Nazi Economic Miracle

[Jester]

German economic accompishments after 16:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vfdZtpx ... hsgbxg6lIQ
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Why don't non-racist folks study Nazi economic achievements?

[OutWest]

All that money! Too bad he wasted so much of it invading places like Russia...and various other places...

[fschmidt]

Why don't non-racist folks study Nazi economic achievements?

The video is too long for me, but yes I (a non-racist) am familiar with Nazi economic achievements. It's really quite simple. International bankers (regardless of race) are economic parasites and any economy that gets rid of them will benefit enormously.

[Winston]

All that money! Too bad he wasted so much of it invading places like Russia...and various other places...

Yeah, that invasion of Russia, called Operation Barbarossa, involved 3 or 4 million Nazi troops. It was the largest invasion force in the history of the world. I wonder what would have happened if Hitler had instead used that huge army to secure his conquests in Europe. If he had used all those men to protect his European territories from US or British invasion forces, then he might have had more time to be the first to develop the atomic bomb. If that happened, maybe he would have won WWII or at least extend it longer.

I don't get why he squandered all those precious forces, after working hard to build them up, in Russia. I guess he needed the oil in the Caucus mountains to run the Nazi empire.

On another topic:

Some conspiracy people are now saying that Hitler brought Germany to prosperity again by not borrowing from the central bankers at interest, and having the German bank issue its own currency. They claim that WWII was started by the bankers because they could not tolerate Hitler's dissent.

If that's true though, then why does Hitler not mention that in any of his speeches, which are recorded and transcribed? Does he ever mention that in his speeches? That the war was started by the bankers who were mad that he didn't borrow money from them at interest? If that was the real reason, he would have known and said something about it. Even conspiracy views have plotholes in them.

[fschmidt]

On another topic:

Some conspiracy people are now saying that Hitler brought Germany to prosperity again by not borrowing from the central bankers at interest, and having the German bank issue its own currency. They claim that WWII was started by the bankers because they could not tolerate Hitler's dissent.

If that's true though, then why does Hitler not mention that in any of his speeches, which are recorded and transcribed? Does he ever mention that in his speeches? That the war was started by the bankers who were mad that he didn't borrow money from them at interest? If that was the real reason, he would have known and said something about it. Even conspiracy views have plotholes in them.

Please stop using secondary sources and start using primary sources starting with Mein Kampf. Then you will see that Hitler started WW2 and that Hitler did understand the problem of international bankers. Hitler's hatred of Jews was based on something else which I don't bother discussing until you have finished Mein Kampf.

[momopi]

Why don't non-racist folks study Nazi economic achievements?

It's dressed up in a politically correct fashion. i.e. study in the construction of the Autobahn, the Volkswagen ("people's car"), the reversal of German immigration trends during Nazi Germany rule, etc.

Dig a little deeper and you'll find the Nationalist-Socialist origins of these projects. Even in Taiwan we had the "The Major Construction Projects" (十大建設) under Chiang Ching-kuo, who was Soviet trained.

[MrPeabody]

It's economics which actually distinguishes fascism from the other systems and makes it interesting. Fascism was meant as an alternative to the other two systems. Hitler hated both Capitalism and Communism. Fascism involved cooperation between government, private industry, and the workers under a national context - hence, National Socialism. They differed from communists in that fascists still believed in private property.

The architect of Hitler's progressive economics was the economist Hjalmar Schacht. When Germany decided to rebuild the military Schacht protested and was kicked out of the government and eventually ended up in a concentration camp. Thus it is incorrect to say the military build up is the cause of their economic success. The economy was successful before the military expansion.

When Hitler took over Germany, the country was in depression and they had lost all their gold. The genius of Hitler was the he realized a key insight - gold doesn't matter to an economy, value comes from the workers. In contrast, the United States took gold seriously and the Federal Reserve increased the interest rates to defend the gold standard and as a result brought on the great depression. This is not my version of history but what was claimed by Robert Mundell, an economist and Nobel Prize winner. The Nazis build a successful economy by ignoring gold. The US destroyed it's economy defending gold.

The Nazis also started massive public works projects like the Autobahn, and they did this years before the United States discovered John Maynard Keynes. Hitler was a Keynsian before Keynes. It took the US 30 years later to build the Federal Highway System which was modeled after the Autobahn and the largest public works project in US History.

The world has a lot to learn from Hjalmar Schact and his economics.

Here is his biography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht

[Luc Furr]

There was no miracle and you all know it.

[Winston]

Here is an article that explains in detail Hitler's reasons and strategies for invading Russia, and what his mistakes were. It's very interesting.

http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/ww ... ussia.aspx

I wonder what would have happened if he had captured Moscow. Would he have captured Stalin too? Or would Stalin have escaped? In chess, you go for the king to end the game, so why didn't Hitler think that way?

[Cornfed]

I wonder what would have happened if he had captured Moscow. Would he have captured Stalin too? Or would Stalin have escaped?

Stalin and the senior leadership evacuated Moscow, so presumably he would have escaped.

In chess, you go for the king to end the game, so why didn't Hitler think that way?

He focused on the economic aspects of war, such as getting grain from the Ukraine and mineral resources from southern Russia. I don't know whether he was right or wrong.

[momopi]

Here is an article that explains in detail Hitler's reasons and strategies for invading Russia, and what his mistakes were. It's very interesting.
http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/ww ... ussia.aspx
I wonder what would have happened if he had captured Moscow. Would he have captured Stalin too? Or would Stalin have escaped? In chess, you go for the king to end the game, so why didn't Hitler think that way?

This has already been discussed previously.

[pandabear]

Please stop using secondary sources and start using primary sources starting with Mein Kampf. Then you will see that Hitler started WW2 and that Hitler did understand the problem of international bankers. Hitler's hatred of Jews was based on something else which I don't bother discussing until you have finished Mein Kampf.

That's an extremely LONG book. And, you wouldn't want to bring it to read while you were waiting--with the other parents--for your daughter to finish her ballet lesson. Is there a condensed version? And, was his problem penis envy? Something like that usually is.