That is an oversimplified description of Russian society. Even though you are correct that Russkiy implies an ethnic Russian (Many of whom are very ethnically mixed), this in no way makes ethnic minorities who predate Kievan Rus people any less "Real Russian." If you tell them that, I suppose you would get an earful.ladislav wrote: ↑September 16th, 2020, 2:36 amTo understand it, one needs to leave the English language behind and think in Russian. There is a word "Russkiy", and this denotes those people whom you call "White Slavic Russian" ( this term is not translatable into Russian).That makes absolutely no sense. What is a "real Russian" anyway? The White, Slavic Russians we think of in Russia are originally from Ukraine (Kievan Rus) anyhow.
They are people like Putin or Kurnikova or Medvedev. Origin Slavic blood with a great deal of Finnish admixture. They recognize each other by names and faces.Yes, some of their ancestors came from Ukraine, but it was 1000 years ago. Their names are not Ukrainian, and their faces look different, also.In Russia, these are called "Natzmen", ethnic minorities. Kind of like Pakistanis and Jamaicans in England. No Englishman would seriously call those people " English".Chechens, Udege, Evenks, Ulchs, Evens, Nana and several other groups.
In addition, there are many Russians who are Cossacks, Ingush, Lezgin, Dagastani, Tartar, Ossetian, Alans, Avars, Circassians,
In Russia, people never call them "Russkie". They're just called by those names you have posted above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... nic_groups
Not quite. There is ample historical and sociological authority that establishes Russian Cossacks as an ethnic group with several sub-groupings.ladislav wrote: Cossacks are not an ethnic group but a social class, although they like to be seen as an ethnic group, but they would probably be more akin to Texans trying to be a separate ethnic group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks
In the 2002 Russian Census, 140,028 people claimed Cossack ethnicity, with 67,573 people identifying as ethnic Cossack in the Russian Census of 2010. Between 3.5 and 5 million people associate themselves with the Cossack identity in Europe and across the world.
Not so fast. There is evidence of Jews living in Russia going back 1500 years. Also, some Jews may have been indigenous to Russia if you believe the Khazaria conversion theory which some historians dispute. But neither are Slavic Russians indigenous to what is today Russia for the reasons I indicated before.ladislav wrote: Jews were not allowed to live in Russia proper by law in the old times. They lived in Luthuania, Poland, Ukraine, etc. Only after 1917 did they move into Russia. So, it is only 103 years now. Jews are not seen as an indigenous population of the country and are not liked. They are called Hebrews which is what they are. inorodtsy.
But you are incorrect about Jews not being allowed to live in a designated region. It was called the Pale of Settlement and Catherine The Great imposed that restriction in 1791. However, Jews were free to live all over Russia before that time, and even after 1791, they often received special permission to settle across Russia. The below map shows Jewish settlement patterns in the 1800's when you said they were restricted only to the Pale of Settlement.