Pixel--Dude wrote: ↑August 21st, 2022, 5:52 am
MrMan wrote: ↑August 19th, 2022, 3:20 pm
The meaning of Lingam and Yoni as you have read it is symbolic of the masculine and feminine energies they represent. And again, these are not in any way related to the concept of gender or a person's soul. As I stated above: a straight, biological man, can have high levels of Yoni energy which makes him act affeminate but at the same time it doesn't mess with his sense of identity or his sexuality! The two things are completely different and are being conflated either deliberately to erroneously connect the recent globo homo agenda or unintentionally misinterpreted.
From my perspective who sees this Hindu gender stuff as a bunch of (likely) demonic (literally), dangerous, and disgusting bunk, I disagree. The Hindu perspective that leaks into western culture through New Age, academia, and people in California studying Hinduism, certainly sets the stage, philosophically, for transsexualism.
And some of the 'bad Jews' who are promoting this stuff do so because they have been influenced by bad philosophies like Hinduism, Hindu-influenced New Age or a kind of secular Hedonism, and various other bad worldviews and philosophies.
Hinduism also has a god for men who want to have their junk cut off so they can be recognized by a community considered to be a 'third gender'. These guys get their junk cut off, then dress up like women, acting all effeminate. The difference between that and full trans gender operation people is they now have technology to allow the man's junk to be changed to _look like_ women's junk and even participate in bizarre homosexual sex acts that replicate intercourse with a woman.
I am pretty sure this sickening junk I've heard from the '80's about 'getting in touch with your feminine side' is Hindu-influenced also.
As far as connecting the dots a bit tighter, if you want, I will see if I could contact Vishal and ask if he can do that. I think I am on a forum with him still. I had one interaction with him before that I recall.
I'll give you an example of what I mean. I work with a guy called Martin. He is a straight guy with a girlfriend. When I first trained him on the job I thought he was gay because he is really effeminate and acts really feminine. He isn't gay, neither is he confused about his gender, neither is he repressing his "true" self. He is already his true self. A straight, biological male and a male soul who just so happens to have higher levels of Yoni energy which makes him more sensitive and feminine than most other men who have higher levels of Lingam energy and lower levels of Yoni energy.
The first part I follow, then the Hindu explanation junk. One can use that explanation for a trans man made to look like a female. The man feels like he is a woman trapped in man's body. One could say he had a bunch of yoni energy, and not much lingam energy. It isn't a large leap from there to say they have this operation and some hormones to make him express the yoni energy physically.
After all, Hinduism has hijras. It is intertwined with Hinduism, too. They have a goddess they worship that is involved in their initiation ceremony. Hinduism has already had its version of 'trans' from way back before these sick operations were developed.
I worked with a guy when I lived overseas. He sounded a little gay when he first went to work there. He had a girlfriend back in the US, and didn't seem gay from the stuff he said, except using a bit of gay slang and that slightly effeminate manner of speaking. After a few weeks of working there, the slight whiney gay speech patterns he'd been expressing went away. From his stories, he'd been working retail with some gay dudes. He'd picked up some of their mannerisms. No Hindu explanation needed.
That's two examples of straight people who have high energies of either Lingam or Yoni which is contrary to their biological sex or the gender of their soul, which I already explained I believe is fixed. Male souls always incarnate as males. Female souls incarnate as females.
The trans philosophy fits well with Hinduism. Hinduism has this male and female energy inside the opposite gender. It just takes a little tweak to turn into this trans mess we have. It is probably from the Hindu energy.
From my perspective as a Christian, where God made male and female and is disgusted by men dressing as women and women dressing as men, you can see how the Hindu philosophy seems gross, warped, and potentially partly behind this trans junk.
Also, in Hindu mythology, male and male gods can have children together and female with female, so it definitely offers a lot of fuel for the LGBT ideologies.
As for myself, to answer your question, I think I have a high level of Lingam energy as I act masculine. But I do have some Yoni energy as well. Hopefully these images will give you a clearer impression of what I mean by the concept of Lingam and Yoni.
So you think you have a little womb/vagina/vulva energy in you? Okay. I don't believe in that stuff. But if that is how you think of yourself, that's your opinion.
The fact that you have found evidence of transexuals in Hinduism only means it existed back then and was tolerated. It doesn't mean that Hinduism is advocating this behaviour. Only that it is tolerated. Just because some modern "thinkers" like John Money want to conflate this duality of masculine and feminine energies with sex and gender does not mean that this is derived from Hinduism. If anything it has been subverted and made as something perverse by pedophiles and nutcases who want to sexualise kids and make a profit from their ill-informed transition to the opposite sex. That is immoral and it is wrong!
Without the weird Hindu philosophy, there may have been nothing to build the trans philosophy on.
Most denominations of Hinduism do not seek converts or to push their ideological beliefs onto others as Christianity does. Also, 95% of Hindus live in India, not the west. Gay marriage was legalised in the west before it was legal in India, which is/was a predominantly homophobic country. With these facts in mind, how can you further justify your position?
Sexualizing kids? How old are temple prostitutes in India when they are recruited? Don't they recruit devadasi when they are little girls?
Immoral pedophiles and western libertines have drawn from immoral Hindu philosophy and added to it. But their ideology isn't compatible with Christianity or Judaism. The Jews that support this stuff draw from other ideologies.
I'm not saying Talmudic Judaism is pristine or not without some fatal flaws. But it isn't as bizarre as his Hindu stuff. One thing a Jew can do to be a really bad Jew is to practice Hinduism.
I've said before that I personally do not care if people want to be gay or transexual. What people do in the privacy of their own homes is none of my business. What pisses me off is the indoctrination in schools and how kids, who haven't even fully developed a sense of personal identity yet are having these concepts of gender pronouns and homosexuality forced upon them with teachers talking about bullshit such as mentioned in the article in this thread. "Heterosexuality is Oppression" how f***ing ridiculous is it to teach that sentiment to kids?!
I agree it's outlandish, but when practicing the perversion at home faced a real potential prison sentence, we didn't hear this garbage at home either. I don't know if the SCOTUS will overturn past decisions, and allow these old laws to be enforced, but if they did, that might help us a little. The danger is evil-minded Congress people and state legislators trying to legislate immorality.
Kids being sexualised because of idiots like Sigmund Freud who talked about repressed sexual urges of children, and Alfred Kinsey who talked about rape and incest being healthy for kids with his research into how long it takes children to orgasm, is part of the problem today!
Yes, they contributed some negative ideas. Freud focused way too much on sexual repression. Kinsey's research methodology was bad, but the stuff he researched in the books indicate some very evil stuff was going on with the children. Back then, social science research hadn't shown just how damaging child molestation was, so evil sexual libertines were pushing the idea that sex with kids was okay. There seems to have been some push-back against this, but somehow Kinsey didn't come out looking like a villain in the public eye or when he is taught about in psychology. Maybe something like a BLM cancel culture, Juneteenth style initiative should be launched against some of these perverts
Combined with the perverted bullshit pushed by John Money who tried to encourage some parents to bring their boy up as a girl because the boy lost his penis in an accident. Its because of him that the concept of gender was turned into some fluid and meaningless concept and this is being pushed in schools today. Funnily enough Money was another pedophile who forced the twins to simulate sexual acts on each other whilst he examined their genitals.
Yes, but Hindu thought is a backdrop behind some of this thinking. The trans philosophy fits with the idea of men having feminine energy. There becomes a justification for 'he's a man trapped in a woman's body' type thinking. For me, I hear that, and I think something is wrong with your mind (soul, spirit, and or thinking) that needs to be fixed, not your body.
In the cases of both Kinsey and Money we see the abuse of children being ignored because it was in the name of science! These are the guys who have given rise to all this nonsense, not Hinduism. You are making an erroneous connection in order to push the blame onto Hinduism and further assert the moral superiority of Christianity.
I don't know that John Money had any kind of Hindu influence. The idea of masculine and feminine sides or energies in western thought, academia, even psychology is probably due to Hindu influence, and this provides an alternative perspective which supports pro-trans-surgery type thinking. It's not the only influence, and one of them.
To conclude, the saying "getting in touch with your feminine side" is not suggesting you put on a floral patterned dress and a pair of tights and start prancing about in front of the mirror. It means, from my perspective at least, developing traits that are influenced by Yoni energy such as intuition and a nurturing nature etc.
But that's what Hijra do, after having their junk cut off (e.g., but tying a string around it until it dies then cutting it off, or whatever other method), then they have a Hindu ceremony, and get accepted as a Hijra. These are low tech trans people, and this is intertwined with Hinduism.