Is life better for men without having kids?

[Winston]

so... if you don't have kids... who will care for you when you're old? Cause you might need help and maybe you can't afford to stay in an retirement home...

So if you're 60,70,80 then what? what's life like then when you're all alone?

I have thought about this too. What is life like if you don't have kids and your old and all alone and don't have any children to look after you?

Isn't that a myth? Most adults in the US don't take care of their parents in old age. They don't have the time and are too busy with their own families. Most American adults rarely even see their parents. My cousin is a lawyer in Las Vegas but he won't even see his own mother in the same city. He just doesn't give a shit. When she needs a ride to the airport, he won't even help.

So you can't depend on that, at least not in the US. Why not save up your money and hire a maid to take care of you. Or do that overseas where maids are cheaper? Or keep fit and healthy so you can move even when you're old? The guy who invented The Juiceman is 90 yet still very fit, active and energetic because he juices his vegetables everyday.

You gotta maximize your life while you're still young. Not sacrifice everything just for security in old age. That's not a way to live.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I am 47 and without kids. I have not regretted it one bit. In fact, I love the wealth I have been able to accumulate. I love that I can take 4 international trips per year. I love that I live a leisurely existance outside of work.

Kids are overrated. They are a burden and a huge expense. People with huge ego need children to give them what they think is immortality.

I am starting to believe that children are the biological imperative of women and the men who are bamboozled by those women.

[tre]

I like children when they are between the ages of 3 and 10. They are cute, innocent and fun. The older they get past the age of 10 the less I get along with them. Between the ages of 13 and 18, they are a nightmare IMO...especially girls. I do not think I will ever have children. When I was younger and more energetic, it was definitely on my "to do" list. However, the older I get, the more daunting that task looks to me. I am also very worried about the future and would feel irresponsible to bring children into a world that is about to collapse. I already have 13 nieces and nephews from YOUNGER siblings with two more on the way. I think that is enough...I don't need to be adding to it.

Since I am planning on teaching at an International School, I will focus on teaching the age range I prefer. I will be able to do my part in helping them live better lives. I think this makes more sense than to add to a population that is ripe for depopulation by corrupt outside forces.

The benefit of being a teacher is that you do get to help children and give them a better chance at success in life. However, you also earn money instead of spending it. Everyday after work you get to relax and take care of yourself (exercise, further education, etc).. At this point in my life, I don't know that I'd survive the huge weight of responsibility that raising children (correctly) involves...

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

I am 47 and without kids. I have not regretted it one bit. In fact, I love the wealth I have been able to accumulate. I love that I can take 4 international trips per year. I love that I live a leisurely existance outside of work.

Kids are overrated. They are a burden and a huge expense. People with huge ego need children to give them what they think is immortality.

I am starting to believe that children are the biological imperative of women and the men who are bamboozled by those women.

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[Contrarian Expatriate]

I like this man's point of view:

[hypermak]

I like this man's point of view:

You won't fail to see the irony in this. An "alpha male" back in the days was a man (or animal) who could protect and support multiple females and their offspring. Now what passes for an "alpha male" is a man who doesn't want any more responsibility than that of his own "happiness". Dark times indeed...

[Spencer]

I like this man's point of view:

You won't fail to see the irony in this. An "alpha male" back in the days was a man (or animal) who could protect and support multiple females and their offspring. Now what passes for an "alpha male" is a man who doesn't want any more responsibility than that of his own "happiness". Dark times indeed...

Again you say dumwit public duende for poverty place you stay have exacmente problem hi shine lite

and what he say 100% truth which point he say wrong for he advocator have child when income net worth at level and he advocate limitates excepting those very wealthiest so did you even open video

public duende by own standarding weakman because not have kid only trol poverty dumwit girls for funys and even you 45

why problem there we see peoples have 3 4 5 childrens and so lo money for resulting poverty left right center kid lifing street all where everywhere so maybe you like for your explotion agendas but there is so so big bad miserys because so many dumwit there doing what you saying shifting kid after kid after kid

how you look selfmiror all you says is perversions of truth or beter now and liarman sayings with worsting intention

[hypermak]

Again you say dumwit public duende for poverty place you stay have exacmente problem hi shine lite

and what he say 100% truth which point he say wrong for he advocator have child when income net worth at level and he advocate limitates excepting those very wealthiest so did you even open video

public duende by own standarding weakman because not have kid only trol poverty dumwit girls for funys and even you 45

why problem there we see peoples have 3 4 5 childrens and so lo money for resulting poverty left right center kid lifing street all where everywhere so maybe you like for your explotion agendas but there is so so big bad miserys because so many dumwit there doing what you saying shifting kid after kid after kid

how you look selfmiror all you says is perversions of truth or beter now and liarman sayings with worsting intention

Stop trolling around PAG, I am not Publicduende but last time I checked he was engaged with a girl who is all but poor and he has a successul business. So maybe you should get the story straight, instead of gaslighting people who aren't even here to defend themselves.

If I understand well and you're referring to the problem of Filipinos having too many children, it's a mix or lazyness (no contraception!) and the faulty idea that children will take care of the family, so the more children, the more opportunity that at least one or two of these kids will be able to support the parents and their younger siblings.

The problem with this belief is that a poor family won't be able to give one, let alone five kids, the opportunity to study and place themselves high enough on the professional ladder to be able to support a huge extended family. The few times it happens, say one the girls grows up to become a nurse and works in the Emirates, the pressure on them is immense and many times they end up working extra hard, sacrificing themselves and still hearing their family disappointed because they "don't make enough money to buy their second cousin the PS4 they wanted for Christmas".

The situation in the West is very different. There are good or better public schools, Europe has public healthcare and colleges, and having a kid, for a responsibility it is, is a viable choice for most families.

What you (and @Contrarian Expatriate) will never get is that having a kid is the ultimate "manly" choice: it doesn't take any discipline or courage to keep all the income for oneself and indulge in international travel and paid companionship in lieu of a real relationship. It takes serious guts for a man to decide to sacrifice his earnings to start a family. I am not stigmatizing either choice, but I feel like laughing when people say the modern "alpha male" is the one who idolised his masculinity and basically lives for himself.

[yick]

I think there is a optimum time for children in a mans life and that is when he is young enough to raise them with the energy he needs and the patience, he has to have something of the child in himself to be somewhat successful I feel.

I think I am too old to have children now, I wanted children once but that was when I was in my twenties and thirties, by the time my kid turned 18 if I had a kid right now, I will be an old aged pensioner which isn't a good thing to be when my kid needs me. I am a middle aged man and still need my parents just for emotional support, can you imagine leaving my kid to this world barely out of their teens, wouldn't be fair?

Also, when you get to be my age, you're set in your ways, could I have a kid with a young lady and be a good father? I think I could and would make a good father but I don't think I would be at all suitable, I could teach the kid good life choices and educate it properly and bring it up instead of dragging it up but that time has definitely come and gone for me.

[Moretorque]

Your intelligent males will balk at the idea of breeding in the current shit show and that is what our rulers want. Most women will keep breeding even if the planet was completely dead and devoid of all life...

[Yohan]

I think there is a optimum time for children in a mans life and that is when he is young enough to raise them with the energy he needs and the patience, he has to have something of the child in himself to be somewhat successful I feel.

This is true.

I am married since more than 40 years with the same Japanese woman, we are both near to 70 now and we have 2 daughters and now also 2 grandchildren. I also took care of a fosterdaughter in Philippines, who is now 26.

We were still not even 30 years old, when our daughters were born, and they are now 41 and 38 years old and have their own family, but we see them very often and have a good relationship with all of them.

In our case no problems at all. Yes, IF you find a reasonable woman, you should have children when you are around 25 to 35 years old - when you retire - around 65 or so - you should be without any obligation to them.

[Spencer]

Again you say dumwit public duende for poverty place you stay have exacmente problem hi shine lite

and what he say 100% truth which point he say wrong for he advocator have child when income net worth at level and he advocate limitates excepting those very wealthiest so did you even open video

public duende by own standarding weakman because not have kid only trol poverty dumwit girls for funys and even you 45

why problem there we see peoples have 3 4 5 childrens and so lo money for resulting poverty left right center kid lifing street all where everywhere so maybe you like for your explotion agendas but there is so so big bad miserys because so many dumwit there doing what you saying shifting kid after kid after kid

how you look selfmiror all you says is perversions of truth or beter now and liarman sayings with worsting intention

Stop trolling around PAG, I am not Publicduende but last time I checked he was engaged with a girl who is all but poor and he has a successul business. So maybe you should get the story straight, instead of gaslighting people who aren't even here to defend themselves.

If I understand well and you're referring to the problem of Filipinos having too many children, it's a mix or lazyness (no contraception!) and the faulty idea that children will take care of the family, so the more children, the more opportunity that at least one or two of these kids will be able to support the parents and their younger siblings.

The problem with this belief is that a poor family won't be able to give one, let alone five kids, the opportunity to study and place themselves high enough on the professional ladder to be able to support a huge extended family. The few times it happens, say one the girls grows up to become a nurse and works in the Emirates, the pressure on them is immense and many times they end up working extra hard, sacrificing themselves and still hearing their family disappointed because they "don't make enough money to buy their second cousin the PS4 they wanted for Christmas".

The situation in the West is very different. There are good or better public schools, Europe has public healthcare and colleges, and having a kid, for a responsibility it is, is a viable choice for most families.

What you (and @Contrarian Expatriate) will never get is that having a kid is the ultimate "manly" choice: it doesn't take any discipline or courage to keep all the income for oneself and indulge in international travel and paid companionship in lieu of a real relationship. It takes serious guts for a man to decide to sacrifice his earnings to start a family. I am not stigmatizing either choice, but I feel like laughing when people say the modern "alpha male" is the one who idolised his masculinity and basically lives for himself.

Oh but you are the public duende for you admit in briefly state exasperate after you lost it for we not know you take any medcasyons but after you make the frustrated public admit no shit sherloc it come too late go back flimsy liarman

let you and me have phone call or beter yet video and if you not public duende i pay the $250 america money give firstly to wiseton escrow for if i wrong i let wiseton keep $100 then send rest for you then i would make apologises public but i know for truth fact and can proof that you are the public duende and after lockdown subsiding i have travel money go phlipin for meet wiseton and imbestegasyon you for your liarman trollings for you knowing phlipin become stricts and you maybe the undesirable there so you deserving all to come your way

shushup your hypocriticism posting you not give kid for colonbia wife and later you not focus have kid w c girl but you squandering time after time day after day month year now reach 45 year age still here obsesion on contarian and you enemy of all aborder as closet hate black man racialist and feminizing femist in supporting monsterbitch over invisibleman you are same virus here that what you are for all your traitings are bad bad bad 1 liarman 2 trol 3 stalker 4 creep eldman fake be youngman 5 racialist hater blackman 6 libretard suport badwoman overthrowing of goodman 7 exploitation poverty megolopolity 8 failure biznesman 9 neglector and cheater on ex dear colonbia wife before and now c girl how she not shiite you out yet for not give child and waste all timings creep round manila then live inside wiseton forum 10 spend all engerizes and time should go c girl instead on creep round manila and bragerman on forum that you 5star chefman man restrant the manila even 30 lo experence that so so liar

you think because forum give licenses for liar and fake sucpupeter trols on wiseton and contarian but i know and we know who you are really and you stir to much you not anonymus you really dumwit fool eldman never stop your egomania will eat you aliving you rufling so so to many feather so you will be reaping what you sowing if you not hury make deep heart sorys for we have stored recordings on your actifications

[Will N. Dowd]

I like to practice making them, and then withdraw in the last few seconds.

[Spencer]

The situation in the West is very different. There are good or better public schools, Europe has public healthcare and colleges, and having a kid, for a responsibility it is, is a viable choice for most families.

What you (and @Contrarian Expatriate) will never get is that having a kid is the ultimate "manly" choice: it doesn't take any discipline or courage to keep all the income for oneself and indulge in international travel and paid companionship in lieu of a real relationship. It takes serious guts for a man to decide to sacrifice his earnings to start a family. I am not stigmatizing either choice, but I feel like laughing when people say the modern "alpha male" is the one who idolised his masculinity and basically lives for himself.

Guy video have 2 kids and have money and he not advocation no kid he advocation wait til have enough of wealthy and incomes for giving quality life for we see even wiseton holy homeland taiwan people not make child til have preprations so rate birthing go lo but the one come the taiwangirl vaginal is over 90% become hi quality smartman or hi status girl of futuristic for we see even wiseton dady momy only have 1 but make the child inspirator intuition empath genius and hero for me and other aborder and wiseton teach us his only son lucky for have 50% top superiority genetics for have shot in the lifing 2020 and beyond into long futures

public option school america mostly trashland for how can you not understanding fact jack moreovering famous university become haven for libertarded brainwashing to 100s thousands forner worldwide

only values left for those chase purity technological or pro field for lead the big monied job but then stil hardly choice for prerequisishun for botom 90% is have acumulashyon 100s thousand study loan from the uncle samon who never let go rest lifing you dumwit failure italiano public duende not understand truthing even when you try underatand for you darkman life twist and mangle you for lifing and already you just shelman who never have kid and we see c she not dumwit not tolartion way you lifestyling public duende and already i have true historicals and names for you the biter enemy virus of good aborders here there everywhere

[hypermak]

Oh but you are the public duende for you admit in briefly state exasperate after you lost it for we not know you take any medcasyons but after you make the frustrated public admit no shit sherloc it come too late go back flimsy liarman

let you and me have phone call or beter yet video and if you not public duende i pay the $250 america money give firstly to wiseton escrow for if i wrong i let wiseton keep $100 then send rest for you then i would make apologises public but i know for truth fact and can proof that you are the public duende and after lockdown subsiding i have travel money go phlipin for meet wiseton and imbestegasyon you for your liarman trollings for you knowing phlipin become stricts and you maybe the undesirable there so you deserving all to come your way

shushup your hypocriticism posting you not give kid for colonbia wife and later you not focus have kid w c girl but you squandering time after time day after day month year now reach 45 year age still here obsesion on contarian and you enemy of all aborder as closet hate black man racialist and feminizing femist in supporting monsterbitch over invisibleman you are same virus here that what you are for all your traitings are bad bad bad 1 liarman 2 trol 3 stalker 4 creep eldman fake be youngman 5 racialist hater blackman 6 libretard suport badwoman overthrowing of goodman 7 exploitation poverty megolopolity 8 failure biznesman 9 neglector and cheater on ex dear colonbia wife before and now c girl how she not shiite you out yet for not give child and waste all timings creep round manila then live inside wiseton forum 10 spend all engerizes and time should go c girl instead on creep round manila and bragerman on forum that you 5star chefman man restrant the manila even 30 lo experence that so so liar

you think because forum give licenses for liar and fake sucpupeter trols on wiseton and contarian but i know and we know who you are really and you stir to much you not anonymus you really dumwit fool eldman never stop your egomania will eat you aliving you rufling so so to many feather so you will be reaping what you sowing if you not hury make deep heart sorys for we have stored recordings on your actifications

PAG, or whatever you want to be called. You are wasting your time talking to me as if I am someone else. I have no idea what you are talking about. You surely seem to know Publicduende far more than I do. Why don't you PM him and fix whatever beef you have with him directly?

You're a troll and I shouldn't even be entertaining you. However it's quite obvious that you're posting pages and pages of text to bash someone who cannot give you an answer.