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The Myth of the "Good Girl"

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The Myth of the "Good Girl"

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Interesting video explaining the myth of the "good girl."

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieAnQxkl4xk[/youtube]
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Re: The Myth of the "Good Girl"

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Great video. Every man thinks he has the unicorn, good girl till the levers of power are handed over to her! :lol:

Every single divorced man thought this.

Every married man now married in misery thought this too.

This is a lesson few can comprehend until it is too late though!
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Re: The Myth of the "Good Girl"

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There are a lot of risks we can take in life. There are financial risks. Successful entrepreneurs usually have taken risks.
But there may be more unsuccessful attempted entrepreneurs than successful ones. Having a relationship is a risk. Getting married is a risk.

I saw a YouTube video from a MGTOW who said he really wanted to get married and have a family, but he wouldn't because of the risks. That seems a bit cowardly to me. If you don't want to get married, that's what you want. But to want to, and to be afraid of risks, that doesn't seem like a good way to live ones life.

Women can surprise you. People can surprise you. Suppose you go MGTOW and live with roommates. One of your roommates could break through your security, bomb your safe, steal your identity, raid your bank account, etc. You trust the cashier at the fast food restaurant. If she wanted, she could slip some poison in your meal. You trust people to stay stopped at redlights, or just sort of assume it without thinking about it. It may not happen that way. Relationship risks may be higher, but there are ways you can lower your risk.

If you date some girl with a great upbringing from a farm town, and she's living with you and sleeping with you outside of marriage, how is that low risk for her not running off when you have an argument and sleeping with another guy. If she's sleeping with you outside of marriage, and keeping her virginity wasn't important to her, how is she a 'unicorn'? DId she sleep with other guys before you? Maybe the girl mentioned in the video was a virgin who ran off and slept with some other dude to lose her virginity, but that seems unlikely. If you want to find a 'unicorn' you have to have 'unicorn' standards.

Realistically, even decent, wife-material women have weaknesses and flaws, and a man needs to provide a little direction for a woman's thinking at times to help keep her in line. He needs to point out if she's being unreasonable. Even some of the best girls have times where they can think about things the wrong way, get moody or emotional. They can get PMS, periods, and post-partum depression.

The divorce laws are stacked against men in the west. That isn't the case all over the world. It is not where I live. But even if you live in the US, you can still pick a lower risk girl for divorce. If you want to experience having a family, don't let fear paralize you.

The man in the video is not against relationships. He's just saying be wise to the risks.
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MrMan wrote:There are a lot of risks we can take in life. There are financial risks. Successful entrepreneurs usually have taken risks.
But there may be more unsuccessful attempted entrepreneurs than successful ones. Having a relationship is a risk. Getting married is a risk.

I saw a YouTube video from a MGTOW who said he really wanted to get married and have a family, but he wouldn't because of the risks. That seems a bit cowardly to me. If you don't want to get married, that's what you want. But to want to, and to be afraid of risks, that doesn't seem like a good way to live ones life.

Women can surprise you. People can surprise you. Suppose you go MGTOW and live with roommates. One of your roommates could break through your security, bomb your safe, steal your identity, raid your bank account, etc. You trust the cashier at the fast food restaurant. If she wanted, she could slip some poison in your meal. You trust people to stay stopped at redlights, or just sort of assume it without thinking about it. It may not happen that way. Relationship risks may be higher, but there are ways you can lower your risk.

If you date some girl with a great upbringing from a farm town, and she's living with you and sleeping with you outside of marriage, how is that low risk for her not running off when you have an argument and sleeping with another guy. If she's sleeping with you outside of marriage, and keeping her virginity wasn't important to her, how is she a 'unicorn'? DId she sleep with other guys before you? Maybe the girl mentioned in the video was a virgin who ran off and slept with some other dude to lose her virginity, but that seems unlikely. If you want to find a 'unicorn' you have to have 'unicorn' standards.

Realistically, even decent, wife-material women have weaknesses and flaws, and a man needs to provide a little direction for a woman's thinking at times to help keep her in line. He needs to point out if she's being unreasonable. Even some of the best girls have times where they can think about things the wrong way, get moody or emotional. They can get PMS, periods, and post-partum depression.

The divorce laws are stacked against men in the west. That isn't the case all over the world. It is not where I live. But even if you live in the US, you can still pick a lower risk girl for divorce. If you want to experience having a family, don't let fear paralize you.

The man in the video is not against relationships. He's just saying be wise to the risks.
Risk is not risk is not risk.

There is smart risk and there is foolish risk.

Any businessman who thinks 50/50 risk is smart risk is a fool. The odds of marriage failure are 50/50 conservatively speaking, so that is not a good risk to undertake. Further, the risk of financial ruin is 99% if the marriage breaks up in the West.

No man should be willing to play those losing odds.

If your risk is somewhat attenuated overseas, good for you.

Marriage still is not worth it and in my view because it is undue control and restraint of a man. I would never advise a man to live under such conditions. If a man wants to live with a woman or have a child with her, fine. But marriage is a no go zone in any country for the freedom loving man.
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Re: The Myth of the "Good Girl"

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Contrarian Expatriate wrote: There is smart risk and there is foolish risk.

Any businessman who thinks 50/50 risk is smart risk is a fool. The odds of marriage failure are 50/50 conservatively speaking, so that is not a good risk to undertake. Further, the risk of financial ruin is 99% if the marriage breaks up in the West.
50% is a myth in the US. It's a bit lower than that. But where I am, the last I read, it was about 10%.

Your analogy isn't really complete. If 50% of a certain type of investment went under, but you can make 10x on your money in 5 years, it could very well make sense to invest in that type of investment. If 50% of new restaurants fail in 5 years, but 90% of new chicken and burger restaurants fail, and 90% of vegetarian restaurants earn high returns, it may make sense to invest in a vegetarian restaurant. Women are not all cookie-cutter images of each other. And as far as divorce statistics are concerned, there are women who are much lower risk than others.

And not all of us are in the west.
If a man wants to live with a woman or have a child with her, fine. But marriage is a no go zone in any country for the freedom loving man.
How are the risks that much different in the US. If you get a live-in girlfriend and you are in a common law state, then divorce law can apply to you. If not, and you end up breaking up and she gets the kids, you can still end up paying child support. That is the big financial issue for a lot of divorced men, having to pay to support the children in the wake of the economic destruction created by the divorce where the cost of housing (two residences) has doubled.
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