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Shemp wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 7:56 am
Letters in the name "corona", according to position in the alphabet:

Add them up: 3+15+18+15+14+1=66

6 letters that sum to 66: 666 = Satan's number
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David Icke joins Alex Jones to expose the dangers of shutting down society in the face of the coronavirus pandemic.





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The elite seem to be obsessed with the number 33 and put it in the news all the time. Someone sent me many articles that show this. Here are two.





In fact, the genome of Coronavirus ends in 33 A's at the end, with each letter having a 1 out of 4 chance. What are the odds of that? Next to zero. Something fishy is going on.
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Check this out. The Bill Gates foundation organized a coronavirus drill in Oct 2019, two months before the actual outbreak occurred! WTF? How did Gates know in advance that it would happen? Is that fishy or what?

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China should be treated as an international pariah for generations to come because of this. Still, they seemingly get a pass from the mainstream media.

I think the only hope is for the people to rise up and overthrow the regime as hard as that would be. But when the people have had enough, no government can stop the onslaught.

Perhaps Hong Kong should stage a popular coup and the mainland should follow suit while China's leadership is bogged down in Hong Kong.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 7:18 pm
China should be treated as an international pariah for generations to come because of this. Still, they seemingly get a pass from the mainstream media.

I think the only hope is for the people to rise up and overthrow the regime as hard as that would be. But when the people have had enough, no government can stop the onslaught.

Perhaps Hong Kong should stage a popular coup and the mainland should follow suit while China's leadership is bogged down in Hong Kong.
I agree with a lot of what you have written and they definitely need to pay repatriations but the regime that's in power now is the culture.

If it went tomorrow and democracy came into being - opposition would still be jailed and silenced, internet would still be monitored and the media would still be under lockdown - if you see how it has gone with Russia and democracy then you can see it has reverted to how it was under the old Soviet Union but a lot worse.

Also, giving millions of ultra-nationalistic headbangers the vote is a bad idea - we see now that when China falls out of the bed the foundations of the house shake - I wouldn't trust the average Chinese person with a vote because a good number of them would happily use it to vote for some racist, nationalistic fascist who would bomb Japan if they got into power.

I understand the legitimacy of democracy - for the likes of Norway and Finland but the Chinese would never get to grips on it - I love them and everything but.. :(
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HouseMD wrote:
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Interesting video. What I don't get is, if bats can spread pandemics like this, then why didn't it happen before in the last 5000 years? Why didn't it happen in the 1800's for example? Why now?
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Winston wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 9:09 pm
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April 3rd, 2020, 5:59 pm
Interesting video. What I don't get is, if bats can spread pandemics like this, then why didn't it happen before in the last 5000 years? Why didn't it happen in the 1800's for example? Why now?
It has been crossing over to humans, SARS is one example. And there testing showed people were getting infected in some rural ares in China. As you go back in time we simply did not have the means to test or even understand what a virus was. There has been many pandemics. The Hong Kong flu of 1968. The Asian flu of 1957. And the Spanish flu of 1918.
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Winston wrote:
April 3rd, 2020, 9:09 pm
What I don't get is, if bats can spread pandemics like this, then why didn't it happen before in the last 5000 years? Why didn't it happen in the 1800's for example? Why now?
I think it happened in the past, why not?

However as far as I can read out of some articles on the internet, there was no significant research regarding bats/virus up to 1910, around that time researchers considered the strong possibility, that bats carry and transfer certain diseases to animals and humans, but will not get sick or die themselves...

Deep-in Bat/Virus research is a very new project, not older than 10 years or so. It's complicated, costly and impossible to do anything without special tools.
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http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200405000150

This is really a serious problem, you survive, recover and a while after you are reinfected again.

Now already 19 people are known in South Korea testing positive again after a full recovery. More research is urgently needed to study the behavior of the virus inside a body of a person after he survives and recovers.

However also Japan reported some cases of re-infection, it seems you can catch the corona-virus twice or more and likely also transfer it to other people...

More patients being diagnosed with COVID-19 twice

The number of people testing positive for the novel coronavirus for the second time after making a full recovery is growing, sparking fresh concern in the country’s fight against the pathogen.

Health authorities are on high alert as seven staff and inpatients at a nursing hospital in North Gyeongsang Province were rediagnosed with COVID-19.

The nursing hospital was closed after reporting nearly 70 confirmed virus cases, including seven deaths.

This pushed the number of repeat patients in the region to 17 as of Sunday. Twelve of them were reported over the span of three days last week.

In one of the cases, a 41-year-old virus patient was discharged from isolation in late March upon a full recovery, but tested positive for the virus again on April 3, 11 days after being discharged, according to provincial officials.

An epidemiological survey is underway to determine whether the virus had reemerged from within the patient’s system or if it was caught for the second time from someone else, health authorities said.

As the daily average of patients catching the virus hovers at around 100, Korea has recently seen an uptick in the number of people identified with the virus for a second time.

Following the rediagnosis of a family in Gimpo, Gyeonggi Province, last month, Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevetion Director Jeong Eun-kyeong took a cautious approach on the cause of the reappearance of the virus.

“There have been over 10 cases of rediagnosis in Korea. We will gather more information on this and continue to look into it with specialists and epidemiologists,” said KCDC Director -General Jeong Eun-kyeong in a briefing last month. An update on the rediagnosis cases across the country was not available.

“We need to review them case by case to see if they were reinfected or the virus within their system had been revived. … Experts seem to be leaning toward reactivation of the virus, but an in-depth analysis is needed,” she added.

There have also been reports of infections after the elapsing of the 14-day quarantine period, or incubation period.

A 31-year-old patient who spent over three weeks in self-quarantine tested positive for the pathogen Saturday.

He had been in quarantine since March 11 after coming into contact with his older brother, a virus patient, who has a travel history to Germany and France.
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Can you catch the coronavirus twice? We don’t know yet

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Can you catch the coronavirus twice? We don’t know yet

Not only China and Japan, but South Korea also reports patients who recovered and became re-infected again.

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Can you catch the coronavirus twice? We don’t know yet
We don’t have enough evidence yet to know if recovering from covid-19 induces immunity, or whether any immunity would give long-lasting protection against the coronavirus

SAY you have caught covid-19 and recovered – are you now immune for life, or could you catch it again? We just don’t know yet.

In February, reports emerged of a woman in Japan who had been given the all-clear after having covid-19 but then tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus a second time. There have also been reports of a man in Japan testing positive after being given the all-clear, and anecdotal cases of second positives have emerged from China, too.

This has raised fears that people may not develop immunity to the virus. This would mean that, until we have an effective vaccine, we could all experience repeated rounds of infection.

But the science is still uncertain. “There is some anecdotal evidence of reinfections, but we really don’t know,” says Ira Longini at the University of Florida. It may be that the tests used were unreliable, which is a problem with tests for other respiratory viruses, says Jeffrey Shaman at Columbia University in New York.

Early signs from small animal experiments are reassuring. A team from the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences in Beijing exposed four rhesus macaques to the virus. A week later, all four were ill with covid-19-like symptoms and had high virus loads. Two weeks later, the macaques had recovered and were confirmed to have antibodies to the virus in their bloodstream.

“You can be infected with other coronaviruses over and over. We don’t know if that’s true for this virus”

The researchers then tried to reinfect two of them but failed, which suggests the animals were immune (bioRxiv, doi.org/ggn8r8). “That finding is very encouraging, as it suggests that it is possible to induce protective immunity against the virus,” says Alfredo Garzino-Demo at the University of Maryland School of Medicine.

But that doesn’t necessarily mean long-term immunity. There are other coronaviruses circulating among humans and although they induce immunity, this doesn’t last. “Some other viruses in the coronavirus family, such as those that cause common colds, tend to induce immunity that is relatively short-lived, at around three months,” says Peter Openshaw at Imperial College London.

“Because [the virus] is so new, we do not yet know how long any protection generated through infection will last. We urgently need more research looking at the immune responses of people who have recovered from infection to be sure,” says Openshaw.

Other immunologists agree. “Immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is not yet well understood and we do not know how protective the antibody response will be in the long-term,” says Erica Bickerton at the Pirbright Institute in the UK.

“For ordinary coronavirus infections, you do not get lasting immunity,” says Longini. “You can be infected over and over, and we really don’t know for this novel coronavirus if that’s also true.”

Other infectious disease specialists are more optimistic. “The evidence is increasingly convincing that infection with SARS-CoV-2 leads to an antibody response that is protective. Most likely this protection is for life,” says Martin Hibberd at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine. “Although we need more evidence to be sure of this, people who have recovered are unlikely to be infected with SARS-CoV-2 again.”
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That's very creepy. Maybe this virus is composed of nanobots that re-emerge after recovery. Doesn't seem like a natural virus. Maybe it was engineered by the elite or deep state to depopulate the world, which the elite have been wanting to do for a long time? It even says on the Georgia Guidestones that they want the world population to fall to 500 million only. So you can't rule it out right?
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Winston wrote:
April 6th, 2020, 4:29 am
That's very creepy. Maybe this virus is composed of nanobots that re-emerge after recovery. Doesn't seem like a natural virus. Maybe it was engineered by the elite or deep state to depopulate the world, which the elite have been wanting to do for a long time? It even says on the Georgia Guidestones that they want the world population to fall to 500 million only. So you can't rule it out right?
Yes, it's creepy - it requires deep-in research about the human's immunity system - what happens after recovery, about where are these antibodies which should prevent re-infection in these few people - will these antibodies be created or not, and if yes when will they created, how long will these antibodies protect a recoverd patient etc.

South Korean medical staff found so far 19 people clearly re-infected after recovery, this means re-infection is real. It cannot be said, this is just accidentally because of incorrect testing - and in Japan there are similar reports about a FEW patients who were released as recovered but a week later, following up a second testing they were found positive again. It sometimes happens. So far however, neither the Koreans nor the Japanese know why.

However the huge majority of recovered and released patients tested negative when tested again a week or so after their release from hospitals.
In Korea only 19 out of more than 6000 recovered patients tested were found re-infected, but why? From inside of their bodies because some virus were hiding, or from outside from other infected people? Nobody knows.

I do no trust anything what is in the Chinese media, but I also do not believe much what I find in US-based conspiracy articles.

Here in Japan, considering medical research, people trust South Korean media reports about the corona virus a lot.

South Koreans are really experienced with virus infections, it's not the first time they had to deal with it - just a little country, very overpopulated with 52 million people and it has a very strong police and military organization, including military medical facilities and staff. It also has a high standard civil health service with very good hospitals.

If you listen to respnsible medical doctors in charge, there is no indication of a created or escaped virus from a Chinese research facility.

The reaction of the South Korean government and medical response was really quick, no chaos, all perfectly organized.
Everything was available, no shortages of testing kits, hospital beds, medical staff, highly professional protective clothes to avoid infections between patients and nurses etc.

This video is really a very interesting talk, worth to listen...It is in Korean, but with very good translated subtitles in English.

Korean research links this virus as originally coming from bats - transferred to unknown animals - and from there over to humans.
Nothing else suspicious has been found so far.



There are daily report without cover-up anything, this is the report of today. More people recover and less people are found to be infected.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200407000217
New virus cases fall below 50 for 2nd day, but vigilance urged

New virus cases fall below 50, Tuesday, for the second straight day, but health authorities warned against complacency.

South Korea has recorded around 100 or fewer daily new cases for more than three weeks, but health authorities still remain on high alert over cluster infections at churches and hospitals, as well as new cases coming from overseas.

The 47 new cases, detected Monday and unchanged from 47 new cases a day earlier, brought the nation's total infections to 10,331, according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC).

The nation's death toll from the coronavirus, which emerged in China late last year, rose by six to 192. About 100 recovered from the virus Monday, raising the total number of cured people to 6,694.

Daegu and North Gyeongsang Province, the nation's two worst-affected regions, reported 13 and one new cases, respectively, the KCDC said. The total number of cases reported in Daegu and the surrounding North Gyeongsang Province reached 6,794 and 1,317, respectively.

Other major provinces and cities also reported infections, with Seoul and the surrounding Gyeonggi Province adding four and 10 new cases, respectively.

The country also detected 14 new cases coming from overseas at border checkpoints, raising the country's total number of imported cases to 802.

Seeking to reduce the daily number of new infections below 50, South Korea extended stricter guidelines on social distancing by two weeks to April 19.

South Korea has tested 477,304 people so far.
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