Is Derek Chauvin innocent?

[NPCslammer]

lol Total Ownage
That's why I said in my last post I made commenting on what you said regarding the evidence. I wonder what's going to happen now. How many people are aware of this? And all the money his family got what happens with that? Seems like they gave them a lot of money for his death. Plus Chav's girlfriend or wife ended up leaving him because of what happened, I wonder if she knows the true story now. A lot of people made loads of money off his death.

The average dumbass such as Yick probably saw a 30 second clip on the BBC or CNN, watched a CNN panel full of libtards scream raaycism, police bootality, blm etc… and made up his mind. Funny though how leftists, when it’s something about the white supremacist boogeyman they’re always screaming about, will actually do diligent research and dig up someone saying the N word 20 years ago in one of their texts or something and scream bloody murder. In a case like this, the BS narrative is good enough for the average dumbass sheep. Just like Ahmaud Arbery case. They said he he was a good boy and was just “jogging.”

Derek Dude was convicted for his precise actions:

Conviction(s)

2 counts of deprivation of rights under color of law

The deprivation of rights under color of law is a federal criminal offense which occurs when any person, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person on any U.S. territory or possession to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States

1 count of unintentional second-degree murder

Unintentional second-degree murder is defined as a murder in which the prosecution is not required to prove intent, but only that the defendant committed a felony causing another person's death.

1 count of third-degree murder

Third-degree murder in Minnesota is defined as when a perpetrator engages in an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, or engaging in a drug deal resulting in someone's death.

1 count of second-degree manslaughter

Manslaughter is a crime in the United States. Definitions can vary among jurisdictions, but manslaughter is invariably the act of causing the death of another person in a manner less culpable than murder. Three types of unlawful killings constitute manslaughter. First, there is voluntary manslaughter which is an intentional homicide committed in "sudden heat of passion" as the result of adequate provocation. Second, there is the form of involuntary manslaughter which is an unintentional homicide that was committed in a criminally negligent manner.

2 counts of tax evasion

How is this even a topic? In his career, Chauvin had 18 complaints against him on official record and was involved in three police shootings, one of which was fatal. He received two letters of reprimand for misconduct.

On May 24, 2008, Chauvin was responding to a domestic violence call about 21-year-old man Ira Latrell Toles by the mother of his baby. He broke down the bathroom door and nearly killed unarmed Toles by beating him with his pistol and then shooting him twice at close range after he allegedly reached for an officer's gun.

On September 4, 2017, Chauvin was among officers responding to a complaint by the mother of two young children. Videos from the scene were said to show Chauvin hitting a 14-year-old black boy in the head with a flashlight so hard he required stitches, then holding him down with his knee for nearly 17 minutes, ignoring the boy's complaints that he could not breathe. Trying to avoid prejudice in the Floyd trial, the judge prohibited the prosecutors from raising the matter.

In late 2021, Chauvin admitted guilt to federal charges of infringing upon Floyd's civil rights through the utilization of excessive force and disregarding Floyd's critical medical needs. Generally, the individual in question is a contemptible person and has received a just outcome.

You're literally retarded, dude, seriously.



If I were to approach you and place a 200 lb dumbbell on your neck (considering that most physically fit individuals can exert a force greater than their own body weight), it is certain that you would experience significant difficulty breathing. Given my weight of over 220 lbs, which consists primarily of muscle, it is highly probable that you would not survive beyond 5 minutes in my presence. But you're so retarded that you claim you can't be held accountable for other people's bodily functions. This website appears to consist of individuals that possess a notably low level of intelligence.

Spamming Chauvin’s charges again and again just makes you look like a moron. Nobody’s disagreeing that those are the charges. The disagreement is that those charges are justified. You are clearly incredibly illiterate moron. If you want to go by the verdict. Then you must admit that Kyle Rittenhouse is innocent. You must also admit that your fellow blacks who sometimes are falsely charged with crimes must have been 100% still be guilty according to the court’s verdict at the time. Sadly, this is all too complicated for your literal pea brain to understand.

Also, prove that Chauvin using maximum force or Floyd’s neck. You can’t. From the unedited video feed it looks like Chauvin is barely even putting pressure on your boy Floyd. It looks like the knee is there just to keep him from trying to move around and nothing more. Those cops were incredibly patient with Floyd. Floyd was whining like a baby in police car and trying to slide out like a child. You clearly don’t know shit, but it’s obvious why you think what you do, dindu.

Lol, you are so stupid. The purpose of sharing his charges and their definitions is to ascertain the accuracy of these charges, regardless of whether they are correct or not, you imbecile. What is the connection between Kyle Rittenhouse and the charges against Chauvin? Chauvin subjected an individual to torment for a duration of 10 minutes.

There is no requirement for me to demonstrate that Chauvin was employing the utmost level of force. It is essentially a fundamental concept in physics. By simply sitting or standing, you apply a downward force equal to your weight. Therefore, if you weigh 120 pounds, you can accurately state that you are exerting a force of 120 pounds. When wearing high-heeled shoes with one-quarter-inch square heels, if you are able to momentarily balance on only one heel, you apply a pressure of 480 pounds per square inch. Thus Chauvin was likely applying 200 + pounds of pressure to his neck.



The typical maximal force exerted by an adult male is approximately 400 pounds, whereas an adult female may exert a maximum force of around 250 pounds. Nevertheless, this can significantly differ depending on the person.

You people are so f***ing stupid you don't even know basic physics. This thread is a joke.

A world-renowned breathing expert has told the George Floyd murder trial that the 46-year-old died from "lack of oxygen".

Dr Martin Tobin, a lung and critical care specialist from Chicago, said in his testimony at the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin that Mr Floyd's breathing was too shallow to take in enough oxygen while he was pinned facedown with his hands cuffed behind his back for around nine-and-a-half minutes.

He said he had watched footage of the arrest "hundreds of times" to help make a diagram of where the officers were positioned in relation to Mr Floyd when he was on the ground.

The diagram (seen above) was presented to the jury and shows Chauvin's left knee on Mr Floyd's neck and his right knee on his arm and chest.

Dr Bill Smock, an emergency doctor who works in forensic medicine, supported Dr Tobin's conclusions.

A police surgeon for the Louisville Metro Police Department, he is an expert in asphyxia - or strangulation - and also told the trial Mr Floyd died because "he had no oxygen left in his body".

The jury was shown an image of the move. In the photo, the toe of Chauvin's boot is off the ground. Dr Tobin said that meant all of the ex-officer's body weight was "being directed down onto Mr Floyd's neck", at this point in the arrest.

Dr Tobin told the court on Thursday that the positioning of handcuffs at Mr Floyd's back as he was arrested, and the fact that he was face down on the street, was key evidence.

The handcuffs were pushed high into Mr Floyd's back through the actions of the officers, and he was effectively sandwiched between the street and the officers, putting his left side "in a vice", the court heard.

Dr Tobin said the effect on his left lung was deadly.

"Because of the knee that was rammed in against the left side of his chest... basically on the left side of his lung... it was almost... to the effect as if a surgeon had gone in and removed the [left] lung," he said.

"Not quite, but along those lines."

There was "very little opportunity" for Mr Floyd to get oxygen into his lungs, Dr Tobin added.



The jury was shown an image from Mr Floyd's arrest and asked to look at his fingers, which he appears to be pressing against the tyre of the police car he was pinned down next to.

Mr Floyd is using his fingers and knuckles to lift up his right side in a bid to get oxygen into his lungs, Dr Tobin says.

"In the left image you see [his hand] on the street. Over on the right you see his knuckle against the tyre.



"To most people this doesn't look terribly significant, but to a physiologist it's extraordinarily significant, because this tells you he has used up his resources and he's now literally trying to breathe with his fingers and knuckles."

Your initial posts were just spamming the charges in the verdict over and over. So without wasting tons of time, the verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse case was not guilty. The verdict for George Zimmerman was also not guilty. So do you agree with those verdicts. If not you are a hypocritical cunt.

You can get on your knees and apply anywhere from 1 pound of force, sure, well over a hundred
You haven’t proved shit other than that. A picture with Chauvin’s foot off the ground does not prove he was doing it the entire ten minutes. You talk about physics and hundreds of pounds of pressure, but you literally proved jack shit. You’re not even worth the time.

[yick]

“Shut up cunt” Nah, I don’t have to, whiny f***ing bitch. What are you gonna do about it? That’s right nothing.

It's only because you're some online, internet hero gobshite. No job, hopes.

“No you don’t use quotation marks for gist”

I’m typing on an ipad, so retyping up your quotes get occasionally botched slightly by mistake. Ya happy now, ya dumb f***ing cunt?

Thick cunts blame their ipads.

“Yes we agree on something”

Glad we both agree that you’re a pea brained cunt.

Which is why it is going so well for you now, eh?

“No what I’m what saying is the medical expert who got Chauvin sent down DIDN’T produce the drug or did he.”

So “trust the medical experts” in Chauvin’s case unless it’s the medical experts that approve of a drug which kills tens of thousands of people, which you admit. Quite the double standard don’t you think, lying cunt?

I have admitted nothing of the sort you utter clown - it is - not relevant.

“You have no proof that was the reason”

I never said it was 100% die hard proof. But it is 100% plausible, common sense. A judge might not just want to get shot for a verdict.

It is a theory with no basis in reality, you're a f***ing idiot, what common sense do you have?

“Quote people correctly or not all”

This is quite a demand coming from a lying cunt that intentionally takes peoples’ quotes out of a context to lie like a bitch.

@WanderingProtagonist is this the 'total ownage' you are talking about?

“Your opinion is moot, not important.”

Yes, it’s an opinion in a forum for the sake of discussion. Just like nobody has to listen to the retarded opinions of a braindead cunt named Yick.

Yeah, but here you are.

“What might happen in the future is that Derek Chauvin might get a retrial on any new evidence that might surface.”

Right, and you have no idea whether or not that might turn into a not guilty verdict or not. But according to you if it did turn into a not guilty verdict you wouldn’t believe in it anyway because according to you Chauvin is a murderer no matter what. If the courts are in Texas or Florida you won’t “trust the experts” or “trust the courts” there because, again, you are lying cunt.

OK, is there a date set for a retrial? Yes or no?

“Chauvin is NOT innocent”

Yaaawn, simply stating that Chauvin is not innocent doesn’t make it true. According to you if Texas or Florida found him to be innocent you wouldn’t believe it, lying cunt.

Of course it is my opinion but a man did die under his arrest which is why he is sat in jail as a convicted murderer.

“There ya go, stop your whinging”

This coming from a whiny bitch

Took about three mintues to refute all your bullshit.

[yick]

“The court say he was 183 pounds when he had his knee on Floyd’s neck”

That has nothing to do with your bullshit claim that I said Chauvin’s NAKED weight was 140 pounds, you deflecting, lying cunt. Which as usual you never back up.

You said that you f***ing idiot, I swear you are typing whilst high on crack.

“You are if you’re saying that he weighed 140 pounds when he had his knee on Floyd’s neck”.

No. I never said that that he weighed 140 pounds WHEN he had his knee on Floyd’s neck ya lying cunt.

You did. It is all there you delirious crackhead.

“Show me where I said that”

I just did you lying bitch. And even posted a dictionary link for “All told.” You are a pathologically lying cunt.

You haven't. You are an illiterate idiot.

“Well, there you go then-shut up”

Perhaps the lying bitch named Yick should stfu.

Nah, the routing is getting easier and quicker every time you post

“The judge and jury think the same so he is in jail….. so shut the f**k up”

The judge and juries thought the same about innocent men that spent decades in prison. So you should probably shut your own ass up, bitch.

And there are plenty of people who do their full sentence, that might not happen with Derek as someone tries to stab him to death again.

“What I said that none of it is relevant”

What you also did was admit those things happened. Yet, you claim I wasn’t right about anything. You are a lying cunt.

No I didn't, I said they're not relevant. NOT RELEVANT.

“Well, he might have got off in Texas”.

Yes according to you the Texas courts would be letting him get away with murder. You are lying cunt. “Trust the courts” “Trust the experts”, but not the ones in Texas and Florida. You are one dumb son of a lying bitch.

This is too easy, all I have to say is I never said any of those things to everything you post now as you are lying through your teeth and making things up.

He might have got off with it but it’s moot because it took place in Minnesota.

No it’s not moot because according to you the court system in Texas and Florida let’s murderers get off. Yet you’re saying trust the verdict the court and the experts in Minnesota. You are a lying bitch.

The laws are different, that's all, I didn't say 'they let murderers off' I said he would have had a better chance of getting off which he might have doine but then he might have gone down for the murder of George Floyd in either Florida or Texas.

That they 'let murderers off' in Texas or Florida is something of a pavlovian response of yours to what your real thoughts are about Derek Chauvin I fancy.