Mandatory Politeness & Civility Sub-Forum

[WilliamSmith]

This little exchange between myself and @fschmidt I am re-quoting below pretty much says it all:

(On a side note, that concept actually occurred to me as a fun sub-forum idea: Those of us who agree about "Free speech absolutism" can gladly let the usual imbroglio go on in the forum at large, yet we could create a sub-forum as a sort of "gaming" arena where politeness, formality and civility are all mandatory and "rules of the game," but only in that particular sub-forum? )

I support this idea. You could post this idea to the Suggestions forum.

So I suggest the idea of having a sub-forum where *only on that particular sub-forum* (not infringing on the "free speech absolutism" that gloriously prevails on the rest of this 1-of-a-kind forum) we actually have a given set of rules mandating politeness, civility, and formality, with no ad-hominem attacks, insults, etc. Those specific rules could be threshed out in advance if we did it.

I'll add that I'm well aware that I'm one of the most vociferous "loose cannons" when it comes to virulent rhetoric, so I wasn't suggesting other people are somehow doing something wrong, just that it might be a productive sub-forum where we all agree to abide by the "rules of the game," even if free speech absolutism prevails elsewhere.

What do you think, @Winston?
@Pixel--dude (still hoping you'll be made an additional moderator at some point)
@gsjackson
@Outcast9428
@willymonfrete

(I named the above, thinking on them as some the "class acts" of the forum, as opposed to individuals, such as myself, @Lucas88, @Tsar, @WanderingProtagonist, @Cornfed, and others whose contributions I enjoy just as much, but tend to be more on the, erm... I don't know, "virulent" side?
That's not quite the word I'm looking for, but it's late, so time to hit the button and post this.

[Pixel--Dude]

This little exchange between myself and @fschmidt I am re-quoting below pretty much says it all:

(On a side note, that concept actually occurred to me as a fun sub-forum idea: Those of us who agree about "Free speech absolutism" can gladly let the usual imbroglio go on in the forum at large, yet we could create a sub-forum as a sort of "gaming" arena where politeness, formality and civility are all mandatory and "rules of the game," but only in that particular sub-forum? )

I support this idea. You could post this idea to the Suggestions forum.

So I suggest the idea of having a sub-forum where *only on that particular sub-forum* (not infringing on the "free speech absolutism" that gloriously prevails on the rest of this 1-of-a-kind forum) we actually have a given set of rules mandating politeness, civility, and formality, with no ad-hominem attacks, insults, etc. Those specific rules could be threshed out in advance if we did it.

I'll add that I'm well aware that I'm one of the most vociferous "loose cannons" when it comes to virulent rhetoric, so I wasn't suggesting other people are somehow doing something wrong, just that it might be a productive sub-forum where we all agree to abide by the "rules of the game," even if free speech absolutism prevails elsewhere.

What do you think, @Winston?
@Pixel--dude (still hoping you'll be made an additional moderator at some point)
@gsjackson
@Outcast9428
@willymonfrete

(I named the above, thinking on them as some the "class acts" of the forum, as opposed to individuals, such as myself, @Lucas88, @Tsar, @WanderingProtagonist, @Cornfed, and others whose contributions I enjoy just as much, but tend to be more on the, erm... I don't know, "virulent" side?
That's not quite the word I'm looking for, but it's late, so time to hit the button and post this.

I am a moderator now! I got the job!
I also think it's a good idea. Not got the hang of everything yet so I'd have no idea how to make this happen until I get used to the moderator panel etc. I don't see why not. I think people who want to discuss stuff without risk of getting set upon for their opinions might be good. Then people can only use their debate talking points. It might be interesting.

[WanderingProtagonist]

I honestly cannot help it really. I'm just always in a fighting mood, maybe that's why I tried to steer @Tsar away from engaging conflict, due to the fact I myself am constantly in a combatant mental state of mind. Life, I guess. I try to keep myself under control at times but it's difficult to do.

[kangarunner]

I honestly cannot help it really. I'm just always in a fighting mood, maybe that's why I tried to steer @Tsar away from engaging conflict, due to the fact I myself am constantly in a combatant mental state of mind. Life, I guess. I try to keep myself under control at times but it's difficult to do.

I'm just going to be honest here. The best thing to do to free your mind and become a calmer, happier person is travel. You said you're in California. Why not head down to Mexico for 2 weeks or more?

[Pixel--Dude]

I honestly cannot help it really. I'm just always in a fighting mood, maybe that's why I tried to steer @Tsar away from engaging conflict, due to the fact I myself am constantly in a combatant mental state of mind. Life, I guess. I try to keep myself under control at times but it's difficult to do.

Always here if you need someone to talk to. Just send me a private message and get stuff off your chest, man. One should always try and be as positive as possible. The lense in which you see the world is much brighter when you feel better about yourself.

I understand the world is a shitty place. I try and detach myself from the negatives and focus primarily on things that bring me personal happiness. Like creative stuff, some occasional gaming, seeing buddies, weight training or martial arts etc.

Hope you feel better soon, dude.

[Pixel--Dude]

This little exchange between myself and @fschmidt I am re-quoting below pretty much says it all:

(On a side note, that concept actually occurred to me as a fun sub-forum idea: Those of us who agree about "Free speech absolutism" can gladly let the usual imbroglio go on in the forum at large, yet we could create a sub-forum as a sort of "gaming" arena where politeness, formality and civility are all mandatory and "rules of the game," but only in that particular sub-forum? )

I support this idea. You could post this idea to the Suggestions forum.

So I suggest the idea of having a sub-forum where *only on that particular sub-forum* (not infringing on the "free speech absolutism" that gloriously prevails on the rest of this 1-of-a-kind forum) we actually have a given set of rules mandating politeness, civility, and formality, with no ad-hominem attacks, insults, etc. Those specific rules could be threshed out in advance if we did it.

I'll add that I'm well aware that I'm one of the most vociferous "loose cannons" when it comes to virulent rhetoric, so I wasn't suggesting other people are somehow doing something wrong, just that it might be a productive sub-forum where we all agree to abide by the "rules of the game," even if free speech absolutism prevails elsewhere.

What do you think, @Winston?
@Pixel--dude (still hoping you'll be made an additional moderator at some point)
@gsjackson
@Outcast9428
@willymonfrete

(I named the above, thinking on them as some the "class acts" of the forum, as opposed to individuals, such as myself, @Lucas88, @Tsar, @WanderingProtagonist, @Cornfed, and others whose contributions I enjoy just as much, but tend to be more on the, erm... I don't know, "virulent" side?
That's not quite the word I'm looking for, but it's late, so time to hit the button and post this.

Hey man, what about a poll to see what others think about your idea? It just gives us a general idea of what the larger community make of it.

[Outcast9428]

@WanderingProtagonist @kangarunner

I know it’s off topic but I would agree, how come you haven’t tried getting a wife from Mexico WanderingProtagonist? You are so close to there you could just drive there? You could find a wife in Mexico and then move to a better state in America with her? I don’t really feel like all hope is ever lost.

[WanderingProtagonist]

@WanderingProtagonist @kangarunner

I know it’s off topic but I would agree, how come you haven’t tried getting a wife from Mexico WanderingProtagonist? You are so close to there you could just drive there? You could find a wife in Mexico and then move to a better state in America with her? I don’t really feel like all hope is ever lost.

That's pointless Going to Mexico for a girl when I live in California and it's full of people from over there. CA is the largest Latino state in the U.S. and the majority of them are from Mexico. Bringing another one back over here when we have enough of them as it is make no sense. Might as well just live over there and I seen photos of Mexico, it's one ugly dangerous looking country. Probably why so many of them want to get over here even though the U.S. is just as fkin ugly.

[kangarunner]

That's pointless Going to Mexico for a girl when I live in California and it's full of people from over there. CA is the largest Latino state in the U.S. and the majority of them are from Mexico. Bringing another one back over here when we have enough of them as it is make no sense. Might as well just live over there and I seen photos of Mexico, it's one ugly dangerous looking country. Probably why so many of them want to get over here even though the U.S. is just as fkin ugly.

I didn't mean getting a girl. I meant getting away from the insanity of America and going to a more peaceful country for 2 weeks just to get away from the BS. Traveling makes you a calmer happier person.

[Outcast9428]

@WanderingProtagonist Like what Marcos said, a woman who’s actually in Mexico hasn’t been brainwashed by the leftism. @fschmidt says he was an incel for 10 years but he got a Mexican wife. What I would say is that you should move to like Texas, go south of the border and find a wife and bring her back here. You can prevent her from being “Westernized” as well if you introduce her to conservative friends and make sure you don’t have any liberal friends who might corrupt her.

[Outcast9428]

That's pointless Going to Mexico for a girl when I live in California and it's full of people from over there. CA is the largest Latino state in the U.S. and the majority of them are from Mexico. Bringing another one back over here when we have enough of them as it is make no sense. Might as well just live over there and I seen photos of Mexico, it's one ugly dangerous looking country. Probably why so many of them want to get over here even though the U.S. is just as fkin ugly.

I didn't mean getting a girl. I meant getting away from the insanity of America and going to a more peaceful country for 2 weeks just to get away from the BS. Traveling makes you a calmer happier person.

If he’s gonna leave his job for a couple weeks why not make the most of it? From what I understand he’s in his mid 30s. He’s gotta be proactive about finding a wife now. Especially if he’s trying to have kids.

[WanderingProtagonist]

That's pointless Going to Mexico for a girl when I live in California and it's full of people from over there. CA is the largest Latino state in the U.S. and the majority of them are from Mexico. Bringing another one back over here when we have enough of them as it is make no sense. Might as well just live over there and I seen photos of Mexico, it's one ugly dangerous looking country. Probably why so many of them want to get over here even though the U.S. is just as fkin ugly.

I didn't mean getting a girl. I meant getting away from the insanity of America and going to a more peaceful country for 2 weeks just to get away from the BS. Traveling makes you a calmer happier person.

If he’s gonna leave his job for a couple weeks why not make the most of it? From what I understand he’s in his mid 30s. He’s gotta be proactive about finding a wife now. Especially if he’s trying to have kids.

I hate kids. No patience what so ever in trying to raise any either. My Uncle is the same way and been married to the same black woman for years. I also have no interest in bringing kids into a world I can't afford to give them much other than disappointment. I'm too sick to even take care of myself. I would be totally useless trying to raise kids.

[WilliamSmith]

Hey man, what about a poll to see what others think about your idea? It just gives us a general idea of what the larger community make of it.

LOL, well this proves why you're so much better qualified to be a good moderator and member of this "community," because I personally don't really even give a f**k what all the woman-hating self-pitying manginosphere betas think, so don't give a shit about the "democratic" results of such a poll, but by all means, if you think it's a good idea.

However, a more positive observation: Even if we didn't do this on a subforum and have to take up your and other mods time enforcing any special rules there, I can still promise to @fschmidt that I'll respond to his interesting thoughts in his "Arkian" writing and politely discuss the issues of jews, ethnicity vs race, and community building and so on, without hurling any insults on that particular thread.
(With emphasis, of course, on that particular thread only, since I can be counted on to keep "spewing antisemitic, homophobic and transphobic" truths, as I recently had the honor of being accused of doing on the new Twitter by some jewish activists. ).

[WilliamSmith]

So which am I, virulent or a class act?

@MarcosZeitola
@publicduende

You're a unique case! I wouldn't say "virulent" at all for either of you. You both also contribute a lot of thought-provoking stuff I've enjoyed reading.

You seem like a class act sometimes. I'm also interested in your thoughts on fatherhood. (Live edit: Was just proof-reading this and then I was thrilled to see you may have a many as 10-15 children in the long run, and sound like a wonderful supportive father to your kids?? That's awesome!)
But..... then, on the other hand, I recently was struck speechless at the things you seem to have said that about how it'd supposedly be all right for most young women to be "chaste" to be supposedly good wife material, and yet said some young women to be serving in a sort of slave-like underclass as prostitutes to serve as men's sexual outlet?!
Disclaimer I might have remembered wrong, so pardon me if so, but speaking as the man of the forum who Cornfed has described as a "radical feminist," and which our jewish friend Mercer termed a "whiteknight cuck," I'm horrified at the moral repugnance of otherwise virtuous and worthwhile men who seem to think it's somehow OK for there to be a sort of underclass of women being used and abused FBO prostitution rackets.
(Note that if I read that earlier stuff wrong and was off the mark about what you actually said, I apologize and will correct myself, but I thought I read that a few days ago when I was catching up on older threads....)

In the end, it's all "raw" Happier Abroad talk: A very interesting mingling and discordant clashing of interesting and talkative minds and wildly disparate personalities and irreconcilable differences of opinion concerning bedrock moral values.... But that's what makes this forum so interesting, IMO.

Though I'm way behind on posting pictures of women with big butts.....

As for publicduende's case, I like him too, but we seem to have certain significant differences of opinions concerning the advisability of cornholing Pinoys (my view on the matter being: "No, such an act must not be done, regardless of whether they've dressed up in women's clothing and put on wigs or makeup or whatever," vs his view apparently being that it's supposedly OK, for reasons you guys were discussing in other threads).
He hasn't been shy about telling us about other sexual escapades in the Philippines either, which he seemed to be saying he wasn't especially proud of, yet has indulged in. (I believe he even mentioned being involved in some kind of "cuckolding" fiasco?? I've heard of that happening to white guys a lot in various parts of Asia. Being politely propositioned by a lot of women and a few men in Japan is one thing, but sounds like he's been livin' in sin to a larger degree than me.)

I myself obviously belong in "virulent," even if I mean well and can quite sincerely act the part of a "class act" and gentleman IRL in order to show respect to people. But on the HA forum, definitely "virulent," as opposed to "class act."
Ironically, I seem to have a more arch take on morality when it comes to the protection of children and families (and far moreso about protection of women, more than any of the other alleged "traditionalists" I've seen, except sort of @Outcast9428 who I appreciate for his idealistic romanticism), and am just as much a homophobe as MrMan despite my "virulent" polemicism about jews, homosexuals, and my sexual addiction and alcohol issues. *shrugs*

[WilliamSmith]

because I personally don't really even give a f**k what all the woman-hating self-pitying manginosphere betas think

I actually quite like women. Of course it depends on the individual woman. But a beautiful woman is a magical thing. I have enormous amounts of appreciation for a beautiful face or body. It hypnotizes me. It's hard for a man to be with many women and still carry around such feelings of bitterness; bitterness results from rejection, whereas being appreciated by women and allowed to bed them makes a man glow with confidence and pride. I've tried to spread this positivity around in the past on this forum, but to no avail.

@MarcosZeitola
Oh, I wasn't thinking of you in the slightest when I unleashed my latest rhetorical attack on " woman-hating self-pitying manginosphere betas," I've never seen you indulging in any of that sort of self-pity at all, and I rather gathered that you were a ladies' man yourself even before the shoutbox just informed me mere minutes ago that you already had a large family, LOL.

However, don't be so negative in assuming your attempts to encourage men and spread positivity have been to no avail: There's a lot of lurkers out there, after all.

As for women, I couldn't agree more, I love them so much they're pretty much my reason for living at this point. I like the fact that various things I do in my businesses or activities have at least some positive impact on other peoples' lives, but I'm really not motivated by anything other than women. Outcast9428 has some shared sentiments in this regard, which makes me happy.