Russia's Invasion of Ukraine, aka "Putin's Special Operation"

[Voyager1]

russia won't get one god damn inch of of our territory. Not one god damn inch. Assassinate him if he comes to Alaska. Kill the bugger

[Yohan]

russia won't get one god damn inch of of our territory. Not one god damn inch.....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/put ... 22241.html

Full article see link above.

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s reported proposal for a ceasefire in Ukraine, which would require Kyiv to cede regions in the east, sparked a firm response from European leaders on Saturday ahead of President Trump’s summit with the Kremlin leader in Alaska next week.
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky dismissed the idea of Ukraine cede large chunks of it’s land as part of the talks, saying Saturday morning that “of course, we will not give Russia any awards for what it has done.”

“The Ukrainian people deserve peace,” he said, emphasizing that “Ukrainians will not give their land to an occupier.”

European leaders reiterated their calls for Ukraine to have “credible” security guarantees as part of the peace talks to “defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity.”

I do not expect anything will change with the war in Ukraine if this meeting Putin/Trump really will take place in Alaska. No results....

What should this mean anyway? USA and Russia decide what to do and ignore totally all European countries and Ukraine?

USA might agree with Russia, but neither EU nor Ukraine will agree to give up land to Russia.

[Voyager1]

Could Putin be arrested during US visit with Trump
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/co ... r-AA1KrfkV

Israel, and the United States are not a part of the court, meaning they don’t have to comply.

So the answer is no. putin will not be arrested if he visits Alaska

[Yohan]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-149964 ... gains.html

Just a few sentences from this long report. Full text see link above.

13 August 2025
Russian progress in Ukraine has accelerated every month since April.

Between August 12, 2024 and August 12, 2025, the Russian army captured more than 6,100 square kilometres, four times more than the previous year, according to the AFP analysis of the institute's data.

However, these Russian advances account for less than 1 percent of pre-war Ukraine's territory, including Crimea and Donbass.

Russia currently has full or partial control over 19 percent of Ukrainian territory.

[Yohan]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ger ... 17638.html

Full report see link above

Associated Press
Thu, August 14, 2025
BERLIN (AP) — Germany announced on Wednesday that it will work with a group of Ukraine’s Western backers to supply a package of military aid to the war-ravaged country worth up to $500 million using a new NATO supply line.

Earlier this month, NATO started coordinating regular deliveries of large weapons packages to Ukraine after the Netherlands said that it would provide air defense equipment, ammunition and other military aid worth 500 million euros ($582 million).

Sweden announced the following day that it would contribute $275 million to a joint effort along with its Nordic neighbors Denmark and Norway to provide $500 million worth of air defenses, anti-tank weapons, ammunition and spare parts.

It seems EU countries are now starting to send also more and more weapons to Ukraine, the basic intention is to help Ukraine to produce most weapons by itself and to be much less independent from USA-related deliveries.

[Voyager1]

Just watched Trump and putin meet. Trump was too clappy and putin got nervous at the flyover

[Winston]

So far the Trump-Putin summit is not looking good for Ukraine. MSNBC explains why below. What you think @Yohan? What do you predict the outcome will be?

https://youtu.be/Vc73vMhv0I8?si=LzBNwiJXbCCSdwTm

[Winston]

Could Putin be arrested during US visit with Trump
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/co ... r-AA1KrfkV

Israel, and the United States are not a part of the court, meaning they don’t have to comply.

So the answer is no. putin will not be arrested if he visits Alaska

Of course not. Trump would never do that. He is biased on Putin's side and likes Putin. Putin would never come to Alaska if there was any chance of him being arrested. Trump has to guarantee his safety of course. Plus Russia could send troops to Alaska easily since it's so close to Russia, if they had to rescue Putin.

[Voyager1]

Double



That wasn't the real putin as Jake Broe points out. putin would never risk arrest or assassination

[Winston]

Prof. Jeffrey Sachs spells out exactly what needs to be done for there to be peace in Ukraine. He makes some sense but US war hawks and the US military industrial complex won't like it.

[Voyager1]

That professor says the root causes of the war is nato expansion eastward but if nato wants to expand eastward they can. If Ukraine wants to join nato they are welcome to apply. It's none of Russia's or putin's business. There's also all the rubbish claims about nazis in Ukraine and persecution of Russian speakers. It's all bullocks. Russia just wants to reclaim territory they lost. Should they get Alaska back too?

That video you posted is of a Hindi/Indian source. They are pro Russian.

That professor is an idiot

[Winston]

I don't get why Ukrainians are willing to give up their lives for land. That's a stupid senseless trade. No way is land more valuable than human life. Also it's stupid that European leaders won't compromise with Putin or make any concessions. All they want is total victory.

[Voyager1]

I don't get why Ukrainians are willing to give up their lives for land. That's a stupid senseless trade. No way is land more valuable than human life. Also it's stupid that European leaders won't compromise with Putin or make any concessions. All they want is total victory.

Yeah but why then is putin willing to sacrifice so many Russian soldier's lives to capture that section of land in Eastern Ukraine? Makes no sense. Russia is already the largest country in the world by land mass. They don't need any more land. They need to develop their own land

[Voyager1]

Russian drone attack kills seven in Kharkiv, including two children
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-confl ... r-AA1KJtAV

KHARKIV, Ukraine (Reuters) - A Russian drone attack on a residential area in Kharkiv killed seven people including a toddler and a 16-year-old boy overnight, Ukrainian authorities said on Monday, as the United States presses Kyiv to accept a quick deal to end the war that Moscow started.

"Just accept a quick deal." I think the Ukrainian people are saying no way

[Voyager1]

I don't get why Ukrainians are willing to give up their lives for land. That's a stupid senseless trade. No way is land more valuable than human life. Also it's stupid that European leaders won't compromise with Putin or make any concessions. All they want is total victory.

So if China invades Taiwan and starts killing people Taiwan should just give their land to China? That sets a precedent that one nation can just take over another nation by killing people.

If Ukraine gives into putin he is just going to keep going - the rest of Ukraine and other nations. Poland, Moldova, Latvia, Estonia and more.

You gotta think these things through.

Also Ukrainians don't want to live under Russian tyranny. Some of them do but most do not