I really don't care anymore about this discussion, most men don't bother to control their women anymore anyway because they don't have what it takes to lead in the first place which is why their ass is getting colonized by men from hostile cultures.Pixel--Dude wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2024, 11:04 pmNo! A child cannot give consent to something they don't understand. The part that you quoted I'm referring to anyone under the age of 14. How can a child consent to sex? It's just sickening! Do you believe an animal can consent to sex if its owner gives it permission and a judge approves the act of beastiality? In both cases this is just abuse and nothing more than that.dancilley wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2024, 2:36 amA child under the age of consent cannot consent, unless she is married (in most states where it is legal to have sex with a minor if you are married to her). A child can consent if a parent and judge have approved the marriage, and sexual intercourse happens in a state where there is a marriage exception to statutory rape. It is legal to have sex with a minor to whom an adult is married (in most states).
The social convention of marriage changes nothing and is just a convenient smokescreen for people like you to justify taking a young adolescent as a kind of slave bride. I agree with something @CaptainSkelebob2 said a while ago that I thought was pretty funny. "The only gated community you belong in is prison."
Of course I was attracted to teenagers in high school. I was socially awkward and never acted on it though. I think a lot of guys might find teenagers attractive physically, but it's their childlike mentality which stops most normal guys. I think that's why the sexy schoolgirl outfit works for some guys, but they generally have it on a women who is fully mature. Still, I think the whole thing is pretty weird. I don't get the fascination.Everyone is attracted to teenagers, but they are uncomfortable going there mentally. They may find it difficult to admit that they are attracted to teenagers. You are not attracted to teenagers? You weren't attracted to girls in high school?
Are you a parent? Do you have any idea how much effort and responsibility goes into raising a child? You wouldn't have a f***ing clue! Adolescents do not make good parents. They're little more than children themselves. A girl should enjoy some freedom before dedicating her life to raising a child.Females don't have to be mentally mature in order to marry and produce babies and take care of them. Doing so is automatic--it's the most natural thing, like breathing air or drinking water when you're thirsty, or eating food when you are hungry. You are just parroting what the mainstream media says. The mainstream media wants everyone to believe that teen girls are incapable of being a good mother, that childbirth is a medical emergency, that raising children requires nearly a million dollars per child, etc. Only if a female is mentally abnormal--a sociopath or psychopath or schizophrenic or something like that--would she be unfit to be a mother. But normal, healthy girls of menstruating age won't have a problem taking care of children. What's so difficult about that? Does that require a lot of brain power? Maturity that only older females possess? Girls aren't able to take care of children? They will neglect them and let them die?
I've seen teen mothers pushing prams down the street with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth. They look rough as f**k and probably don't know the first thing about raising a child. And neither do you. How can someone who can barely look after themselves be responsible for looking after someone else?
And here we reach the crux of it all. This quote right here demonstrates exactly what I said to @WanderingProtagonist about you. That you're a perverted little narc who just sees women as walking meat marionettes to be used and f***ed and controlled by her husband and confined to the house, penned up like cattle.All women are children anyway. Females are not really designed to navigate the outside world; they are designed to be at home and have someone else guide them (their father or husband). They cannot handle the stress of the "real world." They thrive when indoors and protected from the elements. If they have a job, it is usually indoors. They thrive when at home under the financial care and physical protection of a man (living in a safe location isolated from crime). If limited to the home environment where they don't worry about finances at all because the husband takes care of that, then females thrive. They don't have to have a fully developed frontal lobe or whatever; the man requires that in order to be competitive in the employment marketplace; the female does not require the brainpower and discipline that managing money and going to work each day requires. The female gets to stay home, and the sounds and actions of her baby automatically cause her to act to provide appropriate care for the baby.
When a man goes to work, it feels good if he applies energy and action toward the production of income (resources). In other words, when he goes out and "makes a killing" and "brings home the bacon," it makes him feel good. When a woman does the same, it doesn't make her feel good, but she rather feels a sense of resentment and sadness that she has to be the one to do that (because a man is expected to). What makes her feel good is if she is around other females and men and is accepted and feels attractive. Purely making money doesn't make women happy because it's not built into them to; that's the man's job. Women are biologically programmed to receive resources from men. When at work, women do not work hard, unless to show off and get attention so that a potential husband takes notice. They cannot just focus on the work and earn money. They always have to be around other people and talking. They hate working. At least when a man works, he is motivated to work because when he earns the money and sees that paycheck, he gets to attract females and support his family. All women are oriented toward receiving attention and resources from a man; when a female is in a social environment, what gratifies her is when men are attracted to her, and women are friendly to her and provide emotional support. The proof of this is that women do not do jobs in which people are not close by (unless they are a masculine, lesbian female). If they are working as a telephone customer service representative at home, she very probably has a child in the home with her, but again, she is working a job where she is talking to people. They are very rarely truck drivers, security guards at night, firefighters, welders, electricians, plumbers, electrical linemen, etc. They don't have passion to really get their hands dirty and earn money. They may be a nurse who works 12-hour shifts, but they only do that because it is a last resort because they are too old to attract a husband who can fully provide financially for her, so they have to work, but their job is in a hospital where they are around a lot of people, and nurse jobs are by default 12-hour shifts; they can't work shorter shifts. All females who are married and who have a husband who makes good enough money stay home; they do not work. You may see women work as waitresses, but they are single or they are a single mother, and again, they are around a lot of people. It is very unnatural for a female to work outside the home. They must be under a huge amount of stress working outside the home and not being married. They are in a state of crisis and are hoping to market themselves to a potential husband. And if they are married and working outside the home, they aren't just working for extra income--what they are doing, is hoping to find a better husband who would earn enough money that would enable them to stay home. In a lot of cases, women just don't get married unless they can find a husband who would enable them to stay home; because what's the point of being married if she has to go to work each day? The husband doesn't want her to be around other men anyway.
The female is simply a vessel through which the man produces children, and she should also be a good cook. She provides domestic comfort (as Coach Red Pill said--R.I.P. by the way). What makes a wife not good is if she is a drug addict, alcoholic, marijuana addict, adulterer, etc. If she is pure and totally focused on the husband and family, everything is good. Aging from 13 to 18 will not improve a female's ability to be a good wife and mother. It will probably have the opposite effect due to if she has had experience with other males already, whom will attempt to communicate with her and distract her, or at least will interfere with her ability to pair-bond and give her husband undivided attention.
Hey, @Lucas88 doesn't this rant above remind you of these other tradcon losers who think women should be penned up like animals and have no freedom or thoughts of their own?
That isn't a mentality of someone who is looking for a loving relationship based on mutual respect and authentic love. That's just the ramblings of an incel beta male who wants to create a sexual communism which ensures women don't get a say in anything that happens to them and incels can trick them into marriage when they're young and impressionable and their brains haven't even fully developed.
I think it's disgusting personally.
African and Muslim men don't believe in that gender equality shit that's why women don't run their societies or have any say in their laws and governance. And these aren't entirely Tradcon males either, they just come from a world where men hold power and women do not, they also see how cucked the West really is after giving women equal rights or too much of it with all of it's "Equality" and are exploiting and taking full advantage of it.
Various tribes do things differently. But that doesn't make them weak. You can't think of every relationship from a Western point of view Pixel...In some tribes women really can't do much without the man's say so, but it's part of their culture and the woman is aware of this but still does not complain and is very content with serving her husband in that manner. Look how in America Muslim women still prefer to be with their highly dominant husbands. They have the freedom to leave them to be with someone who will allow them to have a lot of freedom but do they give up on their men because of this? No, so it's obvious they find these traits attractive about their own men. Other wise they could just leave and date or marry one of the many cucked out Western white males who will just let her lead and he follows her like a puppy dog. Or he gets her to f**k some negro in front of him so he can jerk off to it and pretend how he inferior he is to him.
I mean hell I've had girls outright get upset just because I wouldn't try to control them. But these were mostly colored women, and colored women will test how dominant you are in a relationship. The only time they don't do that is when they get involved with someone who isn't the same ethnicity as they are. But I'm light skinned and partially mixed. But since my mother is black that means I'm half so I still get the shit test from black women treatment. Overall it depends on the woman but there's a reason black women get overlooked so much and it's because of their unwillingness to be easily dominated/controlled.
They love to shit test first and get combative vs just allowing you to walk into their life and have control over them, they won't make it easy unless you are a white male. I see nothing wrong with traditional relationships. I wouldn't mind having a traditional relationship either. As for Lucas, I'm sure he doesn't to much care. He doesn't even do committed relationships. either way each culture is different. In Native circles women did the nurturing and caring for the home. The men did the hunting and brought the food home for the wife to cook it. There were roles that were important in these tribes, and today some are still like this. A man doesn't have to abuse his woman, but the truth is, we can look at society today and see what giving women too much freedom has done for society....THEY f***ed IT UP with help from all the weak passive males.
As for Dancilly, -shrugs- this seems rather pointless debating back and forth about the subject at hand.
Might as well just consider it a case closed.