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Winston wrote:
June 26th, 2023, 11:45 pm
Dr. David Martin speaks before the European Parliament about how Covid was man made and released on purpose and how the vaccine was a scam from the outset. Very bold and courageous. @Yohan pay attention to this. It appears that @Cornfed was right.
I am just back in my home after about 6 weeks away, I was with my family in Southern Japan and later on for 4 weeks in Thailand.

I don't care, what a Mr. David Martin says, it seems this person is not even a medical doctor, and there are various articles out on the internet about him, claiming he deliberately misrepresents studies and patent applications.

Link below refers to his speech you mention above.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/ ... bioweapon/

Also let me say, and I said it often in this forum, I don't care if somebody is vaccinated or not. I am ready now for my 6th covid-related vaccination next month for my own protection and I was never infected with covid so far, not in Japan, not in Philippines and not in Thailand.
Next will be seasonal flu vaccination around October.


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Yohan wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 6:58 am
Winston wrote:
June 26th, 2023, 11:45 pm
Dr. David Martin speaks before the European Parliament about how Covid was man made and released on purpose and how the vaccine was a scam from the outset. Very bold and courageous. @Yohan pay attention to this. It appears that @Cornfed was right.
I am just back in my home after about 6 weeks away, I was with my family in Southern Japan and later on for 4 weeks in Thailand.

I don't care, what a Mr. David Martin says, it seems this person is not even a medical doctor, and there are various articles out on the internet about him, claiming he deliberately misrepresents studies and patent applications.

Link below refers to his speech you mention above.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/ ... bioweapon/

Also let me say, and I said it often in this forum, I don't care if somebody is vaccinated or not. I am ready now for my 6th covid-related vaccination next month for my own protection and I was never infected with covid so far, not in Japan, not in Philippines and not in Thailand.
Next will be seasonal flu vaccination around October.
I know it Yohan, they are such idiots it's all unreal.
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Re: Risks of the Covid vaccine

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Yohan wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 6:58 am
Winston wrote:
June 26th, 2023, 11:45 pm
Dr. David Martin speaks before the European Parliament about how Covid was man made and released on purpose and how the vaccine was a scam from the outset. Very bold and courageous. @Yohan pay attention to this. It appears that @Cornfed was right.
I am just back in my home after about 6 weeks away, I was with my family in Southern Japan and later on for 4 weeks in Thailand.

I don't care, what a Mr. David Martin says, it seems this person is not even a medical doctor, and there are various articles out on the internet about him, claiming he deliberately misrepresents studies and patent applications.

Link below refers to his speech you mention above.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/ ... bioweapon/

Also let me say, and I said it often in this forum, I don't care if somebody is vaccinated or not. I am ready now for my 6th covid-related vaccination next month for my own protection and I was never infected with covid so far, not in Japan, not in Philippines and not in Thailand.
Next will be seasonal flu vaccination around October.
Wow.. you managed to take five COVID shots and survive and you are going to take the sixth? Are you Arnold Schwarzenegger or something?
Your one bad ass old man. :o :shock: Most people would've been dead by now. I hope you don't become an another casualty.
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Re: Risks of the Covid vaccine

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Winston wrote:
June 26th, 2023, 11:45 pm
Dr. David Martin speaks before the European Parliament about how Covid was man made and released on purpose and how the vaccine was a scam from the outset. Very bold and courageous. @Yohan pay attention to this. It appears that @Cornfed was right.



Great quote in the comments section:

“The vaccine was not brought in for COVID. COVID was brought in for the vaccine. Once you realize that, everything else makes sense.” ~ Dr. Reiner Fuellmich
That's why I never took the shot in the first place. Notice now how the media is quiet about COVID 19 because it's "officially over" according to the CDC.
However, those who took the jab for the last two years will die of heart failures in couple of years from now.
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Re: Risks of the Covid vaccine

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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 11:40 am
Yohan wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 6:58 am
Winston wrote:
June 26th, 2023, 11:45 pm
Dr. David Martin speaks before the European Parliament about how Covid was man made and released on purpose and how the vaccine was a scam from the outset. Very bold and courageous. @Yohan pay attention to this. It appears that @Cornfed was right.
I am just back in my home after about 6 weeks away, I was with my family in Southern Japan and later on for 4 weeks in Thailand.

I don't care, what a Mr. David Martin says, it seems this person is not even a medical doctor, and there are various articles out on the internet about him, claiming he deliberately misrepresents studies and patent applications.

Link below refers to his speech you mention above.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/ ... bioweapon/

Also let me say, and I said it often in this forum, I don't care if somebody is vaccinated or not. I am ready now for my 6th covid-related vaccination next month for my own protection and I was never infected with covid so far, not in Japan, not in Philippines and not in Thailand.
Next will be seasonal flu vaccination around October.
Wow.. you managed to take five COVID shots and survive and you are going to take the sixth? Are you Arnold Schwarzenegger or something?
Your one bad ass old man. :o :shock: Most people would've been dead by now. I hope you don't become an another casualty.
He is Arnold but the T101 Arnold, you didn't know Yohan was a ROBOT ? It's like the Tin Man in the Wizard of OZ. The Graphene Oxide in the Vaccines act as a super lubricant for him... He loves them!
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 11:40 am
Wow.. you managed to take five COVID shots and survive and you are going to take the sixth? Are you Arnold Schwarzenegger or something?
Your one bad ass old man. :o :shock: Most people would've been dead by now. I hope you don't become an another casualty.
No. 6 shot is ready for me end of next week, already reserved. (pfizer BA-1, same as No. 5 shot) - no problems, any side effects disappeared within one day or so. Despite travelling around in Japan and also in Thailand and Philippines, I never got covid-19.

In Japan approx. 400 million shots totally (No. 1 to No. 6) were given to people who decided to accept the covid-19 free of charge vaccinations and were showing up with the application form from the National Health Insurance.

So far only Pfizer and Moderna passed all required Japanese tests successfully. Now no other vaccine is available.

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About vaccinations in general, I get regular shots against seasonal flu and also every 5 years against pneumonia since 2008. Very helpful, never suffered of pneumonia, bronchitis and seasonal flu during the last 15 years again. What others are doing, I don't care.
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Yohan wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 9:44 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 11:40 am
Wow.. you managed to take five COVID shots and survive and you are going to take the sixth? Are you Arnold Schwarzenegger or something?
Your one bad ass old man. :o :shock: Most people would've been dead by now. I hope you don't become an another casualty.
No. 6 shot is ready for me end of next week, already reserved. (pfizer BA-1, same as No. 5 shot) - no problems, any side effects disappeared within one day or so. Despite travelling around in Japan and also in Thailand and Philippines, I never got covid-19.

In Japan approx. 400 million shots totally (No. 1 to No. 6) were given to people who decided to accept the covid-19 free of charge vaccinations and were showing up with the application form from the National Health Insurance.

So far only Pfizer and Moderna passed all required Japanese tests successfully. Now no other vaccine is available.

----

About vaccinations in general, I get regular shots against seasonal flu and also every 5 years against pneumonia since 2008. Very helpful, never suffered of pneumonia, bronchitis and seasonal flu during the last 15 years again. What others are doing, I don't care.
Kudos to you old man. Most people I know of took the shot and they get real bad side effects like heart complications or weakening of heart muscles. Your a badass. I wish you well. I never took the shot anyway and I am still fine. Maybe because I stayed out of the restaurants or crowded places and always wore masks.
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Re: Risks of the Covid vaccine

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Winston wrote:
June 26th, 2023, 11:45 pm
Dr. David Martin speaks before the European Parliament about how Covid was man made and released on purpose and how the vaccine was a scam from the outset. Very bold and courageous. @Yohan pay attention to this. It appears that @Cornfed was right.



Great quote in the comments section:

“The vaccine was not brought in for COVID. COVID was brought in for the vaccine. Once you realize that, everything else makes sense.” ~ Dr. Reiner Fuellmich
Does Yohan believe in the natural origins claim?
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Re: Risks of the Covid vaccine

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Moretorque wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 1:21 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 11:40 am
Yohan wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 6:58 am
Winston wrote:
June 26th, 2023, 11:45 pm
Dr. David Martin speaks before the European Parliament about how Covid was man made and released on purpose and how the vaccine was a scam from the outset. Very bold and courageous. @Yohan pay attention to this. It appears that @Cornfed was right.
I am just back in my home after about 6 weeks away, I was with my family in Southern Japan and later on for 4 weeks in Thailand.

I don't care, what a Mr. David Martin says, it seems this person is not even a medical doctor, and there are various articles out on the internet about him, claiming he deliberately misrepresents studies and patent applications.

Link below refers to his speech you mention above.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/ ... bioweapon/

Also let me say, and I said it often in this forum, I don't care if somebody is vaccinated or not. I am ready now for my 6th covid-related vaccination next month for my own protection and I was never infected with covid so far, not in Japan, not in Philippines and not in Thailand.
Next will be seasonal flu vaccination around October.
Wow.. you managed to take five COVID shots and survive and you are going to take the sixth? Are you Arnold Schwarzenegger or something?
Your one bad ass old man. :o :shock: Most people would've been dead by now. I hope you don't become an another casualty.
He is Arnold but the T101 Arnold, you didn't know Yohan was a ROBOT ? It's like the Tin Man in the Wizard of OZ. The Graphene Oxide in the Vaccines act as a super lubricant for him... He loves them!
Graphene oxide was a red herring. Pathologist, Ryan Cole explained the origin of that fallacious claim.
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
June 28th, 2023, 7:01 am
Yohan wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 9:44 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 11:40 am
Wow.. you managed to take five COVID shots and survive and you are going to take the sixth? Are you Arnold Schwarzenegger or something?
Your one bad ass old man. :o :shock: Most people would've been dead by now. I hope you don't become an another casualty.
No. 6 shot is ready for me end of next week, already reserved. (pfizer BA-1, same as No. 5 shot) - no problems, any side effects disappeared within one day or so. Despite travelling around in Japan and also in Thailand and Philippines, I never got covid-19.
In Japan approx. 400 million shots totally (No. 1 to No. 6) were given to people who decided to accept the covid-19 free of charge vaccinations and were showing up with the application form from the National Health Insurance.
So far only Pfizer and Moderna passed all required Japanese tests successfully. Now no other vaccine is available.
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About vaccinations in general, I get regular shots against seasonal flu and also every 5 years against pneumonia since 2008. Very helpful, never suffered of pneumonia, bronchitis and seasonal flu during the last 15 years again. What others are doing, I don't care.
Kudos to you old man. Most people I know of took the shot and they get real bad side effects like heart complications or weakening of heart muscles. Your a badass. I wish you well. I never took the shot anyway and I am still fine. Maybe because I stayed out of the restaurants or crowded places and always wore masks.
To stay away from restaurants and other crowded places makes sense, also good quality masks make also sense, especially if you face another person nearby and that person is also using a mask. Most virus related infections are however entering the body because of your own unclean hands, to use alcohol to wash them frequently helps too.

Yes, I took yesterday morning the covid-19 shot no. 6, and today 24 hours later all side effects are gone, my left arm is not painful anymore and I am not sleepy anymore. MY first mRNA with Pfizer was in July 2021, two years ago and I was never infected with covid-19, despite travelling to Thailand 3 times and 1 time to Philippines and made several trips around Japan, also within the crowded large cities using public transport. I was never infected with covid-19 and so far I am still alive and also during the regular health checks no side effects have been found.

So far about 16 million Japanese people took the #6 covid-19 vaccination - only Pfizer and Moderna are available and it is free of charge - other vaccines failed to fully qualify, as the Japanese standard is very strict and requires testing with more than 60.000 humans under Japanese supervision before being approved.

Partially approved is AstraZeneca, a non mRNA vaccine and produced locally in Japan. It can be ordered on special request, but only for people 40+ and with reduced dose, as it was found to be effective, but causing sometimes blood clots when using the full dose with younger people.

----------------------------------------------------

Up to the individual, what you decide to do in Japan, many show up for free vaccination, but surely not everybody. We cannot know if people passing by next to you are vaccinated or not. Just care about yourself, don't care what the others are doing.
There was never any lockdown or any other restriction here in Japan.

You have however to consider, that Japan and South Korea have been always the first countries which have been hit severely by this covid-19 virus from China since it started and everybody here mistrusts this dishonest Chinese government, which is only into cover up medical issues regarding covid-19 and is not helpful towards its neighbors.

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Ministry of Health, Japan, official statement
https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/covid-19/vaccine.html
Consent to vaccination
Although we encourage all citizens to receive the COVID-19 vaccination, it is not compulsory or mandatory. Vaccination will be given only with the consent of the person to be vaccinated after the information provided. Please get vaccinated of your own decision, understanding both the effectiveness in preventing infectious diseases and the risk of side effects. No vaccination will be given without consent. Please do not force anyone in your workplace or those who around you to be vaccinated, and do not discriminate against those who have not been vaccinated.
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rudder wrote:
July 1st, 2023, 6:41 pm
Graphene oxide was a red herring. Pathologist, Ryan Cole explained the origin of that fallacious claim.
True, Pfizer vaccine does not contain graphene oxide, the FDA again confirmed it.
It is said the same about Moderna, but I cannot find anything from FDA confirming it.

https://twitter.com/US_FDA/status/16458 ... 24?lang=en
U.S. FDA
@US_FDA
Graphene oxide is NOT an ingredient in the vaccine. You're referring to a record produced by FDA under a court order. The Pfizer record was submitted to FDA & is 14 pages, “Structural and Biophysical Characterization of SARS-CoV-2 Spike Glycoprotein (P2 S) as a Vaccine Antigen.”
4:14 AM · Apr 12, 2023

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-f ... 8165173107
Published 2:25 AM GMT+9, April 8, 2023

CLAIM: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration released documents from Pfizer that confirm graphene oxide is in its COVID-19 vaccine.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The vaccine does not contain graphene oxide, the FDA again confirmed to The Associated Press. The document being cited online does not say anything about vaccine manufacturing, but instead describes using graphene oxide during a process of evaluating the vaccine’s spike protein under a microscope.

THE FACTS: The ingredients for Pfizer’s COVID-19 are publicly available. The shot does not include graphene oxide — a material made by oxidizing graphite — as experts and Pfizer have previously told the AP.
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Yohan wrote:
July 6th, 2023, 8:54 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
June 28th, 2023, 7:01 am
Yohan wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 9:44 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
June 27th, 2023, 11:40 am
Wow.. you managed to take five COVID shots and survive and you are going to take the sixth? Are you Arnold Schwarzenegger or something?
Your one bad ass old man. :o :shock: Most people would've been dead by now. I hope you don't become an another casualty.
No. 6 shot is ready for me end of next week, already reserved. (pfizer BA-1, same as No. 5 shot) - no problems, any side effects disappeared within one day or so. Despite travelling around in Japan and also in Thailand and Philippines, I never got covid-19.
In Japan approx. 400 million shots totally (No. 1 to No. 6) were given to people who decided to accept the covid-19 free of charge vaccinations and were showing up with the application form from the National Health Insurance.
So far only Pfizer and Moderna passed all required Japanese tests successfully. Now no other vaccine is available.
----
About vaccinations in general, I get regular shots against seasonal flu and also every 5 years against pneumonia since 2008. Very helpful, never suffered of pneumonia, bronchitis and seasonal flu during the last 15 years again. What others are doing, I don't care.
Kudos to you old man. Most people I know of took the shot and they get real bad side effects like heart complications or weakening of heart muscles. Your a badass. I wish you well. I never took the shot anyway and I am still fine. Maybe because I stayed out of the restaurants or crowded places and always wore masks.
To stay away from restaurants and other crowded places makes sense, also good quality masks make also sense, especially if you face another person nearby and that person is also using a mask. Most virus related infections are however entering the body because of your own unclean hands, to use alcohol to wash them frequently helps too.

Yes, I took yesterday morning the covid-19 shot no. 6, and today 24 hours later all side effects are gone, my left arm is not painful anymore and I am not sleepy anymore. MY first mRNA with Pfizer was in July 2021, two years ago and I was never infected with covid-19, despite travelling to Thailand 3 times and 1 time to Philippines and made several trips around Japan, also within the crowded large cities using public transport. I was never infected with covid-19 and so far I am still alive and also during the regular health checks no side effects have been found.

So far about 16 million Japanese people took the #6 covid-19 vaccination - only Pfizer and Moderna are available and it is free of charge - other vaccines failed to fully qualify, as the Japanese standard is very strict and requires testing with more than 60.000 humans under Japanese supervision before being approved.

Partially approved is AstraZeneca, a non mRNA vaccine and produced locally in Japan. It can be ordered on special request, but only for people 40+ and with reduced dose, as it was found to be effective, but causing sometimes blood clots when using the full dose with younger people.

----------------------------------------------------

Up to the individual, what you decide to do in Japan, many show up for free vaccination, but surely not everybody. We cannot know if people passing by next to you are vaccinated or not. Just care about yourself, don't care what the others are doing.
There was never any lockdown or any other restriction here in Japan.

You have however to consider, that Japan and South Korea have been always the first countries which have been hit severely by this covid-19 virus from China since it started and everybody here mistrusts this dishonest Chinese government, which is only into cover up medical issues regarding covid-19 and is not helpful towards its neighbors.

-----------------------------------------------------------

Ministry of Health, Japan, official statement
https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/covid-19/vaccine.html
Consent to vaccination
Although we encourage all citizens to receive the COVID-19 vaccination, it is not compulsory or mandatory. Vaccination will be given only with the consent of the person to be vaccinated after the information provided. Please get vaccinated of your own decision, understanding both the effectiveness in preventing infectious diseases and the risk of side effects. No vaccination will be given without consent. Please do not force anyone in your workplace or those who around you to be vaccinated, and do not discriminate against those who have not been vaccinated.
No thanks.. I wouldn't want to take my chances in getting the vaccine. I hope your doing ok. The Pandemic is officially over anyway.
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The vaccine didn't seem to very helpful but it also doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the conspiracy theorists think it is. I don't know anyone who died or had serious side effects from the vaccine but it also didn't protect them from getting Covid again. I'm sure there are some people who have side effects but that normally happens with drugs and vaccines. The actual total amount that had adverse effects seems very small. There's also no proof that the people who died suddenly did so because they were vaccinated.
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My life is garbage wrote:
July 7th, 2023, 9:01 am
The vaccine didn't seem to very helpful but it also doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the conspiracy theorists think it is.
Perhaps you could explain how you think the shot as narratised to you makes any sense - after you have made sure your shots are up to date of course.
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Cornfed wrote:
July 7th, 2023, 9:04 am
My life is garbage wrote:
July 7th, 2023, 9:01 am
The vaccine didn't seem to very helpful but it also doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the conspiracy theorists think it is.
Perhaps you could explain how you think the shot as narratised to you makes any sense - after you have made sure your shots are up to date of course.
That doesn't prove it's as dangerous as you make it out to be. I think the conspiracy theorists want it to be more harmful than it really is so they desperately search for any unusual sudden death and blame it on the vaccine. I know plenty of active, normal people who are fully vaccinated and have no health problems and are alive just fine. If it was so dangerous this wouldn't be the case.
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