My Rapist Is Still on Campus

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jtest28 wrote: I don't condone rape, I just simply don't care either way.

Not much different than regular assault. Like regular assault, it should be illegal...
I share your opinion, I do not condone rape, but I see no much difference either to other violent crimes, for example armed robbery - beating somebody up for a wallet with a few dollars.

The problem is more about that nobody knows what rape means anyway.
We all know, what is 'armed robbery' or 'murder' 'kidnapping' etc. but what is 'rape'?

Only a few rape cases are indeed what I expect the word 'rape' is standing for - a brutal crime threatening the victim for sexual favors.

Most 'modern rapes' are very different - there is no violence at all - he and she are drunk, moving on to a private room and next day she regrets and does not even know if she had sex or not and with whom, and this is rape?

Nowadays you might even rape a woman by mobile phone talking BS to her, or you might rape her by not giving her money, or raping her by looking in her direction while sitting in a train etc. etc. Some women only feel being raped a few months later - because their boyfriend is sleeping with another girl etc. etc. - It's ridiculous.

I think, the definition of 'rape' 'consent' etc. has to be reconsidered in Western laws. Now every man in general who is in private contact with a female can be accused to be a rapist if the woman really wants to harm him, even without any wrongdoing by his side.

Women should not be protected like children. They should be kept responsible for their decisions.

If a woman decides out of herself to dress up like slut and is living with thugs for an exciting life-style and something is going wrong... well, true, they should not do that, but openly said, I do not feel sorry for her.
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Yohan: What are you talking about? A lot of things are considered some form of harrassment when it's not, but not everything is said to be rape. It's a general thing that what IS an attack is designated as not an attack & what ISN'T an attack is considered to be one.

As for investigations & such, I don't know the particulars of the situation- so I can't say. I was just pointing out a conflict of interest that WOULD apply numerous times, if there were to be numerous occurances. Saying that the guys was cleared on three different cases is just saying the same guy was given a "green light" a bunch of times in one shot.

Things getting turned down by law enforcement doesn't necessarily mean anything, either. If it doesn't look like an easy win, they might very well not bother. Nothing to say it's not supported by law enforcement, either. They might very well be cut from the same cloth & just act that way in occupational proceedings.
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We are not talking here about 'some form of harrassment when it is not', these 3 women were accusing this man explicitly of rape.

This man was cleared 3 times by an internal investigation, he was accused of 3 rapes by 3 different women.

This man was cleared 3 times by the dean on appeal.

This man was cleared 1 time by police, which rejected the rape claim of this woman with the mattress.

Totally this man was cleared 7 times.

There is no evidence at all of rape, no DNA, no injuries, no witness = just nothing, ZERO.

What shall the university and the police do in such a case, except giving this guy a 'green light'?
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Wolfeye wrote:Yohan: What are you talking about? A lot of things are considered some form of harrassment when it's not, but not everything is said to be rape. It's a general thing that what IS an attack is designated as not an attack & what ISN'T an attack is considered to be one.

As for investigations & such, I don't know the particulars of the situation- so I can't say. I was just pointing out a conflict of interest that WOULD apply numerous times, if there were to be numerous occurances. Saying that the guys was cleared on three different cases is just saying the same guy was given a "green light" a bunch of times in one shot.

Things getting turned down by law enforcement doesn't necessarily mean anything, either. If it doesn't look like an easy win, they might very well not bother. Nothing to say it's not supported by law enforcement, either. They might very well be cut from the same cloth & just act that way in occupational proceedings.
Some of the facts reported in this specific case were that the girl resisted, screamed, said "NO!" unmistakably, and even tried to throw him off physically. Two other girls not well known to her (as in, not a couple of friends roped into lying for her, etc.), came forward with similar stories before they knew this girl's story and specifics.

I believe her story to be credible.

That said, at the same time, I also believe the statement of the jaded cop who said something to the effect of, "I have, maybe, one out of every twenty of these cases turn out to be real and not bullshit". That also sounds likely to me, because, unfortunately for true victims like this girl and her two classmates, a LOT of less scrupulous women do lie and cook up false accusations for all sorts of twisted reasons. Revenge against an ex-boyfriend, financial gain, stupid borderline-personality drama; you name it. Meanwhile, radical feminists have been hard at work enabling more and more of this with every new law that they foist onto the public each year.

This "rape culture" stuff on the university campuses is very much a thing of progressive activists gone out of control. It reminds me of the hysteria of certain conservatives in the '80s over molestation allegations, "Satanism", subliminal messages inserted into metal lyrics, and "repressed memories". There's just something in the American psyche that REALLY needs to hunt down some witches, no matter who's doing it, and no matter what the crazy pretext.

Feminist activists get more brazen every time a new school year rolls around. Meanwhile, true rape victims and innocent men both continue to suffer, while liars make out like bandits. Some "reform", progs.
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WindowLicker wrote:Some of the facts reported in this specific case were that the girl resisted, screamed, said "NO!" unmistakably, and even tried to throw him off physically.
That is just an allegation she came out with months after the alleged event. Even if true, it doesn't seem like anything anyone else should care about. By her own account the slut had agreed to have sex and she was just complaining that he stuck it in her ass rather than vagina. BFD. Sluts want men to be impulsive and dominant, but then think they can whine about the result months or years later if they claim they didn't like it. Stop enabling this crap. Even if the slut's account is true it is more of a lovers' quarrel. Of course sluts deserve to be raped anyway and psychopathic enemy combatants (essentially all Western females) deserve anything they get.
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WindowLicker wrote: Some of the facts reported in this specific case were that the girl resisted, screamed, said "NO!" unmistakably, and even tried to throw him off physically.
This is not a PROOF, this is what she said. Nobody heard anything, there is no other evidence like injuries or DNA - just nothing.

It is even difficult to ask the man for an alibi some months later. If I ask you where have you been on the 8th of February 2014 at 10:00 PM, what will you answer?

The PROOF of the rape is with the accuser, not with the accused. Please keep this in mind.
Two other girls not well known to her (as in, not a couple of friends roped into lying for her, etc.), came forward with similar stories before they knew this girl's story and specifics.
This means she came up months later with a similar story as these two women. The problem is however there are many false allegations, all their testimonies seem to be contradictory and neither the internal investigation, nor the dean on appeal, nor the police are supporting what these 3 women say.

On the other side, the girl with the mattress was complaining about the female internal investigator, that SHE was asking so many details from her, she was also complaining about the police, which finally rejected her allegations.

There must be a reason why so many people, men and women, professionals and non-professional investigators, do not believe these 3 women.

Totally this man was cleared 7 times.
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http://youtu.be/O-l7KjYPK5k

Comments are interesting to read, only 1 feminist defends her - without any evidence of course - just calling people names who doubt her crybaby-rape-story.
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It is good to see that people are finally wising up to this rape industry bullshit.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:It's all a matter of having a very clear definition of rape, of consent and of where lies the burden of truth.
As a philosophical and a practical matter, the issue of consent in this context is absurd. In any case, it is not desirable that females should decide when to have sex. Various traditions such as the Bible make it quite clear how such matters should be handled.
If my wife or daughter [..] was genuinely raped I would want justice for her sake, of course. I assume you would want the same.
Her sake? In such cases the rapist would be devaluing my asset and infringing my reproductive rights respectively, so I would want justice for my sake. In the case of raping my wife, I would see forced sex as being a mitigating factor as compared to consensual sex.
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