Risks of the Covid vaccine

[Cornfed]

Anyway I took the first two doses of Pfizer about a year ago.

So you took the clot shot knowing that it is medically unnecessary and intended to genocide people in the hopes that it is only the later boosters that will be fatal. That is a new take on the lemming mentality.

[CaptainSkelebob]

There are always risks with vaccines and other medicines
Would you take paracetamol??? A tetanus???
Well guess what there are risks to taking things like that
The benefits outweigh the risks and ppl refusing to just have the jab and refusing to stay home made the situation drag on longer than it had to!!!

[Cornfed]

There are always risks with vaccines and other medicines
Would you take paracetamol??? A tetanus???
Well guess what there are risks to taking things like that
The benefits outweigh the risks and ppl refusing to just have the jab and refusing to stay home made the situation drag on longer than it had to!!!

Real people have the ability to evaluate the risks of things based on their own individual merits on the basis of information. Since you lack this ability you are just the sort of person the jabs were designed for and should absolutely take any injections put in front of you, and would it kill you to take all the available jabs from different companies in different locations just so you can be sure you have derived all the possible benefits the jabs have to offer?

[CaptainSkelebob]

Did you evaluate the risks you posed to others around you as well???
Or just evaluate the risks to yourself???
I am a gambling man so I would wager that you and the other antivax mob wouldnt even think twice about taking an asprin or a paracetamol
Why is the covid jab any different???
It just seems selfish to me
Do you not worry you could infect an elderly family member???
Do you want old granny blood on your hands because you were too proud to get a jab?

[Cornfed]

Did you evaluate the risks you posed to others around you as well???
Or just evaluate the risks to yourself???
I am a gambling man so I would wager that you and the other antivax mob wouldnt even think twice about taking an asprin or a paracetamol
Why is the covid jab any different???
It just seems selfish to me
Do you not worry you could infect an elderly family member???
Do you want old granny blood on your hands because you were too proud to get a jab?

Eh, I've been posting about the subject on here and other forums for 2.5 years and all of my predictions are ether mainstream now or soon will be. If you are serious about the crap you are posting you must have been living in a cave on Mars or something. In any case, the solution is for you to continue to take as many jabs as possible.

[Yohan]

Did you evaluate the risks you posed to others around you as well???
Or just evaluate the risks to yourself???
I am a gambling man so I would wager that you and the other antivax mob wouldnt even think twice about taking an asprin or a paracetamol
Why is the covid jab any different???
It just seems selfish to me
Do you not worry you could infect an elderly family member???
Do you want old granny blood on your hands because you were too proud to get a jab?

These are valid questions, but it is timewaste to argue with Cornfed and other anti-vaxxers about it.

We have no problem about anti-vaxxers in Japan.
This issue can be easily solved if the government remains neutral about it and does not force its citizens into vaccination.

We have here now about 2 million Japanese infected, but nobody really cares about them.
Most of these infected people who suffer with bone pain, coughing, headache etc. for up to 10 days did not join the 4th vaccination booster and are not older than 40 years. Elderly people often accept the covid vaccination and are sometimes not even aware that they are infected, no symptoms at all...

It's clearly a difference if you are vaccinated or not, but up to you.
The Japanese government sends you an invitation for free vaccination, up to you if you show up or not.

I have already 4 shots (2x pfizer, 2x moderna + international certificate + seasonal flu and pneumonia vaccination) and I never had covid (confirmed several times during/after my trip abroad with RT-PCR tests not long time ago) and I will leave soon again to my second home in Thailand.

The best is just don't care what others are doing. No discussion with anti-vaxxers. It's not my body which is ending up in the ICU on a medical ventilator or ECMO.

Ministry of Health, Japan
https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/covid-19/vaccine.html

Consent to vaccination
Although we encourage all citizens to receive the COVID-19 vaccination, it is not compulsory or mandatory. Vaccination will be given only with the consent of the person to be vaccinated after the information provided. Please get vaccinated of your own decision, understanding both the effectiveness in preventing infectious diseases and the risk of side effects. No vaccination will be given without consent.

Please do not force anyone in your workplace or those who around you to be vaccinated, and do not discriminate against those who have not been vaccinated.

[Shemp]

Did you evaluate the risks you posed to others around you as well???
Or just evaluate the risks to yourself???
I am a gambling man so I would wager that you and the other antivax mob wouldnt even think twice about taking an asprin or a paracetamol
Why is the covid jab any different???
It just seems selfish to me
Do you not worry you could infect an elderly family member???
Do you want old granny blood on your hands because you were too proud to get a jab?

The jab does not protect against infection or transmission of infection to others. It merely reduces severity of the infection because the immune system is primed. Only mandatory quarantine of those infected with covid would help protect vulnerable people, same as for tuberculosis or measles and chickenpox, which are similar to covid in that they are aerosol transmitted, so a carrier can infect an entire city just by walking around and breathing. As it turns out, we have good vaccines for measles and chickenpox, plus they are no longer as dangerous as before, since genetically vulnerable people mostly died out. In old days, quarantine of measles patients was essential to protect native Americans, who are very vulnerable to measles. Quarantine still needed for drug resistant tuberculosis.

I was delighted to get 2 doses of the powerful J&J covid vaccine. I could actually feel my immune system reacting to the jolt of that spike protein in my system the day after my second jab. Per @Cornfed's recommendation, I did a set of intense pullups immediately after leaving the jab center, then hopped on my bicycle to resume touring, which involves high intensity exercise when going uphill. Can't wait to get another jab this autumn.

I certainly did not get the jab to protect other people. It was mainly to meet travel requirements and secondarily to protect myself (I'm low risk category, otherwise that would be primary consideration). I believe vaccines should be optional, but non vaxxed should go to end of line if shortage of treatment facilities and they should get no government help (including Medicare or other government health insurance or free government healthcare) if they get sick. I would especially like to be able to wag my finger in Cornfed's face, as he lies gasping on the sidewalk outside the hospital, to which he is denied admittance because of his antivax views, his male model body withering away as covid eats at his health, and say: "You got exactly what you deserve."

[CaptainSkelebob]

Who should we listen to???
Cornfed who has talked about this for 2.5 years?
Or medical experts who have been in the field for years?? LoL

[CaptainSkelebob]

Are we seriously to believe that every doctor, nurse and scientist is wrong??? And somehow these anti vaxxers think they know best. Because they watched some buck toothed redneck on YouTube talking about "MUUUUH FREEDUUUUUMS!"

[Cornfed]

Are we seriously to believe that every doctor, nurse and scientist is wrong???

Yes, or more correctly we are seriously to believe that the world is run by a nefarious cabal that wants to thin our numbers somewhat and most of the medical establishment are selected to be lickspittles who go along with them. But it is of no consequence - just keep taking your meds and you won't have to worry about it for much longer.

[CaptainSkelebob]

Ah...... the evil cabal type.....
Why would they poison all those who get on with life and let all the problematic people live???
If I was a dark lord in charge of an evil cabal then I would give all my loyal subjects the vaccine to a deadly virus I would release afterwards
So maybe you are right but in the wrong way....
In any case it is ironic that you are telling me to go take my medication.....

[Cornfed]

Why would they poison all those who get on with life and let all the problematic people live???

Because you've served your purpose. Most of the tasks that stupid, compliant people do can be automated now. Hence you really are just useless eaters and the elite are cleaning up after themselves by getting rid of you. How does one get rid of stupid, compliant people? The vax is a pretty good way, and to their credit the elite ensured that only the stupidest, must credulous and cowardly lickspittles would fall for it. Of course you know I'm only joking and you should keep taking your shots, right?

[Cornfed]

Maybe I love the global elite now. They are not sparing Israeli retards. Here is a post pointing out the surge in deaths in Israel started not with the scamdemic but with the vax.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563848349777887234

[flowerthief01]

Are we seriously to believe that every doctor, nurse and scientist is wrong??? And somehow these anti vaxxers think they know best. Because they watched some buck toothed redneck on YouTube talking about "MUUUUH FREEDUUUUUMS!"

Implicit in this rhetorical question is the ignorant assumption that every doctor, nurse, and scientist agreed with each other to begin with...assuming we don't desire censorship and destruction of the careers of all who dissent from THE GOSPEL OF MASS VACCINATION to be an acceptable means to achieve consensus. (as was, for instance, undertaken by Fauci and Collins in response to the Great Barrington Declaration) That's without counting nurses quitting over mandates, etc.

It is precisely because I have a tremendous respect for good science that I call out the "vax everybody and their kids too" push (with an experimental drug whose long-terms effect we don't know, no less!) and its surrounding narrative as not being such. Rather, it resembles, as I've often said, a fundamentalist religious cult more than it resembles science. It's when scientists are not agreeing with each other that you have a better bet that good science is actually being done.

Oh, speaking of myocarditis, have we all heard the study coming from Thailand showing 29% of adolescents had cardiovascular damage after the jab? Sure, most effects were mild, but the takeaway is that 29% figure. When I told a friend one year ago that myocarditis was one of the side effects he responded, "but it's rare." Now I can put this in his pipe and make him smoke it, because whatever else we can say, 29% is NOT ''rare''. (Incidentally, that same jabbed friend went on to catch covid while I never did. But I didn't get on his case for that. More important to harp on the distortions about "safe" than the distortions about "effective", distortions though they both may be)

[WilliamSmith]

Maybe I love the global elite now. They are not sparing Israeli retards. Here is a post pointing out the surge in deaths in Israel started not with the scamdemic but with the vax.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563848349777887234

Better than nothing, but I'm a bit disappointed by the lower-than-hope for death rates... Hopefully all the sodomy and other rapacious jewish perversion there will result in a massive monkeypox outbreak as well, so that they can declare an additional nation-wide israeli health emergency and vax and boost themselves continuously until they improve these disappointingly low figures .
[ Edit: Actually, I took a second look recalling this is only the end of August, and realized they broke the death rates record in 2022 only up through July, so that's actually better than I thought, but hopefully we'll see an even better improvement soon. ]


Got this pic in my email from our friend Roosh, by the way, who said:

Hello,

You must change your behavior to stop COVID but gays don't need to change their behavior to stop the diseases they spread...