To Women: Why Are YOU Joining *OUR* Forums??!

[EntrepreneurNet]

OMG - I've never read so much manginaism in my life!

Well you didn't have to read it then.. You weren't in the target audience. So go away.
I'm just stating what I believe: this place is deficient.

Apparently there are no female members on this site anymore (when I joined July 2012), eastern or otherwise, since all the comment's I've received are from men. A lot of other international dating forum and "PUA" (pick up artist) sites have female members...

Those are our Direct competitors whether you realize that or not... And I think Winston Wu would make more money if he allowed female members on this board...

@EntrepeneurNet

Well, that's different (eastern woman). I know we're on the same team, so I want you to know that I meant you no harm/disrespect.

No worries, None taken... Like I said: I wasn't trying to make this thread a flame war.. I'm new here, and didn't want to stir the pot too much or "Get into it" with establishd & loyal members. I knew you've never been accused of rape: I only said that cuz I wanted to see what you'd say.

I Just wanted real & honest feedback from the (nonexistent) respectable women on this forum.

[shiryu400]

Hi. I haven't posted in a while but I read other people's posts every day.

First, I have one question for the OP, what exactly CAN women contribute to this board? So far, the few women I have seen on here only try to give the same old and tired advice of "improve yourself" or "be nice to women" or "respect women and one day you'll find the one," all of which we know are just BS. Or is it that their contribution would not be necessarily ideological?

Next, I'd like to explore the idea about PUA sites being competition for this site. I do think the ideas we circulate on this site are an alternative to PUA but I don't think we're in competition with them ideologically. In fact, I have read on here that PUA CAN actually be useful, albeit not required, abroad. So HA and PUA are not altogether incompatible.

Finally, I'll say that I personally don't have a problem if women are on this forum but I do have a problem if they're here to either spout feminist ideology or to do some attention-whoring as they do out in the real world.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

"I’m really curious: WHY are you here??? "
Women come to places like this because they are attention whores. There. Explained.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

[PeterAndrewNolan]

Those are our Direct competitors whether you realize that or not... And I think Winston Wu would make more money if he allowed female members on this board...

Experience says he would lose money if he allowed lots of women posters. The men would leave.

On what basis do you believe he would make more money just because he has women posters?

I do not see PUAs like Roosh etc competing with Winston. Competing for what? Traffic? Advertisers?

If you do not believe me that bringing women into a mens space has the men leave? Allow me to cite the case of cricket in Australia. 30 years ago cricket was a predominantly male sport in viewership. 90%+ of the people who went into the ground were men....90%+ of the people who watched on TV were men.

There was a decision try and make the game more appealing to women. More one day games were played. 20.20 was invented. All because women have such short attention spans and can not appreciate the skill and tactics of the longer 5 day game. In the grounds you were no longer allowed to bring your own beer because of "violence" among the guys who got drunk...but that violence NEVER included women or children in the first place....it was 99.99% men on men violence and it was a lot of good fun...I was in PLENTY of fights myself at the cricket and it was fun to have a bit of a fight and wrestle with the english guys at the cricket. No one got hurt.

But bringing alcohol in was banned to make it "female friendly". Next they put limits on beer you could buy in the ground..then it was light beer only..then it was made expensive....all to "curb male violence and make cricket family friendly"

And what did we see happen? Our cricket team plays cricket like women for women. When the west indies were recently in Australia there STANDS WERE EMPTY and no one was watching on TV either. The game has been feminised within an inch of its life and so the men no longer attend or watch in anywhere NEAR the numbers they used to....because the MEN ARE GONE the women have left too.

What you have in Australia today is a game that was gutted by political correctness and feminism...I can not even stand to watch cricket being played today it is such a girls game.

The SAME thing happened to our football. It has become handbags at 20 paces. It is a game played by women for women now and I have no interest in watching our brand of football any more....and I have no respect for men who watch it and call it "real football" because it is not....it is girly football.

If men want a solid and sustainable revenue stream they are FAR better off to gain it from men.....because as soon as you add women to the equation on your revenue stream and you pander to the women then the men leave....and after the men leave the women leave because they were only there trying to secure a man slave in the first place.

The germans know all this. In Germany if you go to a soccer game it is 95%+ men. There are NO female commentators during games...they tried that once about 20 years ago and apparently the woman nearly started a riot by insulting a football club...she was removed from commentating and I am told no female has been allowed to commentate on the bundesleague ever since.

In Germany football is a game by men, for men. In the top league every stand is full every week. Players are paid FAR LESS than in places like England and Italy....but the performance of the German National Team over the last 40 years tells the story......Germany is the powerhouse of european soccer. They are always there or thereabouts. Spain has had a wonderful run of late and deserve their success. But you watch...the germans will be back.

Germans know and understand the nature of women and men and they do not get all confused about it....even so some german men I talk to do not like the level of feminism in Germany.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

Well then!
I’ve gotten no comments at all from HA women. So that tells me 99.9% of active users on this site are Men. How Surprising!

EntrepreneurNet,
some of the women who were recently here loudly proclaimed how "good" they were...so I asked them if they were willing to denounce women criminals and demand that women criminals were subject to the same remedy as men. NOT ONE was willing to do that....and I notice the ones I talked to mostly quietly left.

Do you really want to talk to a woman who refuses to demand women are treated as "equal before the law"?

[All_That_Is_Man]

Simple answer: women wouldn't even begin to relate to the men on these forums. After all "happier abroad" is a notion that men would be happier if they went AWAY from western women and embraced non-westernized women in foreign countries. How exactly could an American woman, or a British woman, or an Australian woman relate to that - when this site is built around the idea of getting far away from those exact women!
Like PAN said, women join(ed) this site for the sole purpose of being attention whores - and they were seemingly only welcomed by the manginas (<- who sadly still remain, but I wont publicly name any names). On a side note, American women aren't worshiped overseas like they are by desperate men here in the western world. Foreign men are aware that American women are fat, entitled skanks, so American women only have a chance of being "happier", per se, if they stay put and don't look for a mate abroad.
Women have everything they could ever want right here in the matrix, all because they were born with a vagina. They don't need to join our forums at all. AskMen dot com forums are a prime example of how women will inevitably turn a men's forum into a pussified place of ruin. Ask a simple question on those forums and your first page of responses will be from women...

[djfourmoney]

This site is called Happier Abroad not HA For MEN ONLY. Yes its focused on men because a man owns the site...

[All_That_Is_Man]

This site is called Happier Abroad not HA For MEN ONLY. Yes its focused on men because a man owns the site...

Not only did a man create this site, but that same man had an agenda for himself and fellow MEN to go overseas and discover better women - women in need of men. None of the research or agendas backing this site have anything to do with American women seeking better mates abroad. This site isn't for "MEN ONLY" but it is sure as hell implied. Know any American women who are looking for companionship, P4P, marriage, sex, dating, etc. from foreign women? Me either; simply because here in the matrix even dykes can have their cake and eat it too (look at today's black community, nuff said) without ever leaving their block. And to reiterate what I said before, foreign men think that American women are atrocious, so yeah it's very much a men's site. Women can still join though, but yeah, seriously, it's for men.

[publicduende]

Simple answer: women wouldn't even begin to relate to the men on these forums. After all "happier abroad" is a notion that men would be happier if they went AWAY from western women and embraced non-westernized women in foreign countries. How exactly could an American woman, or a British woman, or an Australian woman relate to that - when this site is built around the idea of getting far away from those exact women!
Like PAN said, women join(ed) this site for the sole purpose of being attention whores - and they were seemingly only welcomed by the manginas (<- who sadly still remain, but I wont publicly name any names). On a side note, American women aren't worshiped overseas like they are by desperate men here in the western world. Foreign men are aware that American women are fat, entitled skanks, so American women only have a chance of being "happier", per se, if they stay put and don't look for a mate abroad.
Women have everything they could ever want right here in the matrix, all because they were born with a vagina. They don't need to join our forums at all. AskMen dot com forums are a prime example of how women will inevitably turn a men's forum into a pussified place of ruin. Ask a simple question on those forums and your first page of responses will be from women...

See this is where people like you show the depths of their ignorance, on top of their insolence. A forum is all about debating. Debating, the age-old way human beings challenge their view of the world (thesis) with others (antithesis) and, if armed with some sane curiosity and intellectual honesty, end up absorbing contrasting ideas to integrate, refine, improve theirs (synthesis). Comparing and contrasting with those with different ideas is not the best way to learn, it's the only way.

What's the point of a forum where everybody repeats the same old tired stereotypes about Western/Anglo women, manginas, etc. like mantras? Where everybody feels belonging to an elite of fellow "truth seekers" who agree and takes pride in ranting against everybody and everything, without actually acting against their state of frustration and unhappiness? Where people who dare having different opinions, which happens to be backed by their own life experience and actual knowledge of society and women, are immediately labeled, dismissed and derided? Do you think the world out there, or the women who never joined this site, give half damn about your self-righteousness and the arrogance with which you dispense truths about the state of the world and women, when you've probably never left your basement in months? Many a senior poster have already addressed your approach telling you to leave the frigging keyboard alone, save some money and actually start seeing the world.

You may well be happy without any dialectics with women, or without manginas, or without anyone who doesn't embrace your paranoias to the fullest extent. Yet you're missing opportunities to reflect on yourself and the world around you. You're missing the quality of debate here. And believe me, it is entirely your loss, nobody else's.

[chaste_filipina]

Should we only focus on gender-specific roles?

Why are YOU WOMEN are HERE in the first place?

If you search and have seen one of my posts, that was my motive for putting a brave act, make an account here in happier abroad. Also, its my fault for choosing an account name so juicy that its good as "troll bait." Trollers start trolling on me....

As the admin says :

Warning: This forum contains content that is not politically correct and may offend some. But if Truth is your Passion and God, then you've come to the right place.

I said to myself, is it that bad? After a few days, all of these men who were mercilessly butchered, skinned and removed their livers, kidneys, innards, and especially their hearts, have conspired to troll me and do nothing except bash me here and there. Now I truly understand why most men flock here in happier abroad. Its mainly because of women! Don't tell me to shut the f**k up. Its partly the truth...

Even if I was on neutral grounds and the admin Winston advised me to choose "friendly topics," wherever I go, whatever topics I choose and share my thoughts and put some insight to it... These misogynists men who abhors women (as they were supposed to do) are now clearly harassing me in this forum. I don't know why. See my posts for yourself. If you don't get me, its alright. But if you do, thanks God for being a man who knows what is and how is a Man should do and should not do - to a woman, of course!

I am a Filipina. Clearly I am an Asian. I am definitely an Eastern woman. Yet why do some of these men see me as that totally obnoxious Femnazi American woman or a Filipina who makes an account because I want to scam these men here on Happier Abroad and maybe use my Vagina to f**k me and my Mouth to suck your dicks? Ah...forgive my language but the some men see me as a "whore." Why do some of you men here in Happier Abroad think like that towards me? Do I even deserve such treatment from these Neanderthal men on Middle Earth? Only those Men know, God knows why those Men did it (Or those men think, does G-O-D even exist? We are the GODS here you stupid woman! That's why Happier Abroad was created in the first place...)

About your curiosity why I stayed away and never thought twice to stay and to remain from this forum for good because of one thing: RESPECT.

The admin, Winston, may hold such pure, good intentions to help people shed light on our preconceived notions and break away from the standard norms, getting out from your shell, be enlightened with the Truth, and the interactions from this forum should be beneficial, whether you are a man or a woman, to say so in the least. But I don't want to sound judgmental nor to stereotype and categorize all of you men in a box labeled "ASSHOLES" (Mental note )

I am very much aware that Men were created to be great leaders, whether its in the home, at the workplace, in a humanitarian organization such as the Rotary Club, Gideon, etc. Moreover, Women were created to support the Men in their lives. The Woman may serve as a compass to help the Man navigate when he sail in stormy seas (e.g. when a Man reaches a crucial point in his life); as an anchor when a Man has lost its way due to the pressure of Life and the Woman may help him not to stray too far away from his Path (or what the Man must do); as a sanctuary when a Man just want to relax and unwind (e.g. the welcoming embrace of a woman gives comfort, emotional security, and a place where safety is not questioned - a hug can be simple, yet the simple act of hugging a Man you dearly love is nevertheless has a very deep meaning); as a friend when a Man feels undeniably happy and can truly be Himself with a Woman who knows His worth (e.g. The Man will put a Mask of Responsibility because Society wants that kind of man, but when a Man is with His Woman, putting on the mask and the act is no longer a concern because the Man knows he is accepted for who and what He really is - including his strengths and weakness. The Woman may complement with his weaknesses. Basically its a Win-Win situation, never a Lose-Lose situation).

Now I don't want to impose my opinion about how a Man should treat a Woman or how a Woman should treat a Man, or vice versa.
Well, if you can't trust women here in Happier Abroad because some men here are filled with suspicions, always doubting your intentions or just warmongering buffoons. That's no longer within my jurisdiction. You Men take the cake! Like I even care! I prefer chocolate ice cream because its more suitable to my tastebuds!

There you have it! Honestly, I want to know other people's opinion about spirituality and religion but who cares about what I say! Hahaha! This is not the only site which offers such profound insights on my current interest. I'm so sorry Winston...

P.S.
Please don't send me private messages just to give me a sermon or a lecture on it. I am not a wild girl who attach herself to strong men here in Happier Abroad (Filipina scammer? Whore? Slut? Bitch? What name-labelling-derogatory names do you have on your sleeves?)

Its not about WHO IS RIGHT and YOU ARE WRONG (for not agreeing with me and simply because YOU ARE A WOMAN AFTER ALL! )

Ugh! Thanks to the "men" here I am now a full-bloom woman who will stay away from all of you men out there! Whether you are straight or bisexuals!

But I'll make an exception, if you are "gay", please be my friend!

Hahaha!

Seriously, I love you girlfriend! Mwah!

[shiryu400]

Publicduende, there's nothing wrong with debate (in fact, that's what we're doing now), the problem is when women get on here and repeat the same old shaming language. The women that are attracted to this site don't have anything important to contribute. PAN mentioned above how too many women will actually ruin the site because men will leave. But we should not ban women AND we don't. They leave of their own accord, even chaste_filipina said so. The women come on here, see there's nothing here for them and they leave; nobody forces them. I haven't seen anybody here get banned just for being a woman and if that happened, it's wrong, of course. If they claim they don't get any respect, it's because they're so used to men deferring to them in real life, they've come to expect it BUT we don't do that here.

chaste_filipina, I think I get the gist of your post, I'm sorry you didn't get the RESPECT you expected but this is a man's space, we don't want to have to be politically correct just because women are gonna be on here and feel offended. As you said, the disclaimer is on the front of the page. You may be a woman who knows a man's worth, but most of us have dealt with only the opposite of that. So yeah, we may get suspicious of the women who post here.

[All_That_Is_Man]

Should we only focus on gender-specific roles?

Why are YOU WOMEN are HERE in the first place?

If you search and have seen one of my posts, that was my motive for putting a brave act, make an account here in happier abroad. Also, its my fault for choosing an account name so juicy that its good as "troll bait." Trollers start trolling on me....

As the admin says :

Warning: This forum contains content that is not politically correct and may offend some. But if Truth is your Passion and God, then you've come to the right place.

I said to myself, is it that bad? After a few days, all of these men who were mercilessly butchered, skinned and removed their livers, kidneys, innards, and especially their hearts, have conspired to troll me and do nothing except bash me here and there. Now I truly understand why most men flock here in happier abroad. Its mainly because of women! Don't tell me to shut the f**k up. Its partly the truth...

Even if I was on neutral grounds and the admin Winston advised me to choose "friendly topics," wherever I go, whatever topics I choose and share my thoughts and put some insight to it... These misogynists men who abhors women (as they were supposed to do) are now clearly harassing me in this forum. I don't know why. See my posts for yourself. If you don't get me, its alright. But if you do, thanks God for being a man who knows what is and how is a Man should do and should not do - to a woman, of course!

I am a Filipina. Clearly I am an Asian. I am definitely an Eastern woman. Yet why do some of these men see me as that totally obnoxious Femnazi American woman or a Filipina who makes an account because I want to scam these men here on Happier Abroad and maybe use my Vagina to f**k me and my Mouth to suck your dicks? Ah...forgive my language but the some men see me as a "whore." Why do some of you men here in Happier Abroad think like that towards me? Do I even deserve such treatment from these Neanderthal men on Middle Earth? Only those Men know, God knows why those Men did it (Or those men think, does G-O-D even exist? We are the GODS here you stupid woman! That's why Happier Abroad was created in the first place...)

About your curiosity why I stayed away and never thought twice to stay and to remain from this forum for good because of one thing: RESPECT.

The admin, Winston, may hold such pure, good intentions to help people shed light on our preconceived notions and break away from the standard norms, getting out from your shell, be enlightened with the Truth, and the interactions from this forum should be beneficial, whether you are a man or a woman, to say so in the least. But I don't want to sound judgmental nor to stereotype and categorize all of you men in a box labeled "ASSHOLES" (Mental note )

I am very much aware that Men were created to be great leaders, whether its in the home, at the workplace, in a humanitarian organization such as the Rotary Club, Gideon, etc. Moreover, Women were created to support the Men in their lives. The Woman may serve as a compass to help the Man navigate when he sail in stormy seas (e.g. when a Man reaches a crucial point in his life); as an anchor when a Man has lost its way due to the pressure of Life and the Woman may help him not to stray too far away from his Path (or what the Man must do); as a sanctuary when a Man just want to relax and unwind (e.g. the welcoming embrace of a woman gives comfort, emotional security, and a place where safety is not questioned - a hug can be simple, yet the simple act of hugging a Man you dearly love is nevertheless has a very deep meaning); as a friend when a Man feels undeniably happy and can truly be Himself with a Woman who knows His worth (e.g. The Man will put a Mask of Responsibility because Society wants that kind of man, but when a Man is with His Woman, putting on the mask and the act is no longer a concern because the Man knows he is accepted for who and what He really is - including his strengths and weakness. The Woman may complement with his weaknesses. Basically its a Win-Win situation, never a Lose-Lose situation).

Now I don't want to impose my opinion about how a Man should treat a Woman or how a Woman should treat a Man, or vice versa.
Well, if you can't trust women here in Happier Abroad because some men here are filled with suspicions, always doubting your intentions or just warmongering buffoons. That's no longer within my jurisdiction. You Men take the cake! Like I even care! I prefer chocolate ice cream because its more suitable to my tastebuds!

There you have it! Honestly, I want to know other people's opinion about spirituality and religion but who cares about what I say! Hahaha! This is not the only site which offers such profound insights on my current interest. I'm so sorry Winston...

P.S.
Please don't send me private messages just to give me a sermon or a lecture on it. I am not a wild girl who attach herself to strong men here in Happier Abroad (Filipina scammer? Whore? Slut? Bitch? What name-labelling-derogatory names do you have on your sleeves?)

Its not about WHO IS RIGHT and YOU ARE WRONG (for not agreeing with me and simply because YOU ARE A WOMAN AFTER ALL! )

Ugh! Thanks to the "men" here I am now a full-bloom woman who will stay away from all of you men out there! Whether you are straight or bisexuals!

But I'll make an exception, if you are "gay", please be my friend!

Hahaha!

Seriously, I love you girlfriend! Mwah!

Whatever your initial intention was when you first joined, you certainly come off as a westernized attention whore right there, especially the way you sh:t on all men because maybe one or two attacked you. And this is an example of the "good" women who join predominantly men's forums...

[EntrepreneurNet]

Jesus Christ,

What happened here while I was gone??

[EntrepreneurNet]

Really guys, we need to stop saying that: “All women are like that.â€￾ Because that simply cannot be true..

• *We we speak of such things, in absolutes, we only have one perspective on reality.. We have only one set of eyes, 2 ears, etc..
  
  * If you want to find out the TRUTH you take a sample, and that gives you an estimate.
  
  * If you want a more correct estimate you need a bigger sample. It’s as simple as that..
  
  * It’s my estimate (from personal experience & friends' testimony) that 95-97% of ALL U.S. and Canadian women are un-datable. Complete scum, so low you couldn't possibly hope to have a happy relationship with them.
  
  * BUT I have no clue what it is in Western Europe, and I can’t even begin to speculate on Asian women, because I have no sample..
  
  * Winston Wu could give probably the best estimate of anyone in this forum, because he has Plenty of samples..

But really guys, If we're going to progress as a community, we need to get "outside the box" of thinking: “All women are like my ex-wifeâ€￾ or “All women are like my ex-girlfriendâ€￾...

If you want to get more accurate than that then you need to set up a controlled study and collect data. And this applies to all aspects of life, Not just women...

Ask yourself does that make any sense?