White Genocide Debunked
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The modern day Jews are just a small portion of the Israelites of the Bible, that's if these modern Jews are actually their descendants.
Nine to 10 of the 12 Israelite tribes were mixed back into the general population of the area and became Samaritans. The remaining tribe that was left was Juda, from which the term Jew is taken. So most of the Israelites have been lost, with only the Jews remaining (that's if today's Jews are the same people of the Biblical times). The other remaining tribes were Benjamin and some Levite priests among the tribe of Judah (and maybe some of the tribe of Simeon and whoever moved from Israel down into Judah before they were taken into captivity or admixed with the Assyrians and others).
As for their Biblical accuracy, modern Judaism admits that it is of the Pharisees, which is not true to the Old Testament at all but is the tradition of the rabbis and elders, who basically made up their own commandments that they held above the Bible/ Old Testament / Books of Moses. So in practice they are not actually Jews, because a Jew is supposed to follow the Bible, not the tradition of men. Neither do they believe in Jesus, who is also the LORD of the Old Testament, although they didn't know Him by name in the ancient days.
Nine to 10 of the 12 Israelite tribes were mixed back into the general population of the area and became Samaritans. The remaining tribe that was left was Juda, from which the term Jew is taken. So most of the Israelites have been lost, with only the Jews remaining (that's if today's Jews are the same people of the Biblical times). The other remaining tribes were Benjamin and some Levite priests among the tribe of Judah (and maybe some of the tribe of Simeon and whoever moved from Israel down into Judah before they were taken into captivity or admixed with the Assyrians and others).
As for their Biblical accuracy, modern Judaism admits that it is of the Pharisees, which is not true to the Old Testament at all but is the tradition of the rabbis and elders, who basically made up their own commandments that they held above the Bible/ Old Testament / Books of Moses. So in practice they are not actually Jews, because a Jew is supposed to follow the Bible, not the tradition of men. Neither do they believe in Jesus, who is also the LORD of the Old Testament, although they didn't know Him by name in the ancient days.
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I researched this like 20 years ago and forgot alot, it is a fascinating topic for sure. I know in Israel the Ashkenazi is top dog and Shlomo Sand is a Ash and he says or believes they are imposters. Sephardic is for Spain correct ?Cornfed wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:31 pmApparently Ashkenazi are genetically similar to Sephardic Jews, so I'm not sure where they all originate, but there is a definite genetic connection.Moretorque wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:11 pmIf I am not mistaken 90% of Jews are Ashkenazi and Shlomo Sand says he believes they are converts and there interbreeding has created a race. Going back thousands of years I have been lead to believe when I studied this a little many many groups and peoples in those areas all around were claiming they were of the blood lines of the bible but there is no proof of a direct link....
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Spain is where the term comes from, but now it seems to be associated with dark skinned Middle Eastern types.Moretorque wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:47 pmI researched this like 20 years ago and forgot alot, it is a fascinating topic for sure. I know in Israel the Ashkenazi is top dog and Shlomo Sand is a Ash and he says or believes they are imposters. Sephardic is for Spain correct ?Cornfed wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:31 pmApparently Ashkenazi are genetically similar to Sephardic Jews, so I'm not sure where they all originate, but there is a definite genetic connection.Moretorque wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:11 pmIf I am not mistaken 90% of Jews are Ashkenazi and Shlomo Sand says he believes they are converts and there interbreeding has created a race. Going back thousands of years I have been lead to believe when I studied this a little many many groups and peoples in those areas all around were claiming they were of the blood lines of the bible but there is no proof of a direct link....
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No. Jews of darker-skinned, Middle Eastern extraction are called Mizrahim (from Arab countries and Persia), and Teminim (from Yemen). Sephardic Jews are of Iberian and sometimes Latin American extraction and are often barely distinguishable from Ashkenazi Jews now. They are more identifiable by their names and position among the working class of the society.Cornfed wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 8:00 pmSpain is where the term comes from, but now it seems to be associated with dark skinned Middle Eastern types.Moretorque wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:47 pmI researched this like 20 years ago and forgot alot, it is a fascinating topic for sure. I know in Israel the Ashkenazi is top dog and Shlomo Sand is a Ash and he says or believes they are imposters. Sephardic is for Spain correct ?Cornfed wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:31 pmApparently Ashkenazi are genetically similar to Sephardic Jews, so I'm not sure where they all originate, but there is a definite genetic connection.Moretorque wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:11 pmIf I am not mistaken 90% of Jews are Ashkenazi and Shlomo Sand says he believes they are converts and there interbreeding has created a race. Going back thousands of years I have been lead to believe when I studied this a little many many groups and peoples in those areas all around were claiming they were of the blood lines of the bible but there is no proof of a direct link....
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Yeah but after the Sephardic Jews were kicked out of Spain they often spread to the Middle East, from whence they might or might not have come in the first place. It is all a rich tapestry.Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 8:53 pmNo. Jews of darker-skinned, Middle Eastern extraction are called Mizrahim (from Arab countries and Persia), and Teminim (from Yemen). Sephardic Jews are of Iberian and sometimes Latin American extraction and are often barely distinguishable from Ashkenazi Jews now. They are more identifiable by their names and position among the working class of the society.
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Do you have a source for that or are you just going on speculation?Cornfed wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 9:04 pmYeah but after the Sephardic Jews were kicked out of Spain they often spread to the Middle East, from whence they might or might not have come in the first place. It is all a rich tapestry.Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 8:53 pmNo. Jews of darker-skinned, Middle Eastern extraction are called Mizrahim (from Arab countries and Persia), and Teminim (from Yemen). Sephardic Jews are of Iberian and sometimes Latin American extraction and are often barely distinguishable from Ashkenazi Jews now. They are more identifiable by their names and position among the working class of the society.
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What, a source for the Jews being kicked out of Spain after the Reconquista and going mostly to the Middle East? Isn't that like asking for a source for Germany invading Poland in 1939?Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 9:09 pmDo you have a source for that or are you just going on speculation?Cornfed wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 9:04 pmYeah but after the Sephardic Jews were kicked out of Spain they often spread to the Middle East, from whence they might or might not have come in the first place. It is all a rich tapestry.Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 8:53 pmNo. Jews of darker-skinned, Middle Eastern extraction are called Mizrahim (from Arab countries and Persia), and Teminim (from Yemen). Sephardic Jews are of Iberian and sometimes Latin American extraction and are often barely distinguishable from Ashkenazi Jews now. They are more identifiable by their names and position among the working class of the society.
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The only thing I have come across is that Sephardic Jews sometimes fled to North Africa then went to Europe and the Americas. I have never seen any historical account of Sephardim fleeing to the Middle East (other than to Israel).Cornfed wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 9:53 pmWhat, a source for the Jews being kicked out of Spain after the Reconquista and going mostly to the Middle East? Isn't that like asking for a source for Germany invading Poland in 1939?Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 9:09 pmDo you have a source for that or are you just going on speculation?Cornfed wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 9:04 pmYeah but after the Sephardic Jews were kicked out of Spain they often spread to the Middle East, from whence they might or might not have come in the first place. It is all a rich tapestry.Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 8:53 pmNo. Jews of darker-skinned, Middle Eastern extraction are called Mizrahim (from Arab countries and Persia), and Teminim (from Yemen). Sephardic Jews are of Iberian and sometimes Latin American extraction and are often barely distinguishable from Ashkenazi Jews now. They are more identifiable by their names and position among the working class of the society.
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Well, I am not sure of that either, so lets leave it at that then.Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 11:12 pmThe only thing I have come across is that Sephardic Jews sometimes fled to North Africa then went to Europe and the Americas. I have never seen any historical account of Sephardim fleeing to the Middle East (other than to Israel).
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I am quite sure of it......Cornfed wrote: ↑July 15th, 2020, 12:09 amWell, I am not sure of that either, so lets leave it at that then.Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 11:12 pmThe only thing I have come across is that Sephardic Jews sometimes fled to North Africa then went to Europe and the Americas. I have never seen any historical account of Sephardim fleeing to the Middle East (other than to Israel).
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I go along with the people who wrote the book have been mixed in and being evicted.Neo wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:47 pmThe modern day Jews are just a small portion of the Israelites of the Bible, that's if these modern Jews are actually their descendants.
Nine to 10 of the 12 Israelite tribes were mixed back into the general population of the area and became Samaritans. The remaining tribe that was left was Juda, from which the term Jew is taken. So most of the Israelites have been lost, with only the Jews remaining (that's if today's Jews are the same people of the Biblical times). The other remaining tribes were Benjamin and some Levite priests among the tribe of Judah (and maybe some of the tribe of Simeon and whoever moved from Israel down into Judah before they were taken into captivity or admixed with the Assyrians and others).
As for their Biblical accuracy, modern Judaism admits that it is of the Pharisees, which is not true to the Old Testament at all but is the tradition of the rabbis and elders, who basically made up their own commandments that they held above the Bible/ Old Testament / Books of Moses. So in practice they are not actually Jews, because a Jew is supposed to follow the Bible, not the tradition of men. Neither do they believe in Jesus, who is also the LORD of the Old Testament, although they didn't know Him by name in the ancient days.
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