Don Hertzfeldt animated shorts on dating in America

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » January 29th, 2012, 12:18 am

Like Winston, Don Hertzfeldt grew up in Fremont, California. He majored in film at UC Santa Barbara and went on to become a famous producer of animated shorts.

Don produced both of the two films below while he was still a college student at UCSB.

"Lily and Jim" is about an awkward blind date.

"Ah, L'Amour" is about being cruelly rejected by many women for simply asking them out. In the end, money wins.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » January 29th, 2012, 12:39 am

http://www.bitterfilms.com/lamour.html

The movie initially saw limited action at film festivals because Don was embarassed by it. He was also afraid of being pelted with rocks by angry women, until screenings revealed that women usually cheered very loudly for the cartoon girls, and always applauded much louder than the men.

A few of the "evil women" in the film are crude caricatures of some of Don's ex-girlfriends - drawn not so much out of bitterness but from running out of different hair styles to think up. No one could tell that Don drew caricatures because you can barely tell that Don drew people.

http://www.bitterfilms.com/lilyjim.html

"But there's one real star here: 23-year-old Don Hertzfeldt, who says more about the trials of modern romance with a few minutes of his maladjusted stick figures in Lily and Jim and the gruesome, gleefully puerile Ah L'Amour than, say, Kevin Smith did in all of Chasing Amy... lo-fi, distinctly American aesthetic..."

walrusface · Post by **walrusface** » February 24th, 2012, 11:16 am

I've seen those two films before and can remember relating to them. I do some animation as well, I've recently done one which is to a comedy song which is in a similar kind of Hertzfeldt style. Here it is:

addis · Post by **addis** » April 3rd, 2012, 7:47 am

These videos are funny and whoever had dating problems before will find these even funnier. I had a tough time with girls in my teen years, every date used to end catastrophically, I am glad those days are over. Now things are changed, and I admit that I got some escorts London support to get some sense of confidence in my skills.

zboy1 · Post by **zboy1** » April 3rd, 2012, 12:38 pm

addis wrote:These videos are funny and whoever had dating problems before will find these even funnier. I had a tough time with girls in my teen years, every date used to end catastrophically, I am glad those days are over. Now things are changed, and I admit that I got some escorts London support to get some sense of confidence in my skills.

Holy cow, the chicks on that London escort site are hot as f**k! Would you recommend them to the males on this site? I wish the U.S. wasn't as puritanical and paranoid about prostitution and sex as they are in Europe and other parts of the world. I know when I was stationed in the U.K. and got to travel all over Europe, the red-light districts and escort services was a real relief for a guy like me to experience women for someone as inexperienced as I was when I was younger.

I wish the USA would allow prostitution to be legal in the country; I don't know why prostitution is not legal in supposedly the "freest country in the world, aka the USA!" Being overseas was a real eye opener for me to dispel the myths of the USA being the "greatest country in the world." In America, you can't smoke weed without a fascist cop stomping on your head, gay marriage is not legal, nude beaches are barred, and people are too afraid to protest their government unlike in many European countries. Freedom is only an illusion in the U.S. these days...

ExpeditionSailor · Post by **ExpeditionSailor** » May 10th, 2012, 2:49 pm

zboy1 wrote:
addis wrote:These videos are funny and whoever had dating problems before will find these even funnier. I had a tough time with girls in my teen years, every date used to end catastrophically, I am glad those days are over. Now things are changed, and I admit that I got some escorts London support to get some sense of confidence in my skills.
Holy cow, the chicks on that London escort site are hot as f**k! Would you recommend them to the males on this site? I wish the U.S. wasn't as puritanical and paranoid about prostitution and sex as they are in Europe and other parts of the world. I know when I was stationed in the U.K. and got to travel all over Europe, the red-light districts and escort services was a real relief for a guy like me to experience women for someone as inexperienced as I was when I was younger.

I wish the USA would allow prostitution to be legal in the country; I don't know why prostitution is not legal in supposedly the "freest country in the world, aka the USA!" Being overseas was a real eye opener for me to dispel the myths of the USA being the "greatest country in the world." In America, you can't smoke weed without a fascist cop stomping on your head, gay marriage is not legal, nude beaches are barred, and people are too afraid to protest their government unlike in many European countries. Freedom is only an illusion in the U.S. these days...

This might sound a little weird, but here goes anyway. I think prostitution is illegal in the US because porn is a big business, and the people in it would rather you pay to watch people having sex than actually having it. So, the pornographers probably vigourously lobby lawmakers to proscribe prostitution. Plus, there's not enough busy work for cops to do with the war on drugs, and the war on terrorism, so going after people who engage in consensual acts and victimless 'crimes' fills the void. Prostitution stings and sweeps are big money makers for lawyers, too.

I live in Canada, and I've always found that the strong puritanical streak that runs throughout the US seems to run counter to its reputation as a technologically advanced, progressive country. Here in Canada prostitution is technically illegal, but the laws are rarely enforced unless you're causing a nuisance, or likely to be a nuisance with your behaviour. That is, go trolling on the street for a hooker, you'll get busted. Check out the classified ads and call one up, and you're OK.

lavezzi · Post by **lavezzi** » May 10th, 2012, 2:59 pm

The laws in Canada are the same as in Ireland; buying and selling sex is legal, but brothels and soliciting sex in public (including in local magazines or newspapers) are not. Most of the time the escort websites are run in different countries to get around these laws.

Escorting is great the first few times you do it, but it gets old very fast. It's surely better than worshipping some Anglo-whores fat rolls just to get her to lay on her back like a lump while you pump away at her though.