Woman Vents About "Nice Guy"

[pandabear]

Friend turned out to be a 'Nice Guy'

Context: 'Matt' and I knew each other for four years, hung out and made fun of each other a lot in groups and by ourselves. Also had kind of serious conversations every once in a while (family, and an incident of assault a couple years ago). Both of us had seen people on and off, totally irrelevant. We had the same sense of humor which is rare for me to find, so I really appreciated him as a friend.

The other night Matt invited me to drinks with two other friends, as he described them. It turned out his male friend was trying to hook up with the female friend, his coworker. Things start out normally but Matt becomes weirdly physical, asking me to sit closer, texting me requests to sit with my legs over him and asking 'why are you playing me?' I was just confused and said something like 'uh, I'm fine,' but he keeps trying to get closer in a way that makes me feel really uncomfortable, and every time I say something he accuses me of 'playing him' or 'f***ing with him.'

The other girl gets up to use the bathroom, and the other guy leans across the table saying 'what the f**k is this bitch's problem? I gotta go, she's saying she has an early day tomorrow' etc. I'm feeling really grossed out at this point.

Then Matt says, 'I've wanted you for a long time. If I hadn't been such a little bitch, we would have hooked up.' He then starts really pressuring me to let him come home with me, and tries to guilt trip me (like, seriously?).

So I have no say in this? This really pissed me off, like he was saying that if he had been more aggressive about 'wanting' me, he would have 'had' me, regardless of my own opinions.

We all leave and Matt insists on walking me home. I tell him he can't come in and he rails against me for 'leading him on' and 'playing him' because apparently our friendship was worthless and he is entitled to what he wants otherwise I am being unfair. I said I had to go upstairs and he pulled me in and ran his hands really forcefully over my body. Then made me promise to cancel a date I had coming up in order to see him again.

That was around a week and a half ago. Last night I got a message from him saying 'hey babe'.

I'm so angry.

My suggestion was

Why not just give him some?

No arguments given, but a heck of a lot of "downvotes" received.

[Bane]

Sounds like he's been reading some bad PUA material (*cough* RSD Julien…)

He deserves what he gets.

[Ghost]

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[MrMan]

I think she should stay away from Matt. If he's interested in her, he can just tell her, without going on some kind of weird double-date, and without groping her. If she's not interested, he shouldn't try to force her to be physical with him.

[RickyRetardo]

Perfect illustration of the toxic aspect of "the red pill".

Games like this don't work most of the time. The few times they do, they run to the Internet and start acting like playing games will guarantee you get some action.

It's idiotic.

Women don't owe you sex. If you think so, go to a doctor and get treated for your neurosis. Then once you're psychologically healthy, go abroad and find a girlfriend like a normal person.