Why Dating Is Ruined In 2022

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Outcast9428 wrote:
November 12th, 2022, 8:50 am
@Yohan
I notice that Japanese incels don't have the hatred and resentment towards women that Western incels do. I think this is because the Japanese incels don't feel that their women hate them the way Western incels do. Japanese incels just seem to be incredibly unmotivated people. I mean, dating in Japan is so easy.
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Not to mention the fact that Japan barely has any feminists. I saw a video of a guy asking girls in Tokyo about feminism and they literally didn’t even know what it was, they thought it was a word for lesbians.

So how the hell is anybody an incel in Japan?
You made some good points,

About feminism, it is true that the general situation in Japan is by far not so hateful as it is in Western countries.

This is a really funny video about it, the replies from women speak for themselves. I don't know who this woman is who made this interview, looks like Western, but speaks fluent Japanese too.



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Is dating so easy in Japan? It depends where you are living - in the large cities it's not so difficult, but if you live in small cities, rural areas, remote located islands the situation to find a nice girl who is interested to be with you is very low, as there are no females available.

I can tell you, if I use my 4WD small car to drive out from the 'small' city of Okayama/Kurashiki where I am living (still 1.2 million citizens living here around me) to any rural area not far away, 15 miles or so, you will see only few people and the large majority of them are 60+ and some young men. Almost no young woman is living there.

I cannot say dating in Japan for young men is so easy, there is a gender imbalance and there are also many young Japanese women who do not want to be in a relationship. Japan, South Korea and Taiwan have always been importers of foreign women for marriage.

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About incels, opinion is divided. If a daughter is still living with her parents (especially if she is the only child with her divorced mother), and never goes out and is not interested in contact with men, nobody talks much about it. But if a young man stays at home doing nothing there is a big talk about it...

Again there is a good video about it, if you did not see it yet, take a look. You will notice again, that all what is related with feminism, MGTOW, incels etc. is not a hateful topic in Japan if you ask women about it.
(the woman you will see with the fair hair is from Finland, but living in Japan)



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Re: Why Dating Is Ruined In 2022

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@Yohan

I don't know why there's a widespread belief that young adults living with their parents makes dating difficult. I had a monumentally more difficult time dating when I was living on my own back in college then I am having living at home with my parents. My ex girlfriend lived at home with her parents. My girlfriend now also lives at home with her parents. Before I graduated college and moved back in with my parents, I had only dated girls for a total of two months out of my life despite wanting a relationship. That includes all of middle school, all of high school, and all of college. In the past two years, however, I have spent almost half of that time in romantic relationships. Most of that I feel is cultural in that the people in my hometown are much more interested in relationships then the people I went to college with.

What you said sounds like it could easily apply to my girlfriend. When I met her, she was extremely shy. I mean I've never met a girl in my life who was so shy. She definitely was inside all the time, and her hobbies are all domestic/introverted, and she had no friends. But my parents and her parents got together and helped set us up. And I learned that she has been extremely lonely for years, desperately wanting a boyfriend so badly that she's been struggling with depression for 5-6 years because of how lonely she was, and what she wants more then anything in the world is just to be loved, to find her soulmate, and be married.

Also, my girlfriend is Asian (I'm sorry I had to mention that because I'm very happy about it lol).

I mean, to me, the kind of girl who is inside all day and never goes out. That's the perfect girl to go for. Those are the girls who have barely any experience with relationships because they don't know how to find a guy and really really want one.

I noticed in the video you showed me that the only girls who were feminists were the ones who went to university. The other girls literally said they think being a woman is better in Japan because they are looking at the situation with their common sense and realizing that being housewives is a really good deal for them rather then ideological indoctrination which tells them they need to view work as the best thing a woman can do. I am truly convinced that the Western university is utterly evil and needs radical change. It needs to either be completely overhauled, or it needs to be destroyed entirely. But the university system cannot continue the way it currently operates.

I will never, ever, send my future daughters to university. I hesitate to even send my sons.

As far as the MGTOW video goes... I'm glad to see so many of the girls saying that the idea makes them feel sad. I feel like that's how people's response should be to people from the opposite sex saying "f**k all of you, I want nothing to do with you romantically. All I care about is my precious moneys!" I absolutely do consider MGTOW to be the male version of feminism and I think both are equally toxic. But feminism is a much much larger threat and deserves more focus and energy on defeating.
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Outcast9428 wrote:
November 12th, 2022, 8:55 pm
@Yohan

I don't know why there's a widespread belief that young adults living with their parents makes dating difficult. I had a monumentally more difficult time dating when I was living on my own back in college then I am having living at home with my parents. My ex girlfriend lived at home with her parents. My girlfriend now also lives at home with her parents. Before I graduated college and moved back in with my parents, I had only dated girls for a total of two months out of my life despite wanting a relationship. That includes all of middle school, all of high school, and all of college. In the past two years, however, I have spent almost half of that time in romantic relationships. Most of that I feel is cultural in that the people in my hometown are much more interested in relationships then the people I went to college with.

What you said sounds like it could easily apply to my girlfriend. When I met her, she was extremely shy. I mean I've never met a girl in my life who was so shy. She definitely was inside all the time, and her hobbies are all domestic/introverted, and she had no friends. But my parents and her parents got together and helped set us up. And I learned that she has been extremely lonely for years, desperately wanting a boyfriend so badly that she's been struggling with depression for 5-6 years because of how lonely she was, and what she wants more then anything in the world is just to be loved, to find her soulmate, and be married.

Also, my girlfriend is Asian (I'm sorry I had to mention that because I'm very happy about it lol).

I mean, to me, the kind of girl who is inside all day and never goes out. That's the perfect girl to go for. Those are the girls who have barely any experience with relationships because they don't know how to find a guy and really really want one.

I noticed in the video you showed me that the only girls who were feminists were the ones who went to university. The other girls literally said they think being a woman is better in Japan because they are looking at the situation with their common sense and realizing that being housewives is a really good deal for them rather then ideological indoctrination which tells them they need to view work as the best thing a woman can do. I am truly convinced that the Western university is utterly evil and needs radical change. It needs to either be completely overhauled, or it needs to be destroyed entirely. But the university system cannot continue the way it currently operates.

I will never, ever, send my future daughters to university. I hesitate to even send my sons.

As far as the MGTOW video goes... I'm glad to see so many of the girls saying that the idea makes them feel sad. I feel like that's how people's response should be to people from the opposite sex saying "f**k all of you, I want nothing to do with you romantically. All I care about is my precious moneys!" I absolutely do consider MGTOW to be the male version of feminism and I think both are equally toxic. But feminism is a much much larger threat and deserves more focus and energy on defeating.
That's only because if you live at home with your parents, chances are you're going to get shammed and judged hard for that, especially in America. Maybe not if you are in your late teens but anyone over 20 and 30 up will definitely get discriminated against for this. That;s why that "Living in your moms basement" is so overused. People say that to try to make people feel like losers if they still stay at home with their parents and haven't left. It's one of the oldest insults too. If your gf still lives at home, consider yourself fortunate because she's less likely to judge you if you still live with yours.
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November 12th, 2022, 8:55 pm
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I don't know why there's a widespread belief that young adults living with their parents makes dating difficult. I had a monumentally more difficult time dating when I was living on my own back in college then I am having living at home with my parents.
I can only comment about the situation in Japan. You have to see the Japanese dating situation within the whole country, and not only the life-style in the large cities.

It's about MALE young adults in most cases and in many cases about the eldest son I would say. Especially if living with their parents in small cities and rural areas, working somewhere in a factory with almost only male workers around him, or living in a place, where parents own their business like as farmer or on islands with little population where the only work is the fishing industry.

FEMALE young adults do not face this lonely situation in rural Japan in general, they just move away to the large cities, where life is much more convenient for them.

Japan has wide areas with little population where any form of city life does not exist, it is totally dark in evening.

One time I was driving just for sightseeing in Yamaguchi-ken, to cities facing the Japanese sea (Nagato, Hagi) and another city which is away from the sea (place called MINE) - even the 'cities' have hardly more than 20.000 to 40.000 people, and it was so dark around 07:00 PM, that I was using the high-beam lights while driving through with my car.

There was a television broadcasting a while ago about a village in the forests of Nagano-ken, the number #1 of gender imbalance in Japan - less than 1000 people living there. There were 135 young foreign females, but their husbands were all Japanese young men. - Only 5 married young women were Japanese. All the others were either couples older than 60+, or young men still single...
I noticed in the video you showed me that the only girls who were feminists were the ones who went to university. The other girls literally said they think being a woman is better in Japan because they are looking at the situation with their common sense and realizing that being housewives is a really good deal for them rather then ideological indoctrination which tells them they need to view work as the best thing a woman can do.
This is true, many Japanese women do not have any real idea about what feminism even means. There are some nice videos about that on Youtube, there are often of good quality with English translation. Some Japanese for example Nobita (a Japanese English teacher) made plenty of such interviews.


I am truly convinced that the Western university is utterly evil and needs radical change. It needs to either be completely overhauled, or it needs to be destroyed entirely. But the university system cannot continue the way it currently operates.
I will never, ever, send my future daughters to university. I hesitate to even send my sons.
My 2 daughters tried it out - university/college for a few years, moved to France and USA/Canada. Both came back to Japan.
As far as the MGTOW video goes... I'm glad to see so many of the girls saying that the idea makes them feel sad. I feel like that's how people's response should be to people from the opposite sex saying "f**k all of you, I want nothing to do with you romantically. All I care about is my precious moneys!" I absolutely do consider MGTOW to be the male version of feminism and I think both are equally toxic. But feminism is a much much larger threat and deserves more focus and energy on defeating.
Luckily I moved over to Japan, but in Europe, I would still be what is now called MGTOW or even an incel. I was quite active in a MGTOW Forum until it was closing down.

MGTOW is not the male version of feminism, it is merely the result to hateful feminism and is especially worried about the legal situation in Western countries which belittles men and boys, treating them as 2nd class citizens. MGTOW is about being rejected by females or paying a high price for being divorced etc. to make men mistrusting to try it again. It is not about rejecting all females.

Feminism is different in its ideology - it is about demanding advantages and privileges - it is about to extort money from men, from companies and from the state solely justified because being a female. It's about equality, but only if it fits the female agenda, otherwise not.
Feminism is sponsored financially by multiple sources, which is not the case with MGTOW.
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