Blaming the economy for unemployment is now taboo

[Blue Murder]

My brother has a Masters Degree and he can't even get a job at McDonald's. LOL. The U.S. is f**ked.

You see? THIS is an actual problem with the west. Everyone wants someone who is megaqualified, and can't be arsed to train anyone. They want a taxi cab driver that can explain calculus, or a waitress that has a masters in biology, or a line cook with a doctorate. What is with this unbalance? I think it's applies mainly to the western and southern parts of the US. It seems like the north/northeast still has SOME sense left and actually enjoys hiring people who fit the bill evenly.

Actually, there's the other problem of over qualification as well.

. . . What?

[Cornfed]

My brother has a Masters Degree and he can't even get a job at McDonald's. LOL. The U.S. is f**ked.

You see? THIS is an actual problem with the west. Everyone wants someone who is megaqualified, and can't be arsed to train anyone. They want a taxi cab driver that can explain calculus, or a waitress that has a masters in biology, or a line cook with a doctorate. What is with this unbalance? I think it's applies mainly to the western and southern parts of the US. It seems like the north/northeast still has SOME sense left and actually enjoys hiring people who fit the bill evenly.

Actually, there's the other problem of over qualification as well.

. . . What?

People often will decline to hire you if you are considered too educated or too smart.

[Ghost]

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[GoingAwol]

The job market is like an American woman........ Even the undesirable ones have a million applicants.

[BlackKnight]

The biggest problem I've had for jobs here in the States was the application process, especially for bigger stores, is generally a *psychological evaluation*looking for a specific type of person. Big half hour long questionnaires to determine your personality and any possible mental disorders. I filled out an application for an auto part store and it had questions like "Sometimes I feel lonely. I like shooting guns. I like playing tennis. I have lots of friends." And this is even besides the questions ostensibly related to employment, ie, "if a customer does..." And for those types of things, following up is 100% useless. Following up can be useful IF there is a traditional paper application, but if it's a centralized computer one, 100% useless.

As far as Cornfed always talks about, with scum being preferred, it does seem accurate, thinking back. I applied to a job at Radio Shack a while back, in 2011. The manager interviewing me thought I was an idiot for going in wearing dress shoes and dress pants, and said "you're wearing nicer shoes than me..." The interview ended basically, at a test of, "Tell me about this phone..." I replied back "well, I don't know much about it..." Then he said "Just tell me it has a big screen, that it's awesome, whatever. Yeah, see, you need to learn to bullshit better." And after that, the interview basically ended.

As far as other scum, I really even wonder as well whether or not even things like correct spelling and grammar on an application are counted as negatives as well. I went through my state's disability job finding agency (Aspergers diagnosis) and the guy helping me find a job, when he wrote up a resume for me, it had multiple misspellings throughout.

But anyway, things aren't very good here, yes.

No kidding, you're straight up handicap lol

[MattHanson1990]

You see? THIS is an actual problem with the west. Everyone wants someone who is megaqualified, and can't be arsed to train anyone. They want a taxi cab driver that can explain calculus, or a waitress that has a masters in biology, or a line cook with a doctorate. What is with this unbalance? I think it's applies mainly to the western and southern parts of the US. It seems like the north/northeast still has SOME sense left and actually enjoys hiring people who fit the bill evenly.

It's not so much about college degrees these days. The problem is that many of these menial jobs nowadays require prior experience. Out of all the jobs I applied for in my area, not one but two required at least two years experience. The hiring process is the main reason I gave up looking for work domestically and turned to making money online instead. Right now, I make my online income from GoAnimate grounded videos I upload to YouTube and then monetize with ads.

[MattHanson1990]

Also, has anyone noticed how companies always tell you they will call you to let you know their decision and they never do?

Or here's this one. Has anyone also gotten a job offer, accepted it, but had to go through pre-employment screening, and then the company rescinds the offer?

[Blue Murder]

It's not so much about college degrees these days. The problem is that many of these menial jobs nowadays require prior experience. Out of all the jobs I applied for in my area, not one but two required at least two years experience. The hiring process is the main reason I gave up looking for work domestically and turned to making money online instead. Right now, I make my online income from GoAnimate grounded videos I upload to YouTube and then monetize with ads.

That too. Everyone is too lazy to train someone. It's an addendum of my point. If you can't map the human genome, you should at least have over 9000 years of experience. I guess the internet is the new big man on campus. I didn't think it would expand so quickly. It's only been 40 years give or take since the internet was a thing. We're here already? A brotha can't make no money the old fashioned way?

[GoingAwol]

The problem with today's job market is nobody wants to train the younger generation. They won't hire you if you don't have any experience. How is a young man supposed to get experience if nobody gives him a chance?

[MattHanson1990]

The problem with today's job market is nobody wants to train the younger generation. They won't hire you if you don't have any experience. How is a young man supposed to get experience if nobody gives him a chance?

That's a question that's seemingly hard to answer. Part of the problem is that no one wants hire anyone who's been out of work for more than six months. The other part is that baby boomers have postponed their retirement due to the economic downturn. And many of them have taken entry level jobs.

[MattHanson1990]

I used to follow up with jobs and my experience was that it annoyed them and made them angry.

A lot of job seekers likely could've experienced exactly that. If you look at job descriptions, you'll notice that many of them say "no phone calls please".

[Ghost]

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[GoingAwol]

The problem with today's job market is nobody wants to train the younger generation. They won't hire you if you don't have any experience. How is a young man supposed to get experience if nobody gives him a chance?

That's a question that's seemingly hard to answer. Part of the problem is that no one wants hire anyone who's been out of work for more than six months. The other part is that baby boomers have postponed their retirement due to the economic downturn. And many of them have taken entry level jobs.

One could theoretically cover their lack of experience by volunteering or interning for a couple of years, but this is obviously a bad way to go for several reasons:

-it means you're giving away your work which you should be paid for
-it wastes a lot of time
-it lets people know that you're willing to f**k yourself over by working for free and gets "employers" accustomed to the idea, thus f***ing over more workers
-if you did eventually get a decent-ish paid gig, you'd still have little to no job security

This is why my "unofficial" solution to this is to fabricate a resume. Although you could possibly get in trouble for it, the stakes are probably pretty low as long as you aren't fabricating a resume for a job in which lives would be at stake if not done well.

Sign of the times that this route even needs to be considered, but there it is.

I don't see how you can get caught. I always put my brother-in-law down as a reference and say I worked for him until he stopped doing his business and got another job. It's halfway true because he did have his own business for years and then quit it when he got a job at the cable company, but I never worked for him. The point is I lied and I was never questioned about it. Hell, I don't even think think most places really look real deep into your job history anyways.

[Tsar]

You see? THIS is an actual problem with the west. Everyone wants someone who is megaqualified, and can't be arsed to train anyone. They want a taxi cab driver that can explain calculus, or a waitress that has a masters in biology, or a line cook with a doctorate. What is with this unbalance? I think it's applies mainly to the western and southern parts of the US. It seems like the north/northeast still has SOME sense left and actually enjoys hiring people who fit the bill evenly.

It's not so much about college degrees these days. The problem is that many of these menial jobs nowadays require prior experience. Out of all the jobs I applied for in my area, not one but two required at least two years experience. The hiring process is the main reason I gave up looking for work domestically and turned to making money online instead. Right now, I make my online income from GoAnimate grounded videos I upload to YouTube and then monetize with ads.

How is GoAnimate working out for you?

[MattHanson1990]

You see? THIS is an actual problem with the west. Everyone wants someone who is megaqualified, and can't be arsed to train anyone. They want a taxi cab driver that can explain calculus, or a waitress that has a masters in biology, or a line cook with a doctorate. What is with this unbalance? I think it's applies mainly to the western and southern parts of the US. It seems like the north/northeast still has SOME sense left and actually enjoys hiring people who fit the bill evenly.

It's not so much about college degrees these days. The problem is that many of these menial jobs nowadays require prior experience. Out of all the jobs I applied for in my area, not one but two required at least two years experience. The hiring process is the main reason I gave up looking for work domestically and turned to making money online instead. Right now, I make my online income from GoAnimate grounded videos I upload to YouTube and then monetize with ads.

How is GoAnimate working out for you?

It's going a lot better now than ever before. The views are going up as is the income.