HIV = AIDS: Fact or Fraud?

[odbo]

Skip to 30:00 and explain that one to me. Part of the "10 reasons HIV does not cause AIDS"

documentary website: http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com/
other info: http://notaids.com/en/hivfiction

[momopi]

On the other side of the spectrum:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_denialism
http://www.aidstruth.org/

[odbo]

As a rule I don't read wikipedia articles beyond the first few sentences (which define the concept), because wiki is pure propaganda. You have to have your head stuck really far up your ass to not sense that the official story doesn't add up. What is the truth? I don't know. But if there is nothing to hide, why do they censor opposing views instead of looking at people's concerns and ending the confusion?

Dr R. Willner injects himself "HIV" at a press conference

[Winston]

Dr Robert Willner Injects "HIV" into himself on TV

Dr. Willner is author of Deadly Deception: The Proof that Sex and 'HIV' Absolutely Do Not Cause 'AIDS'. So determined was Dr. Willner to prove to the world that 'AIDS' was not spread sexually or through blood contamination, that he stunned the nation of Spain in 1993 by inoculating himself on TV with the blood of Pedro Tocino, a haemophiliac said to be 'HIV positive'. The footage was broadcast throughout Europe. Encouraged by the coverage he was receiving, Willner repeated his performance with different patients in front of the cameras of ABC and NBC. Surprisingly no US network reported this dramatic news on national television. Up until his untimely death, Dr. Willner remained 'HIV negative' in spite of constant testing.

[Winston]

I don't understand something. If drugs cause AIDS, then how come there are victims of AIDS who haven't taken the drugs? What is the AIDS denialists' explanation of that?

[Winston]

House of Numbers, Full Documentary

In House of Numbers: Anatomy of an Epidemic, an AIDS film like no other, the HIV/AIDS story is being rewritten. This is the first film to present the uncensored POVs of virtually all the major players; in their own settings, in their own words. It rocks the foundation upon which all conventional wisdom
regarding HIV/AIDS is based. House of Numbers could well be the opening volley in a battle to bring sanity and clarity to an epidemic gone awry.



House of Numbers Website
http://www.houseofnumbers.com

Purchase the DVD here
http://www.houseofnumbers.com/site/buy-the-dvd
Be sure to checkout the Deluxe Edition with two additional DVDs.

[Winston]

HIV=AIDS: Fact or Fraud? A Stephen Allen film.

A shocking documentary that exposes
HIV/AIDS as a deceptive and deadly scam

This is a systematic dissection of the HIV/AID$ machine and how they hijacked a program designed to fight a worldwide plight of human suffering and drove it down the road to hell. Yet this program offers hope, inspired by the courage and articulate arguments of a group of growing voices internationally challenging the HIV=AIDS=DEATH hysteria. A MUST SEE for anyone interested in truly understanding the facts about HIV/AID$.

http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com/producer.htm



The Other Side of AIDS

Winner of the Special Jury Prize at the AFI Los Angeles International Film Festival, THE OTHER SIDE OF AIDS gives voice to a growing global movement of doctors, scientists, journalists and HIV positives who are challenging the idea that HIV is the cause of AIDS. Scovill's third feature film, THE OTHER SIDE OF AIDS takes an unflinching look beyond the hype and the headlines and into an issue the mainstream media doesn't dare touch: the failure of the multi billion-dollar war on AIDS.

http://www.robinscovill.com/othersideofaids.html



AIDS Inc. A Gary Null Film

AIDS, Inc. is a film about the multi-billion dollar AIDS industry, and how it profits from continuing fears and misconceptions about the disease. While AIDS grabs the headlines and raises billions of dollars with celebrity endorsements and billionaire endowments, we are no closer to finding a cure than when the scourge first appeared 30 years ago. Could it be that after so many years of research, and so much money being spent, that the entire orthodox medical establishment has been wrong about AIDS, or even worse, has sought to profit on a system that it knew was flawed from the beginning?



Deconstructing The Myth Of AIDS Gary Null



The Aids Myth and Deception, The Real Disease is Malnutrition and Drugs

Are New Drug Treatments Responsible for Declines in AIDS?

Government officials, AIDS organizations and the media unanimously agree that the recent decline in AIDS cases and deaths is an unprecedented occurrence due to a new combination of drugs that include protease inhibitors, chemicals said to block the replication of HIV. However, a careful look behind the headlines reveals that there is no medical evidence to support these popular claims about the protease inhibitor "combo cocktails.
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The declines in AIDS deaths attributed to combination therapies actually began several years before protease inhibitor drugs became available for general use. (72) Since the first protease inhibitor received Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval in December of 1995, a more likely explanation for decreased deaths would be the change in the official AIDS definition adopted in 1993 which allows HIV positives with no symptoms or illness to be diagnosed with AIDS. Since 1993, more than half of all newly diagnosed AIDS cases are counted among people who are not sick.
(73)
CDC data also show that decreases in AIDS cases commonly ascribed to "AIDS cocktails" preceded the introduction of the new drug treatments by three full years. According to the CDC's HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report, AIDS diagnoses peaked in the third quarter of 1991, increased once in the first quarter of 1993 as a result of the 1993 expanded AIDS definition, and have dropped each year since.
(75)
News stories of AIDS patients who rise from their death beds to run marathons after taking the drug cocktails, are just that -- stories. In science, such unverified accounts are dismissed as anecdotal, a term that comes from the Greek word anekdotos, meaning unpublished.
None of the anecdotal tales of recoveries attributed to new drug combinations have been substantiated by controlled studies published in peer-reviewed medical journals, a fact acknowledged in the fine print of pharmaceutical advertisements:
"At this time there is no evidence that Ziagen will help you live longer or have fewer of the medical problems associated with HIV or AIDS.
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"It is not yet known whether Crixivan will extend your life or reduce your chances of getting other illnesses associated with HIV.
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"At present, there are no results from controlled clinical trials evaluating the effects of Viramune [on] the incidence of opportunistic infections or survival.
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"There have been no clinical trials conducted with Combivir.

[Winston]

I don't understand something. Do people only die of AIDS if they are taking AZT? Has anyone who has never taken AZT and don't even know that they have AIDS, ever died from it? These films don't answer that question, which is at the crux of the issue.

Are there any documented cases of people with AIDS being cured? What about Magic Johnson and boxer Tommy Morrison?

[odbo]

Magic Johnson was HIV positive. I don't believe they ever mentioned him having AIDS, which is why he's still alive and doing commercials for check cashing chains and other businesses which further impoverish people in the hood.

The reason millions die in Africa is because of malnutrition. If they wanted to save lives they'd send over some real food instead of sacks of rice, or at least Vitamin C & D instead of vaccines and medication for AIDS.

The easiest way to fool people is to invent something that doesn't exist. Like the science of vaccination, or multiple personality disorder which is really just a person who needs an exorcism. I'm only half kidding, there is a lot of evil out there and it comes in the name of saving people. Believing in AIDS is like believing in the devil. By believing in this external enemy people remove personal responsibility. MILLIONS could of been saved had charities simply tried to improve nutrition of people in Africa. Instead they assumed it was hopeless because of this mythical disease AIDS. It may or may not exist, but it is clear there are huge problems with how it is diagnosed. AIDS was always man-made killer. Did man create a biological weapon or did he just re-brand diseases which were already there and feed poison to people who tested positive for certain genetic markers...



5:20 interview with Magic Johnson in 1992. I recently watched a VHS tape I had used to record some tv in the early 90s and I couldn't believe how many commercials there were for HIV testing. The way they bombarded us with propaganda screams that something is going on.

[Winston]

The Emperors New Virus? - An Analysis of the Evidence for the Existence of HIV (Documentary)

"The Emperor's New Virus?" is a supplementary follow-up to the award winning documentary, House of Numbers. It takes an in-depth look at the scientific evidence surrounding the existence of HIV.

[Winston]

Yeah but odbo, has anyone in the US died of AIDS without taking AZT or even knowing that they were HIV positive?

[Dynamic]

HIV Aids is a terrible disease. There are no chance of getting cure of HIV affected peoples. People can remain safe from HIV by knowing hiv facts. Knowing HIV fact is essential for all.

[NorthAmericanguy]

HIV is real, and according to professor Garth Nicolson who is a world class microbiologist, HIV a slow acting virus that was created to kill off a mass amount of people very slowly without incurring any damage to the surrounding infrastructure.

Essentially what rogue microbiologist have done was figure out ways to weaponize various forms of bacteria such as Mycoplasma, they then would administer the weaponized bacteria to a mass group of people under the guise of vaccinations. Much testing was done first however on American prisoners, American soldiers and elderly people in nursing homes.

HIV, in particular, is being used to kill off Africans and South Americans, Europeans have to worry about lyme disease, fibromyalgia and other chronic illnesses that are all caused by weaponized bacteria that was created in a lab.



Citations:

Project Day Lilly:




Lab 257:

[Winston]

Ok after watching "House of Numbers" again and doing a little research on it, I found out that several of the AIDS denialists in the film who were HIV positive and refused to take AZT, ended up dying from AIDS related symptoms.

So I'm wondering:

1. How do we know they didn't die of a self-fulfilling prophecy, like what might have happened to those who thought they were cursed by voodoo? Or could the Illuminati have killed them for making their AIDS denialism public? Has anyone ever died from AIDS who did NOT KNOW that he/she had it? That's the key question.

2. Why would a virus take 12 years to kill someone?

3. How can HIV be a virus if it can't be seen under a microscope? There's never been an invisible virus before right?

4. The two women in House of Numbers who died, Christine Maggiore and Kim Brannon, were not promiscuous and had monogamous relationships. So how did they get HIV? It was never explained, either in the film or on websites about them. It was also not mentioned if those women's husbands were HIV positive either. How could monogamous people get AIDS, but many promiscuous people don't?

When tennis pro Arthur Ashe got AIDS the media never explained how he got it either. Isn't that strange? Could these people have gotten it from vaccinations, as part of an Illuminati/black op biological weapons program or conspiracy, as some claim?

5. How is it that Magic Johnson is still alive after 12 years? And how come boxer Tommy Morrison's HIV diagnosis was reversed? Did he bribe officials to reverse his diagnosis so that he could live a normal life?

The way I see it, if HIV takes 12 years to kill you, wouldn't it be better if you didn't know about it if you had it? That way, at least you could live a normal happy life before it kills you. Nothing could be worse than living under a death sentence for 12 years, while the government monitors and quarantines you as a threat to society and take away your rights and privileges.

Thus, taking an AIDS test is like playing Russian Roulette. So why would anyone be dumb enough to take it? There's nothing to gain and everything to lose. Even if you had HIV, wouldn't it be better if you didn't know about it so at least you could live a normal happy free life, and not be branded with a death sentence which might result in dying from a self-fulfilling prophecy?

This brings up the key question again: Has anyone ever died from AIDS without ever knowing that they had AIDS? I can't find the answer to this question anywhere. Answering this would shed a lot of light on the issue.

[Winston]

Skip to 30:00 and explain that one to me. Part of the "10 reasons HIV does not cause AIDS"

documentary website: http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com/
other info: http://notaids.com/en/hivfiction

Ok I just watched the documentary above again. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, compelling and easy to understand. Definitely a MUST SEE. It presents 10 scientific arguments against the HIV=AIDS hypothesis, and also explains how the fundamentals of biology and the way viruses work make it impossible for HIV to be the cause of AIDS.

It brought something to light that I didn't realize before. What kind of a virus takes 10-12 years to manifest? All viruses result in symptoms within 1 to 4 weeks. There's no way it would take 10 years to take effect. There's simply no such thing as a "slow virus" as Dr. Peter Duesberg, one of the most renowned biologists in the world, explained. That's way too far fetched and sounds like a scam, in that if you claim that something doesn't start killing you until 10 years after you get it, then anything can happen during those 10 years that can be attributed to AIDS. It gives leeway for them to attribute any illness you get to AIDS, and the number of illnesses connected to AIDS has multiplied over the years, so that anything can be attributed to it. This smells awfully fishy like bad science. How can a virus be connected to every type of illness that happens? It sounds like a way for them to exercise confirmation bias and cherry pick anything they want to support their unproven hypothesis.

If this film is correct, then everyone should be outraged at the scam that's causing thousands of deaths which could be prevented. It's like a holocaust based on a fraud. But too much money is invested and involved for them to change their HIV=AIDS hypothesis now. The HIV/AIDS hypothesis seems to be more about money and politics, rather than objective science. A Harvard Professor in the film summed up the AIDS industry in this one line: "Money is more important than truth." Ain't that the truth!

This film makes a lot of logical points and makes the case for AIDS being a result of recreational drug use, AZT and the psychological voodoo effect of constantly being told by everyone that you're going to die, rather than by a harmless dormant virus like HIV. It also shockingly reveals that Dr. Gallo, the man who declared the HIV/AIDS hypothesis, NEVER submitted his findings for peer review, and thus it was never independently scrutinized or confirmed. Wow. That's huge. It also explains how the HIV/AIDS correlations were cherry picked and discounted all the AIDS patients who did not have HIV or all the HIV infected people who never got AIDS.

I wonder how the AIDS promoters can explain all of that.

Anyhow, everyone should see this film and hear from the other side, so they can make up their own minds, which the mainstream media doesn't allow. It's very compelling, logical, objective and easy to follow. The only downside to it is that it kind of gives gays a bad rap.

Here is the film's description from its website:

http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com/

Contact HIV=AIDS -Fact or Fraud --- The HIV FRAUD EXPOSED One of the most powerful video documentaries of our time boldly reveals the modern medical-industrial complex’s dire descent into utter corruption. HIV/AID$ - A deadly and dangerous DECEPTION!

This feature-length expose explains exactly how the 300-Billion-dollar AID$ fraud began, why HIV can NOT be the cause of AIDS, what the real causes could be, and who manipulates the public’s good intentions while poisoning hundreds of thousands with toxic drugs that cause the very disease they are supposed to prevent.

This is a systematic dissection of the HIV/AID$ machine and how they hijacked a program designed to fight a worldwide plight of human suffering and drove it down the road to hell. Yet this program offers hope, inspired by the courage and articulate arguments of a group of growing voices internationally challenging the HIV=AIDS=DEATH hysteria. A MUST SEE for anyone interested in truly understanding the facts about HIV/AID$.

You will meet a number of highly reputable scientists who all agree that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, including Dr. Peter Duesberg, who was the first scientist to map the genetic structure of retroviruses. He is joined by Dr Charles Thomas, Nobel Prize winner Dr. Kary Mullis along with Dr. David Rasnick, an expert in the field of protease inhibitors.

Is HIV/AIDS the golden idol of junk science? Judge for yourself. Professionally produced, written and researched, acclaimed by physicians, scientists, journalists and humanitarians internationally, this is the video encyclopedia of HIV/AIDS dissident movement! THE defining documentary on the HIV/AIDS fraud. Order it here!