How men and women rate each other

[Traveler]

A lot of women tend to be of average or close to average attractiveness (as rated by men). This is what you would expect and is called a normal distribution in statistics.

However, most men are less attractive than average (as rated by women). This is definitely an abnormal distribution.

[publicduende]

However, most men are less attractive than average (as rated by women). This is definitely an abnormal distribution.

It's definitely not an abnormal distribution, it's called a lognormal distribution.

Nerdy jokes apart, that's the reality of women who have all the choosing power in the West. Come to the Philippines and you'll see a good example of things skewed to our (the men's) favour, to an insane extent.

[flowerthief00]

That now-infamous OKCupid study is real. I saw it myself many years ago when it was on their blog. And then they took it down, probably realizing that it wasn't conducive to increasing revenue.

It's one of numerous evidences that lead to the black-pill conclusion that most women don't like most men.

[Cornfed]

I'd be interested to know whether this was the case before the slutification of females. I think I read somewhere that it wasn't.

[flowerthief00]

I think that it was always true. They simply have more choice now than they ever had before. No need to "settle" for the best you can find from among the handful of bachelors in your neighborhood or village.

[Cornfed]

I think that it was always true. They simply have more choice now than they ever had before. No need to "settle" for the handful of bachelors in your neighborhood or village.

My thinking is that it is a little different in that the way resources are allocated under the current regime actually changes who females find attractive. Say the government paid you millions of dollars if you had children with albino dwarves. Men would cynically have sex with female albino dwarves for the money, but females would actually get physically aroused and attracted by male albino dwarves. Since the care of parasitical females is now communised it is only now that females are inclined to indulge in various weird fetishes involving a small percentage of men.

[flowerthief00]

I don't know about that theory, but if you need any more evidence that most women don't like most men (in, really, any sense of the word "like"), here's a list I compiled awhile back:

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Sex drive
"Study after study shows that men's sex drives are not only stronger than women's, but much more straightforward."
https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex- ... -compare#1


Romanticism
"Other research on gender differences in romantic beliefs has found that men report being more likely to experience “love at first sight”4—one recent survey of 100,000 adults found that 48 percent of men claimed to have fallen in love at first sight, while only 28 percent of women made such a romantic claim.5 In addition, men, compared to women, tended to place a greater emphasis on the importance of feeling passion in their relationships.6 Men have also been found more likely to say “I love you” first in a relationship—and they report greater happiness than women after hearing those words for the first time."
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... n-or-women


Opposite-gender friends
"Men were much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. Men were also more likely than women to think that their opposite-sex friends were attracted to them—a clearly misguided belief. In fact, men’s estimates of how attractive they were to their female friends had virtually nothing to do with how these women actually felt, and almost everything to do with how the men themselves felt..."
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... t-friends/


Asking on dates
"...males reported significantly more instances of asking someone out in the past year. On average, males asked four women out on a first date in the past year. In contrast, most females did not ask anyone out on a first date in the past year."
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... irst-dates


Online dating
"It seems hard to avoid a basic conclusion: that the majority of women find the majority of men unattractive and not worth engaging with romantically, while the reverse is not true."
https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attrac ... g-economy/


Paying for dates
"As shown in Tables 1 and 2, consistent with our first hypothesis, almost all men (82%) and the majority of women (58%) agreed that even after dating for a while, the man ends up paying for most of a couple’s dating expenses."
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.117 ... 4015613107


Paying for things in general
"Despite women’s rising financial strength, a NerdWallet study finds, men are still expected to pay for everything from first dates to monthly bills."
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/finance ... s-couples/


Income
"In a study of 28,000 heterosexuals, 97% of women believe that it is essential to have a partner who has a steady income, and 69% said that it is important to have a partner who makes or will make a lot of money."
This could be considered a smoking gun that women don't love men.
https://www.mantelligence.com/dating-statistics/


Gift-giving
"Who’s spending the most when it comes to gift giving? Unmarried men ages 25–34, according to a composite of studies. In fact, not only are men the bigger spenders when it comes to this, the most romantic holiday of the year, they also do the most gift-giving, with 62% of men expecting to buy a gift for a loved one in 2019, versus only 45% of women."
https://blog.contactpigeon.com/valentin ... tatistics/


Sacrifice
Women are less prone to sacrifice her life (or another woman's life) for the sake of a man.
"Overall, the answers of both female and male respondents suggested that social norms account for greater harming behavior toward a male than a female target"
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 143955.htm


Hypergamy
"Almost half of all women have a back-up plan in place in the event of separation from their current partner, a study has said, Daily Mail reports....In fact, married women are more likely to have a second option in place as compared to those in a relationship."
https://www.indiatoday.in/lifestyle/wha ... 2019-10-19


Break-ups
"Women are emotionally hit hardest after a break-up – but men suffer more in the long term and may never truly get over it."
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 50413.html


Divorce
Women initiate 70% of divorces.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... -heres-why


In-group bias (women seek the company of the same gender more than men do)
Women like women more than men like men.
"Women are nearly five times more likely to show an automatic preference for their own gender than men are to show such favoritism for their own gender"
https://www.apa.org/monitor/dec04/women


Before, during, and after a relationship, and even when the relationship was never about love or sex, mountains of data suggest that women don't like men as much as men like women. And THAT is the real reason that online dating and dating services are a borderline scam.

Surely not all of this is a product of modern-day government or culture.

[Cornfed]

^ Obviously we are all aware that females generally are cold and selfish monsters. It goes without saying that they generally hate each other as well as men, but that could be put down to just good taste.

[flowerthief00]

Nice joke but that's not quite what the data is saying. I do believe that most females love their children.

[Cornfed]

Nice joke but that's not quite what the data is saying. I do believe that most females love their children.

What joke? As for their children, or at least those they don't murder because they put them in a better financial position, it would probably miff them of they died and meant the female had to go back to the drawing board in spreading her genes, justifying and income in child support or welfare or whatever and having someone to sponge off in old age, so that sunk cost mentality might approximate a form of love that females are capable of.

[MrMan]

Men may rate women higher because using make-up, filters, photoshop, and the ability to choose one perfect angle, they are able to make their picture look attractive when they themselves are not attractive at all. I have seen that before. If you see the woman in real life, she's chunky and not particularly attractive, but if you looked at her picture online, you would think she was fit and attractive.