There are no good jobs...

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Cornfed wrote:
droid wrote:Yeah but like i said even if it's some blue collar stuff or pizza place, you'll get work experience. it's not even about the money, just so you can say people have trusted you, and you may get some exercise and improve on people skills. As well as getting out of the house and stimulating your mind.
While you think you are offering good advice, and what you say may have some truth to it, you are largely just being a c**t, so why not shut up?
Wrong, Tsar needs the advice, he needs to get out of the f*king house into the real world, instead of letting his mind rot and obsess with extreme idealism and such. If I really wanted to be a c*nt, I would've said you guys are just some lazy libtards that want the guvmnt (i.e. others) to provide for you, supposedly eugenic men.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Tsar wrote:
That doesn't give a person a confidence boost. That article just showed how difficult it is to even get a job that's posted on Craigslist.
Was meant to agree with your premise.

Also, regarding applying online, I had big problems with online applications. The problem with online applications is they're actually meant as psychological evaluations. So if you bomb out on the psych eval portion by not appearing SUPER HAPPY ALL THE TIME, you're pretty much f***ed. So if you bomb out on the psych eval portion in any manner, you'll get the "no reply" and in fact your application will not even go to the store. You'll call the store up, ask if they saw your application, and they'll say they didn't. The only luck I've had with any sort of job and finding it besides government funded internships or disability agencies is with jobs with a standard paper application. Anything online application, unless you fit their specific psychological profile, your application will not even make it to the store.
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Also, one other thing I've thought of but can't confirm for sure is dumbing down your application some. Like, I've seen people apply online to like, grocery stores or whatever, and have tons of spelling errors/etc and get the job. Meanwhile I'd have perfect grammar and spelling, would capitalize things correctly, and no replies. So that might be something to think about if you're desperate.
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onethousandknives wrote:Also, one other thing I've thought of but can't confirm for sure is dumbing down your application some. Like, I've seen people apply online to like, grocery stores or whatever, and have tons of spelling errors/etc and get the job. Meanwhile I'd have perfect grammar and spelling, would capitalize things correctly, and no replies. So that might be something to think about if you're desperate.
I wouldn't recommend improper English, but I would make my resume or application look appropriate for the job. Being over qualified can keep you out of the market. I have done a lot of massaging my resume to get my foot in the door.

Droid and Rock, I agree with everything you've written. It is very good advice. Will people follow it and move forward? :D
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Ghost wrote:...
One of your best posts Ghost.
Agree 100%
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Ghost wrote: He has a degree.
My time is too valuable to read this whole thread, but if this guy has his bachelor's degree then he can teach English in South Korea, and they will even pay for his flight and help him get set up there; when I worked there my employer even reimbursed my visa and criminal background expenses once I was in country.

There really is no excuse. This guy could save $1000 USD a month working at a hakwon, then use that money to travel or start a business, or just get himself set up in another part of the U.S.
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ezinho wrote:
Ghost wrote: He has a degree.
My time is too valuable to read this whole thread, but if this guy has his bachelor's degree then he can teach English in South Korea, and they will even pay for his flight and help him get set up there; when I worked there my employer even reimbursed my visa and criminal background expenses once I was in country.

There really is no excuse. This guy could save $1000 USD a month working at a hakwon, then use that money to travel or start a business, or just get himself set up in another part of the U.S.
OK so I take it you were hit in the head by something and have been in a coma for about ten years.
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Ghost wrote:
He could be in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Argentina, or some other country where he can seek out his white bride-to-be, be working a job and saving some money, and working on building his life. Will he make a million? Of course not. But doing what he is doing - nothing - he is guaranteed to make no money, be without a wife forever, and be miserable for his entire life. I've offered to help him get a job in Eastern Europe or Russia. I could get him in contact with someone who could find him a job in Chinese cities with large EE/Russian populations. He could start having job offers within 2 or 3 f***ing days. But no, it's clearly so much better to do what he is doing.
Ghost, great post. I've been ghosting too while back in the USA. Do you teach ESL? Yes there really is no excuse not getting out and getting some job. Every dollar saved is a dollar that can be used for a better life!
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ezinho wrote:
Ghost wrote: He has a degree.
My time is too valuable to read this whole thread, but if this guy has his bachelor's degree then he can teach English in South Korea, and they will even pay for his flight and help him get set up there; when I worked there my employer even reimbursed my visa and criminal background expenses once I was in country.

There really is no excuse. This guy could save $1000 USD a month working at a hakwon, then use that money to travel or start a business, or just get himself set up in another part of the U.S.
Are you saying that someone could save $1,000 USD a month working in South Korea teaching English? What about shelter, food, utilities, medical insurance, internet, and transportation? Are some of them provided to the person as benefits of working abroad teaching English?
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Ghost wrote:Really, he says he would consider playing the lottery, going into the navy, or becoming a stripper. But he won't consider becoming a TEACHER?

So in Tsar's case, he could've had his job a long time ago. He REFUSED more than once. Yes, I'm pissed off. I take it personally. To keep asking for help, keep receiving help, and then always refusing the help...that is beyond failure.
I asked if playing the lottery was worth it in a thread. I said in the thread that my opinion is that it's not worth it to play the lottery.

I might try to go into the Navy if it came down to it (meaning I didn't have anywhere to live and lost my insurance). I'm holding off until it becomes the last possible option.

On the stripper topic it was just a discussion thread. It was more of a what if it was possible and something Millennials (like myself, since I am a Millennial) would consider.

I didn't exactly refuse help to become a teacher. The problem is I stammer so I don't think teaching is something that I'd enjoy too much because of my stammer. Would a better teacher be one that doesn't stammer or has a stammer? From which teacher would students learn better?
Stammering: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttering

I do things but I don't have a job. I receive some monthly income which when "grossed up" would be approximately $1,100 if I were earning the money through a job. So if I were to take a low paying job (most are part-time) then it would be a form of regressive tax and a reduction in my monthly finances. If I were to go abroad, then I could potentially lose everything. That's why it would be a major risk.

What about the plane ticket to get to a country like Russia, China, or South Korea? Does the school pay the cost or does the potential teacher? A one way ticket ranges from $600-$1,000 depending on the country. I couldn't buy a $600-$1,000 one-way ticket because I can't afford it.

I looked into the potential earnings from teaching English and have been reading about it. It's not something I want to do in the present but I could always change my mind in the future. http://www.internationalteflacademy.com ... ish-Abroad
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MarcosZeitola wrote:Joining the Navy may not be that bad an idea. My own father and grandfather were in the military and they always told me how much it helped them when they were younger men. How it taught them discipline and perseverence, and made them grow up. So in the back of my own mind, it's always been an option to me: if all else fails, I will join the military. Of course my circumstances have changed and right now it no longer seems like a viable option, but for you it very well might be.

You are this shy, introverted young man with a stammer living at home at the age of 25 (or 24, I forgot?) and your life does not really appear to be going anywhere. What do you have to lose, Tsar? A battleship would make for a manlier avatar then an anime character from Japan. You need to live a more active and masculine lifestyle brother. Who knows, the navy may be perfect for you. Especially since they would give you accomodations and food while you still earn money.
I'm not exactly a shy person, I'm more of a reserved person. The Navy is something I plan to try to join sometime in late 2015 or 2016 if I can't get a private sector job.
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Ghost wrote:I don't think any one has touched on this yet: it is possible for both the society and the individual to be the problem.

Western societies are certainly f***ed up beyond repair and are veritable prisons for men where opportunities are insanely limited. No sane man would deny this.

Tsar is also f***ed up and refuses to do anything to help himself.

The two are NOT mutually exclusive. I guarantee that every man (except for a few truly lucky fuckers) who has become happier abroad has had to work on getting there. No man ever made it happen by daydreaming that he is a prince.

The truth is that Tsar DOES have things he can do. First, he has time. His shame should not come from being unemployed; it should come from wasting his limited time. He could have used that time to study a language, develop a hobby, make contacts, seek out any job instead of only the higher paying jobs, try a small business from home, or tons of other things. Remember when he left for a while and came back? His big accomplishment was that he changed his avatar. He did absolutely nothing else.

I have offered on more than one occasion to help Tsar get a job in EFL teaching. This would put him on the fast track to getting in touch with women he is interested in. He has a degree and resumes can always be massaged. I offered to help him - more than once! - to get such a job so he can get started on being happier abroad. But he ignored me every time. The tragedy? His chances of making this plan work are about 100% IF HE DOES IT. But nothing. There's always an excuse. There's always some reason why he can't. Not a reason why he tried and failed, but always excuses for why he shouldn't even attempt. He fancies himself a prince but even a pauper wouldn't look up to him.

He could be in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Argentina, or some other country where he can seek out his white bride-to-be, be working a job and saving some money, and working on building his life. Will he make a million? Of course not. But doing what he is doing - nothing - he is guaranteed to make no money, be without a wife forever, and be miserable for his entire life. I've offered to help him get a job in Eastern Europe or Russia. I could get him in contact with someone who could find him a job in Chinese cities with large EE/Russian populations. He could start having job offers within 2 or 3 f***ing days. But no, it's clearly so much better to do what he is doing.

Really, he says he would consider playing the lottery, going into the navy, or becoming a stripper. But he won't consider becoming a TEACHER?

So in Tsar's case, he could've had his job a long time ago. He REFUSED more than once. Yes, I'm pissed off. I take it personally. To keep asking for help, keep receiving help, and then always refusing the help...that is beyond failure. If he was drowning at sea, he would refuse someone trying to save his life by throwing an innertube. He expects some f***ing royal navy to show up.

I can't believe this bullshit is still going on.
The way I worked on being happier abroad was that not only I made extra dollars, but I also did some research on Ciudad Juarez and also had the required documents before I set foot in Mexico.
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Tsar wrote:
ezinho wrote:
Ghost wrote: He has a degree.
My time is too valuable to read this whole thread, but if this guy has his bachelor's degree then he can teach English in South Korea, and they will even pay for his flight and help him get set up there; when I worked there my employer even reimbursed my visa and criminal background expenses once I was in country.

There really is no excuse. This guy could save $1000 USD a month working at a hakwon, then use that money to travel or start a business, or just get himself set up in another part of the U.S.
Are you saying that someone could save $1,000 USD a month working in South Korea teaching English? What about shelter, food, utilities, medical insurance, internet, and transportation? Are some of them provided to the person as benefits of working abroad teaching English?
Yes, your school will either provide you a small apartment, or in some cases they may give you a housing allowance and "key money" (like deposit money) and then you can find your own place.

You get medical insurance through the government-run healthcare system. They just take the premium out of your pay every month.

You have to buy your own food, pay for transportation and all that, but you can easily afford it on your salary. Monthly salaries start around 2.1 million South Korean won, so a little under $2000 USD a month, depending on what the exchange rate is now. I left Korea in 2012 so I'm not sure about the exchange rate now.

Check out daveseslcafe.com for more info.
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ezinho wrote:
Tsar wrote:
ezinho wrote:
Ghost wrote: He has a degree.
My time is too valuable to read this whole thread, but if this guy has his bachelor's degree then he can teach English in South Korea, and they will even pay for his flight and help him get set up there; when I worked there my employer even reimbursed my visa and criminal background expenses once I was in country.

There really is no excuse. This guy could save $1000 USD a month working at a hakwon, then use that money to travel or start a business, or just get himself set up in another part of the U.S.
Are you saying that someone could save $1,000 USD a month working in South Korea teaching English? What about shelter, food, utilities, medical insurance, internet, and transportation? Are some of them provided to the person as benefits of working abroad teaching English?
Yes, your school will either provide you a small apartment, or in some cases they may give you a housing allowance and "key money" (like deposit money) and then you can find your own place.

You get medical insurance through the government-run healthcare system. They just take the premium out of your pay every month.

You have to buy your own food, pay for transportation and all that, but you can easily afford it on your salary. Monthly salaries start around 2.1 million South Korean won, so a little under $2000 USD a month, depending on what the exchange rate is now. I left Korea in 2012 so I'm not sure about the exchange rate now.

Check out daveseslcafe.com for more info.
The exchange rate is about equal. 2.1 million South Korean won is just a little under $1,900 per month. I will consider the possibility of teaching English more than I have been. It seems that teachers in South Korea can save a lot. I'll look more into it and before the end of the year I'll put my name in with various work-abroad opportunities open to Americans.

http://thatbackpacker.com/2013/03/21/ho ... -in-korea/
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