MarcosZeitola wrote: ↑September 28th, 2022, 11:47 am
Outcast9428 wrote: ↑September 26th, 2022, 5:29 pm
@MrMan is far more “worthy of envy” so to speak then you are. He has a sweet, traditional Asian wife who’s a stay at home mom, has sex with him every day, and has given him several children. He is living my dream life, but I don’t talk shit about him, I have nothing but huge respect for the guy. He reminds me of my own father in many ways. He’s a good man, and he deserves the life he is living because he has earned it.
I have a slightly different opinion on @MrMan, although I do feel he's a good man at heart. MrMan is a deeply closeted homosexual. He has repeatedly stated in past posts how he is "completely incapable" of telling whether or not another man is "handsome" or "attractive", he is the "straightest man ever"... which is ridiculous; its just a casual observation, you can say Brad Pitt is a handsome fellow, it does not mean you are a fag who wants to bone him lol. In the same breathe you could say Adam Sandler is a rather unfortunate looking Jewish creature and it wouldn't make you homosexual, you'd just be a keen observer.
I leave for a while, and you, of all people, talk smack about me.
One theory is that the propensity toward homosexuality is on a scale, that some men are strongly attracted to men and others less so. I don't know if that is true, but if it is, and I am on the far end, not attracted to men at all, and you are in the middle, not full-blown gay, but find men good-looking, maybe you just can't relate to being on the non-gay end of the scale, so you put yourself in my shoes--- without understanding what it is like to be totally non-gay. You think the only way you would say that is if you were lying and you are a repressed homosexual. For some reason, being a repressed homosexual makes more sense to you personally than not finding men attractive at all. That's a better explanation.
Look, there are people who are 'face blind'--- and men who can't even tell if women are good-looking. Women can usually tell if women are good-looking, but I didn't grow up hearing that. My mom even said later that she didn't say anything about men being good-looking because she thought my dad might get jealous. The only input I remember is my mom saying she thought some Asian women were pretty, but didn't think Asian men were good-looking.
I can tell if a man is odd-looking. I would guess Danny Devito is not good-looking. Adam Sandler is too close to the range of normal for me to make that sort of a guess. The mentally retarted guy from Goonies was unattractive. I could tell that.
I occasionally heard a man say something about some other man's looks on TV and didn't think much of it. I heard a few times in Asia one man say another man was good-looking, or someone said I was. I probably considered this empty talk. I had not thought much about men not being able to tell if other men were good-looking. If someone had asked, I would have thought men were like me about this issue. I remember a guy I worked with when I was in college was told he looked like Gerard Depurdue. He did actually. But he thought the actor was bad-looking, but some women said he was good-looking. I couldn't tell. I didn't think much of it. He probably had a little more sense of men's looks than I did.
Then I read this online comment somewhere, a woman complaining that she was going on a blind date with a guy and asked a male friend if he was good-looking. He said he couldn't tell. She basically accused him of lying. I thought that was rather insensitive and short-sighted, that we men can't tell if other men are good-looking. I asked Indonesian co-workers at the dinner table (before the got rid of that grrrr.) One of them could tell. He was a musician at night, maybe the artistic type. The other guy said that was something women could tell. That was my opinion.
So I asked on this forum, and people accuse me of being gay. It makes no sense at all. If anything, men who think other men are good-looking are more likely to be gay. I knew gay men had an opinion on that. I'd heard some gay dude talking about men being good-looking.
I am not sure if you are serious about your gay accusation. I half think you may just be messing with me to push my buttons. The men who say that about other men who find homosexuality repulsive-- that they must be gay and acting not gay. Either they are messing with us, or maybe it is more likely that they have some gay tendencies themselves, think all men are that way, and think those who express disgust over the idea are 'repressed.' Revulsion at homosexuality is fairly common, and not just in western culture.
One reason I brought it up on here is I expected to find more men like myself who can't tell. I also sort of wanted to affirm that I wasn't that unusual. I don't want to go around asking everyone, but I'm guessing maybe 20% of men are like me and don't have a natural, instant sense of if a man is good-looking or not. Since I watched a documentary and read a little in the way of a general overview about what is perceived as beauty, I can guess if men are good-looking based on symmetry and whether they have big masculine jaws or others traits that or more an intellectual guess than an instant sense. I can see a woman's face and know instantly if she is attractive (in my opinion). I am more sensitive, I think, to 'masculine' traits than the average guy. Large jaws, masculine brows, or big arms arms or shoulders make a woman look unattractive to me when other men may find a woman pretty.
Not having a sense of whether males are attractive isn't that important to me. I'm not a casting director. I probably won't match my daughters up to marry without seeing their spouses before marriage like in some traditional culture centuries ago. I sometimes ask my wife if a man is good-looking on movies or TV shows just so I can figure out whether he is the lead and if he will be the woman's love interest.
When I was young, I didn't know I was good-looking. My mom told me I was about as good-looking as Courtney Cox off of Friends. This was late 20's or early 30's Courtney Cox, not when she was older and her character married Chandler. But that was my mom. My wife thought I was good-looking. I got a lot of attention from Indonesian women. it took me to my mid 20's to realize that I was good-looking, at least to Indonesians who liked white men. An American male friend told me that about 10 years ago when he'd met us before, I was good-looking enough to be a suitable match for my wife. So maybe I was a 9+ or within a point or two for looks when I was young. But he was a man, so that doesn't really count. Not knowing if I was good-looking when I was young was probably the thing that affected me most.
MrMan also stayed a virgin until the age of 30 when he met his wife for "moral reasons" and then whenever he talks about sex its kind of in a clinical, odd way, like its this chore he performs ritually to reaffirm his heterosexuality every day.
That's a work of fiction right there. First of all, I got married with my wife at 27, which was something I very consciously had to do. Mainly I just didn't pursue opportunities with females that I could have, because it was a sin to do so, along with try to keep my thought life pure, which was the struggle as a single man.
I don't know what you mean about the machanical chore stuff. I actually love sex... which I direct toward my wife not anyone else. I have written about basically trying to wear her out with lots of Os. That's not a chore to me. I wrote that it was fun. I think that's all that's on the forum about it.
He keeps count of how many times he bangs her, and always goes on about how, statistically speaking, he has sex more often than a man who is single and engages in casual sexual encounters. Very much feels like "keeping score", like he's measuring himself against other posters and reassuring himself of how straight he is.
That's not saying sex is a chore. The reason I post that is because all the talk of fornication on here, like sleeping around a lot is really desirable. For me, from a hedonistic perspective, having lots and lots of sex with a beautiful woman is appealing, and even moreso was when I was a younger man. I do that in marriage. My point is to tell the fornicators who try to sleep with lots of women, but don't really have much sex, that even from a hedonistic perspective, they are losing out.
Like I said, nothing against the guy. But I found this to be odd. Yes, he has this nice and wholesome facade as a Christian husband and a True Believer and all that but... I'm not really feeling it, you know? There's something...
off. I think others have noticed this and pointed this out in the past as well, especially when MrMan gets oddly defensive about his "inability to tell whether a male face objectively looks good or not", its such a strange hill to die on.
It's just the truth.
I brought it up because I noticed other mean seemed to be able to tell, and wanted to know if most men were like me, or if not, if it was that unusual. I was a bit surprised not to find other men who couldn't tell if other men are good-looking on this forum, because in a handful of real life conversations, there seem to be men who cannot tell either.
) regardless of sexual liberalism or not. I don't hate the UK because I'm a bitter, angry inbred mutant-looking British incel who can't get laid with semi-androgynous British ladettes (I don't touch British women anyway because I'm too much of an Anglophobe). I hate the UK because I think that Mediterranean/Latin culture is so much superior, that Latin women are so much more beautiful, and that Spanish is a superior language (well, y'all's American English is kinda okay, but British English is just plain repulsive 
). So yeah, I believe that the UK sucks because it's the UK and therefore an Anglo country (and one that is infested with feminism and misandry to boot), not because of sexual liberalism.
