar daddy" buying them everything. Keep in mind, there are some very hot girls that try to copy these "rich sluts" and act like they are the shit giving you attitude like "you gotta spend a ton of money on me". Never follow their rules, just dump them and look for another one. Thank Heavens, the availability and supply in Ukraine is neverending!

Also keep in mind HIV/AIDS, there is a large percentage of people infected by it due to large number of heroin users. I would always try to get the girl checked before having unprotected sex, but maybe I am just too paranoid about it.

[odbo]

do you mean this for a guy who is say, 1.5 out of 10 in the looks department? Would a very ugly mid thirties guy really be able to get a mid twenties girl who was at least average looking for only $1,000 per month? Or were you thinking of more of an average looking guy when you said this?

i don't get it, midgets and burn victims can find a girl friend, what's your excuse. i'm sure you can easily improve your appeal, especially if it's a weight issue. you should try to find someone who will love you for you in the long run. but at the same time don't lie to yourself.

[Adama]

do you mean this for a guy who is say, 1.5 out of 10 in the looks department? Would a very ugly mid thirties guy really be able to get a mid twenties girl who was at least average looking for only $1,000 per month? Or were you thinking of more of an average looking guy when you said this?

i don't get it, midgets and burn victims can find a girl friend, what's your excuse. i'm sure you can easily improve your appeal, especially if it's a weight issue. you should try to find someone who will love you for you in the long run. but at the same time don't lie to yourself.

In what country, and how rich is the guy? lol

[i_want_a_hot_white_chick]

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@ have2fly

As far as the girl on the picture - she is very "below average" by Russian-Ukrainian standards. Girls like the one on your picture are usually completely lonely because there are much better girls available. So I think you will easily get a girl like that or many of similar quality ones around as well.

have2fly, I'm somewhat confused. You think the chick in my avatar picture is "below average"? When I saw her picture, and her name is Natalya, I was stunned by how beautiful she is. To me, she is one of the hottest chicks I've ever seen.
If she is "below average" by "Russian-Ukrainian standards" then I guess that is a good thing. The less desirable the women I am attracted to are in the country I move to the better, so it is a pleasant surprise that she is considered below average looking.

since this is getting off of the original topic of this thread, I created a new thread:

have2fly - Standards of Beauty in Ukraine

viewtopic.php?t=9711

Please take a look at it. I'm curious in what ways my tastes differ from those of other Ukrainians. If I'm able to identify girls that I like that Ukrainians don't like then it would be easy for me to get the chicks I want if I move to Ukraine.

Also keep in mind HIV/AIDS, there is a large percentage of people infected by it due to large number of heroin users. I would always try to get the girl checked before having unprotected sex, but maybe I am just too paranoid about it.

Yes, that is exactly why I want to have Sugar Daddy relationships because I do fear disease. I would never do conventional P4P because the disease risk is much too high. I'll definitely get my Sugar Babe tested for ALL diseases.


@ LinuxOnly

i don't get it, midgets and burn victims can find a girl friend, what's your excuse. i'm sure you can easily improve your appeal, especially if it's a weight issue. you should try to find someone who will love you for you in the long run. but at the same time don't lie to yourself.

My excuse: I live in the USA! Yes, I'm trying to improve my appeal. That is why I worked out a telecommuting work arrangement so that I could make a first world income while living in a third world country. I figure even if I make a low first world income while living in a third world country like Ukraine I will be comparatively rich.


@ Adama

In what country, and how rich is the guy? lol

Yes, I want to know this too!

have2fly, if the couple LinuxOnly posted was living in Ukraine, how much would that guy need to spend per month to get that girl?


@ Jackal


If you have any guesses, do you think that have2fly's estimates on the cost of Sugar Babes in Ukraine would apply to Hungary as well? Would Sugar Babes in Hungary be more expensive or less expensive than in Ukraine?

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[Dogboy86]

I_want_a_hot_white_chic, I like your posts and the way you think bro!

[mlyip77]

Well, I wasn't talking about a minimum "to get" women (each one decides individually whether she likes you or not). I was talking about how much feels like "a lot" to an average Hungarian. I guess what I mean is that once you make $1200 or more, most women would be impressed enough (except maybe some of the really stuck up women in Budapest). If you already have a steady income, then I think that women are more influenced by your personality: how kind you are, how romantic you are, how interesting you are, etc. Some women like lots of money, but others feel uncomfortable around men who always show off their money. Just be romantic and kind, show an interest in her culture, and be generous at the right times. There's no need to go overboard with spending money on women.

Hi Jackal,

Thanks for the clarification. I was wondering, about how much would a person need to spend, per month, to get basic necessities? By that I mean a clean apartment with a toilet and a kitchen, heat, electricity, running water, internet, food, etc. By that I mean the basic necessities of modern life. What would one need to spend?

Also, I'm curious if you have any guesses as to what the monthly cost of a typical Sugar Daddy / Sugar Babe relationship would cost? By that I mean, if a guy were unattractive and wanted a long term completely exclusive Sugar Daddy type relationship about how much would he need to spend to maybe get an average looking woman in her later twenties? In the US, it seems a guy would have to spend at least $10,000 a month and probably more like $20,000 per month to do this. If you have even a wild guess as to this answer I would appreciate it since I can't seem to find very many expats living in Eastern Europe and so it is hard for me to find any information on this topic.

For example, lets say a guy wanted an exclusive girlfriend for 6 months. If he saved up $12,000 and spend $2,000 on per month for those 6 months, would it be enough to keep her around? Would he need less than that or more? I ask because I'm quite ugly and very awkward socially but am lonely. I do have some savings and have worked out a remote working arrangement where I make between $2,000 to $2,500 per month. I'm trying to figure out what I could expect if I moved to Eastern Europe and what options I would have there.

Thanks!

Money isn't going to buy you love or romance. Atleast not real intimacy. Depends what you're looking for. If you're just looking to bust a nut, then proceed.

However with globalization 2k/month isn't very much.

Can you post a picture of yourself, blur out the eyes or other parts so that you can keep your privacy. Not sure how hideous you look, but I can give you some pointers....if there's some image to work with.

[Jackal]

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@ Jackal
If you have any guesses, do you think that have2fly's estimates on the cost of Sugar Babes in Ukraine would apply to Hungary as well? Would Sugar Babes in Hungary be more expensive or less expensive than in Ukraine?
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I would guess that "sugar babes" would be more expensive in Hungary because when ranked by GDP per capita, Hungary is around 46, whereas Ukraine is around 102.

But the thing is that it is not shameful for a woman to live with her parents here, so most hot, young Hungarian women would rather live with their parents in their hometowns and date the handsome local guys who they used to go to high school with than to live with an older, not-so-handsome foreigner. The main thing is that they want to look good to their family and friends. If a guy doesn't look right to them, he will just embarrass them, no matter how rich he is.

Then the p4p type of women can often be mixed up with the mafia, so I think it's probably safer and cheaper for you to try out this fantasy of yours in a different country. You have to speak Hungarian to make sure that you're not getting cheated here.