Angry Incel Men

[Man With a Plan]

A lot of these incels are targeting women way out of their league. They need to get realistic and go for a woman close to their attraction level. There's someone for everyone.

Wow. Didn't think anyone other than I had any sense on HA. This exactly. There is no such thing as an incel; this is a fallacy. I understand the whole point: men like and want/need sex. That's fine. What I have no sympathy for is psychopathic murderers who spray and pray heaps of people simply because they can't get any attention from the women they deem themselves worthy of. Let me say that again: from the women that they deem themselves worthy of. It's like, if you're going to go on a killing spree, at least kill cops, politicians, or some other despicable group. But I digress.
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This entire discussion is ridiculous. Anyone who would open fire on random civilians has A LOT more wrong with him than lacking a woman. It's a total misdiagnosis of the problem to start recommending people relocate to abroad over this.

Incel is a stupid word anyway. Virtually no one is really truly incel. Are you a quadriplegic? Ok, maybe I can believe it. Everyone else? There is at least some amount of choice you are exercising in the matter, and therefore "involuntarily" does not apply.

My point exactly, mate.
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It is not that they (well, we, to a larger extent) can't rape females, prey on underaged girls, f**k toothless crones, even live with and f**k nice post-wall middle-aged women or pay extortionate prices for hookers. It is that they/we don't want to do any of that.

Thank you for proving my point! I usually wouldn't address you because unlike Coontrainian, I don't have a secret desire to get shafted by you while you sing me R. Kelly songs, but I had to take advantage of this post. You just summed up why the entire incel community doesn't truly exist and is a fallacy. Don't get me wrong. I've been there with women -- some from outside the west even. I don't condone or approve of the women who kite men along and play games. I hold them somewhat accountable when situations like that go tits up. That said, as someone pointed out earlier, "incels" need to look in the mirror and take accountability. Communities like red pill -- despite the right-wing racist BS -- might be worth a short dive to see what they offer. If you're not attractive, you won't get women. It's that simple. Now, there is also a deeper issue: the male need for female validation. I don't think the answer is fagtow--I mean mgtow--unless you like breaking bread with paedophiles. I think the answer is something more intrinsic than that. But no matter how you cut this, you have to accept the fact that you are not owed sex or attention. Especially when you bat so high above your league.

[Cornfed]

You just summed up why the entire incel community doesn't truly exist and is a fallacy.

This is a bit like saying that there is no such thing as famine as people always have the option of resorting to cannibalism.

[Man With a Plan]

You just summed up why the entire incel community doesn't truly exist and is a fallacy.

This is a bit like saying that there is no such thing as famine as people always have the option of resorting to cannibalism.

Thanks for proving my point for me.

[Ghost]

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[Zambales]

A lot of these incels are targeting women way out of their league. They need to get realistic and go for a woman close to their attraction level. There's someone for everyone.

I think the problem is their social awkwardness, deep-seated insecurities and overall cluelessness about life, in most cases. Because on a lot of forums where incels share their pictures, many of them appear to be pretty fit, in-shape individuals... they work out religiously, watch their food, some even have surgery to correct their weak jawlines and things like that. They have physical flaws and assume this is the reason they fail to get laid, when in fact there are men far less attractive physically who have no issues getting laid because they are not as spastic and clueless around the opposite gender. I think the vast majority of 'incel men' on the internet have a form of (possibly undiagnosed) autism. They're definitely somewhere on the autistic spectrum.

At some point their own self-perceived lack of desirability becomes some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy. It's sad how that happens. But these aren't sociable people, these are guys who are lonely and miserable and feeling left out in a lot of other areas of life, even besides women... they are bitter because the social things that seem to come natural for other young men, are hard if not impossible for them. They're lost and lonely. It's kinda sad, really, only a small percentage of them is actually violent or dangerous. Most of them are just sad.

I think it's a combination of naivety, entitlement, and the fact they produce angry or negative vibes towards women and no gym workout will yield positive results if they carry on in this manner. I look back to when I was a youngster and I was shy and kind of socially awkward but only to women I didn't know who had showed no interest in me beforehand. After a few abrupt rejections I changed my tactics and only pursued women who gave me signs that they liked me. Never had a problem after that but then again I didn't have a hateful & bitter personality, so I wasn't giving off the vibes which women run a mile from.

[Cornfed]

I think it's a combination of naivety, entitlement, and the fact they produce angry or negative vibes towards women and no gym workout will yield positive results if they carry on in this manner.

It doesn't matter what the men do. Most men are going to be sexually starved under feminism, where females can just be sluts having sex with a minority of men since they are married to the government and therefore not dependent on individual men for resources. An example of this is studies where females are asked to rate the appearance of men and whereas in the past you would get a bell curve distribution of responses, now they rate something like 85% of men as being of below average appearance. You are either a young Brad Pitt or Quasimodo as far as they are concerned. There is no in between. Men trying to increase their SMV wouldn't fix the overall picture because hypergamy floats. Females would still only want to f**k the top 10%. Men going to the gym and such would just raise the bar. This is a systemic problem and requires a systemic solution.

[Cornfed]

BTW, even by the unreasonable standards of this thread and if we exclude violent rape or faggotry as an option, some young men are genuinely incel in that they really can’t afford prostitutes or get ugly chicks to f**k them.

[Man With a Plan]

I think it's a combination of naivety, entitlement, and the fact they produce angry or negative vibes towards women and no gym workout will yield positive results if they carry on in this manner.

It doesn't matter what the men do. Most men are going to be sexually starved under feminism, where females can just be sluts having sex with a minority of men since they are married to the government and therefore not dependent on individual men for resources. An example of this is studies where females are asked to rate the appearance of men and whereas in the past you would get a bell curve distribution of responses, now they rate something like 85% of men as being of below average appearance. You are either a young Brad Pitt or Quasimodo as far as they are concerned. There is no in between. Men trying to increase their SMV wouldn't fix the overall picture because hypergamy floats. Females would still only want to f**k the top 10%. Men going to the gym and such would just raise the bar. This is a systemic problem and requires a systemic solution.

NOW you're saying things I can agree with. Yes, women are hypergamous by nature and yet, that means the top 10% of men will get the most play. The solution, of course, is to apply this website's name to your life, but of course, that won't be happening anytime soon. Even then, the HA concept isn't foolproof. Know why? You're all the top (and I use that word VERY loosely) percentage of men when you travel. Your westernness is what gives you clout overseas. Let's not pretend that 99% of the men (also used loosely) here would get so much as a second glance if they were nationals of non-western nations. There is a reason you get so much play. Think about it: Why would a woman reject her culture and her own biological partner for you?

Hypergamy. The only problem is that you're all experiencing your brand of it in the west. I'm sure non-western nationals are saying the same things in Tagalog, Russian/Cyrillic/WhateverIt'sCalled, Japanese, Portugese and Spanish. Something for you to think about.

[Winston]

Dr. Todd Grande talks about Incel men.

[fschmidt]

Dr. Todd Grande talks about Incel men.

Another modern moron. Why do you waste people's time by posting videos by morons?

[Winston]

Dr. Todd Grande talks about Incel men.

Another modern moron. Why do you waste people's time by posting videos by morons?

Because a lot of people out there are closed minded and dismissive like that. I just poke fun at them. They think they know everything and are super arrogant and don't consider they may be wrong. Why are so many like that?

[Winston]

Dr. Todd Grande on Incels vs. Pickup Artists.

[Winston]

Check this out. Apparently the US Secret Service put out a PDF Pamphlet about how angry Incels could be a national security threat! WTF? See the publication below from the Secret Service website.

https://www.secretservice.gov/sites/def ... hassee.pdf

One of my friends Martell Tha Cool, did a video on it.