Who gets the last laugh? Domestic or International American

[International Gringo]

Ive always been curious about who has the best/happier life as an American male. Is it the popular scumbag Alpha male, the domestic American who never leaves the country or is it the American male who didnt have much social success in the states but lives it up abroad in Thailand, Philippines, Brazil, etc?

Typically, if you were a successful social American male (in the top 5-10%) then your best days were in High School and College. He might of been a sports star, a bad boy (gangster,criminal or drug user) or a shit talking alpha male who got to bang a lot of sluts back in the days and got a lot of respect (or fear) from his fellow peers. However, once college is done (or high school if he was a criminal) its time to hit the rat race (or the jail industrial complex) where that American male will be working 50 to 80 hours a week. As he gets older, he doesnt have the energy to date, socialize (party) and sleep around with beautiful women like his younger days so he settles on a middle age wife/girlfriend. Most of his happiness will then come from material possessions (house, car, boats, etc) and his kids if he chooses to have a family. Many of these guys keep talking about their days in High School/College because those were the golden years for them that they are in dire need to relive. Once they hit their 30s they will no longer be able to bang young women because American society will label them a pervert.

Your International American male who travels, most likely didnt have as great a time in High school and college as the popular domestic alpha male did. He didnt have access to many women since he most likely wasnt a bad boy, criminal, popular or sports star. Most likely he was focusing on his grades and classes. Even though he might of been social and had a social personality he somehow ended up in the 60-90% of guys who didnt stand out to women because he was too friendly. They had to watch the American domestic bad boy have all the fun banging numerous sluts, being popular and showing arrogant superiority complexes. However, these Americans found a way to go overseas (usually in their 30s or older) to SE Asia or Latin America and are treated like rock stars by young hot women abroad. Their money goes much farther then it would back in the states which enables them to party like a celebrity, they are banging a different dime piece every night and are constantly requested to take pics with the locals. The good news is that they never had to changer their personality to achieve this they just had to switch environments.

Im pretty sure most of us here would agree that International Americans are living the life much better abroad than domestic Americans back home once they hit their 30s or older. My question is who do you think is living life better. Those Domestic Americans who were living life as a popular teen in High School/College or the Americans in their 30s (or above) living in Angeles City, Philippines or Pataya, Thailand.

[publicduende]

The carcerate industrial complex...hardly a playground for successful alpha males...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-3 ... te-america

[publicduende]

I think the question is ill-posited. The real "international American" isn't certainly someone who squanders his pension or savings with the Pattaya or AC bargirls. They're just losers who try to blow off their sexual steam the best (or cheapest) way they know, and will eventually wind back home more frustrated than before. I personally don't have much respect for this prototype of (American or Western) "expat".

If you though want to refer to young men who, regardless of their social/dating experience in the US, choose or are given the opportunity to move abroad, I guess a much wider statistics apply. Some of them might have been fairly happy about their past social interactions and relationships and their motives for leaving the American shore have more to do with getting a promotion, or tapping into fresher business opportunities, or simply exploring a new culture, than soothing their existential pain.

Some others might have suffered more and will probably put more emphasis on the aspect of rebuilding a healthier and less hollow relational life - something that, as we all know, rarely lives up to their often sky-high expectations.

If an anwer must be given, I would say that - in general - the expat American could well have the last laugh in the longer term, but not for the reasons you think. From what I have been reading, the US is turning into a hollowed-out, miserable and opportunity-starved wasteland, where those who are motivated to work can't even find a McJob to make ends meet (let alone have the career they deserve) and growing hordes of totally demotivated people sit back on their couches and keep sucking on the welfare tit, which is often the only barrier between their apathy and local riots or even an organised civil war.

If I was an American, I wouldn't want to live in America right now. I would take my engineering degree and IT skills and move them where they could still earn a decent (if not higher) salary and, more importantly, where I wouldn''t have to see a society in complete vertical decline every time I peek out of my office or home window.

[Banano]

If we suppose that all girls are interested in top 20% of male population then you can see that small number of lucky dudes will be very busy taking care of disproportionately large number of sluts.
Think about it, betas dont even get to sleep with women that are their 30s unless they are hideous and fat so very small number of men sleeps with most decent looking women and above in 20s and 30s

Its tough call but havent seen many successful long term expat players who keep on shagging regular girls.

For Example, Winston stopped travelling to hot spots, Ladislav plays role of a suggar daddy, Will N Dwnd lasted only couple of months, American n BKK is married to some plain Thai woman, AC/Pattaya heroes dont count, others spend a few weeks in X country and they are backs soon after(most of these guys would be better off as alpha at home)
Western alpha has a supply of quality girls 365 days a year without leaving home, no worry abt visa, scamming, kidnapping and other bs that comes with travelling through poorer countries


I would say western alpha guy has advantage over expat player

[Ghost]

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[Jester]

I do wish I could become an "alpha" thug for, say, a few days just to see what it is like, to actually know what it is like. But only to see, I would never want to be that personally.

I guess in a way, this movie was about that very topic.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100201/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBJA98nsYJ4

[International Gringo]

I would say the expats who live permanently in the Philippines (like AC) such as retired military in their early 40s are getting the last laugh. I see these guys (during my 3 month yearly residence in AC) pull girls for free at High Society, living in top notch gated communities and the fame/fortune that comes with being an American overseas. In my Fraternity years at SDSU you might have had 1 or 2% of the male population banging a couple dime pieces each month and received a lot of female attention from the coke addicted frat groupies but it was nothing like AC were multiple sex orgies are going on. The other problem these Alpha Males have in America is litigation. Any time you bang one of these American sluts they can easily turn around and call rape on you which would damage reputations and future careers

[publicduende]

I would say the expats who live permanently in the Philippines (like AC) such as retired military in their early 40s are getting the last laugh. I see these guys (during my 3 month yearly residence in AC) pull girls for free at High Society, living in top notch gated communities and the fame/fortune that comes with being an American overseas. In my Fraternity years at SDSU you might have had 1 or 2% of the male population banging a couple dime pieces each month and received a lot of female attention from the coke addicted frat groupies but it was nothing like AC were multiple sex orgies are going on. The other problem these Alpha Males have in America is litigation. Any time you bang one of these American sluts they can easily turn around and call rape on you which would damage reputations and future careers

You can have the multiple sex orgies with bargirls and AC. I have seen enough in the Philippines to know there is a galaxy of socio-sexual satisfaction beyond that. And sad that so many of you wont even try to go past the bar scene.

[Luc Furr]

I would say the expats who live permanently in the Philippines (like AC) such as retired military in their early 40s are getting the last laugh. I see these guys (during my 3 month yearly residence in AC) pull girls for free at High Society, living in top notch gated communities and the fame/fortune that comes with being an American overseas. In my Fraternity years at SDSU you might have had 1 or 2% of the male population banging a couple dime pieces each month and received a lot of female attention from the coke addicted frat groupies but it was nothing like AC were multiple sex orgies are going on. The other problem these Alpha Males have in America is litigation. Any time you bang one of these American sluts they can easily turn around and call rape on you which would damage reputations and future careers

You can have the multiple sex orgies with bargirls and AC. I have seen enough in the Philippines to know there is a galaxy of socio-sexual satisfaction beyond that. And sad that so many of you wont even try to go past the bar scene.

Internationals are laughing now.
Domestics are busy preparing for the last laugh.

What is past the bar scene? Seems to me that most people in the Philippines are users and parasites. Merry Christmas sir. Where's my money?

[newlifeinphilippines]

I would say the expats who live permanently in the Philippines (like AC) such as retired military in their early 40s are getting the last laugh. I see these guys (during my 3 month yearly residence in AC) pull girls for free at High Society, living in top notch gated communities and the fame/fortune that comes with being an American overseas. In my Fraternity years at SDSU you might have had 1 or 2% of the male population banging a couple dime pieces each month and received a lot of female attention from the coke addicted frat groupies but it was nothing like AC were multiple sex orgies are going on. The other problem these Alpha Males have in America is litigation. Any time you bang one of these American sluts they can easily turn around and call rape on you which would damage reputations and future careers

You can have the multiple sex orgies with bargirls and AC. I have seen enough in the Philippines to know there is a galaxy of socio-sexual satisfaction beyond that. And sad that so many of you wont even try to go past the bar scene.

Yeah what an empty existence and soon enough eternal torment.