Has anyone else been hurt or betrayed by female friends?

[traveller]

Well, apparently it has just happened to me today. A close and cherished high school friend of mine has just moved to the ghetto. She used to live in Chicago's west suburb of Stickney, which is a very quiet and safe suburb of Chicago, and has just moved to Chicago's River North neighborhood, which is an all-out war zone with all the flash mobs! I used to have such a great time with her in high school. She was in my Snowball club, she was a cheerleader at my high school, one highly memorable event was when she came on a Halloween field trip with my Snowball club and thought it was hilarious when I used a pumpkin to blot out my face from a cameraman taking our picture, and she and the club advisor nicknamed me "Mr. Pumpkin head" for a while.

I actually first fell in love with her when I saw a picture of her in my Freshman yearbook with another cheerleader friend walking to class. Eventually I met her in December of my Sophomore year when I was picking up paper to be recycled for my Ecology Club. And she used to be such a sweetheart in high school! But now, it's like her heart has totally frozen over and I don't know her anymore! Chicago's River North neighborhood is a horrendous, extremely bad neighborhood. Cop killers, which often make up a rather significant portion of Chicago's lethal and vicious flash mobs, prowl River North in broad daylight.

Have any other guys had similar experiences like this with ladies? Not girlfriends, but just casual (non-relationship) friends.

[HouseMD]

Well, apparently it has just happened to me today. A close and cherished high school friend of mine has just moved to the ghetto. She used to live in Chicago's west suburb of Stickney, which is a very quiet and safe suburb of Chicago, and has just moved to Chicago's River North neighborhood, which is an all-out war zone with all the flash mobs! I used to have such a great time with her in high school. She was in my Snowball club, she was a cheerleader at my high school, one highly memorable event was when she came on a Halloween field trip with my Snowball club and thought it was hilarious when I used a pumpkin to blot out my face from a cameraman taking our picture, and she and the club advisor nicknamed me "Mr. Pumpkin head" for a while.

I actually first fell in love with her when I saw a picture of her in my Freshman yearbook with another cheerleader friend walking to class. Eventually I met her in December of my Sophomore year when I was picking up paper to be recycled for my Ecology Club. And she used to be such a sweetheart in high school! But now, it's like her heart has totally frozen over and I don't know her anymore! Chicago's River North neighborhood is a horrendous, extremely bad neighborhood. Cop killers, which often make up a rather significant portion of Chicago's lethal and vicious flash mobs, prowl River North in broad daylight.

Have any other guys had similar experiences like this with ladies? Not girlfriends, but just casual (non-relationship) friends.

A friend can't hurt or betray you- they owe you nothing.

I had a girl hurt me like this once though, we were engaged and she left me to party hard and do all the drugs. Felt like the person Ioved was dead. So I know that feel bro.

[traveller]

A friend can't hurt or betray you- they owe you nothing.

I had a girl hurt me like this once though, we were engaged and she left me to party hard and do all the drugs. Felt like the person Ioved was dead. So I know that feel bro.

Even though casual friends owe me nothing, it still hurt to see her move to the ghetto. She used to be such a sweetie in high school. I used to visit her at her locker when school was letting out. I had fun with her in my Snowball club. I was even friends with her on Facebook, too. But then I don't know what happened to her heart, but just a couple days ago she picked up and moved from west suburban Stickney (a safe, quiet suburb, even safe enough to be out in the middle of the night) straight to River North (a war zone of a bad neighborhood where not only do shootings occur in broad daylight, but even SWAT officers have been gunned down by those AK-47 wielding flash mobs).

It hurt me so badly that I posted on my wall, tagging her in it, that River North is a very bad neighborhood and that even cop killers prowl River North in broad daylight, and unfriended her. Hours later, I found out that she actually responded by blocking me outright! First I unfriended her, and then she blocked me. This can only mean one thing; that her heart has allready turned evil, and that she turned a full 180 degrees from the sweetie she used to be in high school. Even a few more people have unfriended me on Facebook over the last couple of days. My guess is, they support and condone her decision to move to the ghetto and hook up with one of those lethal, vicious felons that get their half millions annually and their luxury sports vehicles through crime and illegal drugs! I even wonder how many of them might even follow in her footsteps and move to the ghetto and hook up with a violent felon (keep in mind, the vast majority of my Facebook friends are female).

I'd say it's the equivilant of an old, sentimental tree that, on the outside, looks sturdy, healthy, and full of vigor. And then one day there's a downburst, a branch splits from the trunk, and the split reveals massive, extensive rotting throughout the entire inside of the trunk, even the main trunk, that has allready critically compromised the integrity of the tree to the point where the whole tree could come crashing down even in the next big wind that comes along. Or in this case personally, it can even be like that same tree, when the downburst hits, splits apart and both halves come crashing to the ground, and the split reveals almost total rot/decomposition of the entire inside of the trunk (leaving maybe 2 inches of wood around the outer circumference holding the tree up) for no less than a full 15 feet of the tree's (former) total height.

[Adama]

Sounds like a stupid woman. Either an idiotic liberal idealist or a ghetto-wannabe. It probably will not work out for the best. Keep your eyes peeled for news reports with her name in it.

[Ghost]

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[Adama]

Really only one time, and it wasn't exactly a friendship. It was me basically trying to convince a girl who I thought was nice and traditional to be with me and not become a slut. Guess how that turned out. I don't believe in real male/female friendships anymore, thank goodness.

I dont think male/female friendships are really possible. Usually one or the other really wants a sexual relationship, but I also believe that most women have no genuine interest in friendship with men. When you're friends with a woman, it is likely that you are just happenstance friends. You just happen to be in the same social circle or you frequent the same places (live in the same building or members of the same organization). Most women just want to be friends with other women. Your friendship with women is likely more a matter of convenience or circumstance.

If your female friend searches you out to hang out without any expectations, like they do with each other, and this isnt a forced scenario (mutual friends, work, volunteer organizations or shared residence) then maybe you have a real female friend.

When a woman says she has platonic male friends and she's attractive, it's really cause she's an idiot. They know men want to have sex with them, but because they aren't attracted to those men, they think everything is fine. Meanwhile the guy is torturing himself.

[HouseMD]

I mean, you literally judged someone for where they moved to with no other context whatsoever. Not surprised people blocked and unfriended you on Facebook. For all you know she's doing outreach work there or whatever.

I've got a lot of friends who have lived in dangerous parts of cities. Generally, they do it because they want to be closer to the city and can only afford to live in the ghetto, not because they want to become a part of ghetto culture. Precisely zero of them ended up stuck there or trying the lifestyle- it was just a temporary stepping stone. You've completely extrapolated this girl's entire future because she moved to a bad part of town, it's silly.

And thugs don't make millions or drive luxury cars lol. The average drug dealer makes less than minimum wage. The guys making the millions are the processors and distributors way up the chain, pretty much all of which live out of country, and precisely zero of which live in the ghetto. The leader of a given gang might make a decent sum, but he's got thousands of street level guys working underneath him, many of which make as little as nothing to be a part of the gang.

[Adama]

I mean, you literally judged someone for where they moved to with no other context whatsoever. Not surprised people blocked and unfriended you on Facebook. For all you know she's doing outreach work there or whatever.

I've got a lot of friends who have lived in dangerous parts of cities. Generally, they do it because they want to be closer to the city and can only afford to live in the ghetto, not because they want to become a part of ghetto culture. Precisely zero of them ended up stuck there or trying the lifestyle- it was just a temporary stepping stone. You've completely extrapolated this girl's entire future because she moved to a bad part of town, it's silly.

And thugs don't make millions or drive luxury cars lol. The average drug dealer makes less than minimum wage. The guys making the millions are the processors and distributors way up the chain, pretty much all of which live out of country, and precisely zero of which live in the ghetto. The leader of a given gang might make a decent sum, but he's got thousands of street level guys working underneath him, many of which make as little as nothing to be a part of the gang.

That's a good point. Though, yikes.

[HouseMD]

Really only one time, and it wasn't exactly a friendship. It was me basically trying to convince a girl who I thought was nice and traditional to be with me and not become a slut. Guess how that turned out. I don't believe in real male/female friendships anymore, thank goodness.

I dont think male/female friendships are really possible. Usually one or the other really wants a sexual relationship, but I also believe that most women have no genuine interest in friendship with men. When you're friends with a woman, it is likely that you are just happenstance friends. You just happen to be in the same social circle or you frequent the same places (live in the same building or members of the same organization). Most women just want to be friends with other women. Your friendship with women is likely more a matter of convenience or circumstance.

If your female friend searches you out to hang out without any expectations, like they do with each other, and this isnt a forced scenario (mutual friends, work, volunteer organizations or shared residence) then maybe you have a real female friend.

When a woman says she has platonic male friends and she's attractive, it's really cause she's an idiot. They know men want to have sex with them, but because they aren't attracted to those men, they think everything is fine. Meanwhile the guy is torturing himself.

How old are you? I've got very many female friends that I'd trust my life with, personally. We've all known each other since college, and they're all married or dating the same guys for the past decade or so- if there were any attraction between any of us back in the day, it has long since faded to familiarity. And we hang out quite frequently, as social people tend to do. Initially there is probably some degree of attraction on the part of one party or another, but after that, it can go either way. Attraction doesn't last forever, and is pretty easy to put a lid on if you're in a relationship.

[Adama]

I could definitely be wrong based on your experience.

[HouseMD]

I could definitely be wrong based on your experience.

I feel like it's more of an age thing-as you get older your friendships tend to be more genuine, with both sexes.

[traveller]

I mean, you literally judged someone for where they moved to with no other context whatsoever. Not surprised people blocked and unfriended you on Facebook. For all you know she's doing outreach work there or whatever.

There is but one reason, and one reason only that any woman would move from a quiet suburb into a war zone like Chicago's River North area! Because she wants to hook up with a man that gets his $350,000+ a year, his luxury vehicle, and all else, through crime and illegal drugs! For all I know, she's about to marry a hardened cop killer.

I've got a lot of friends who have lived in dangerous parts of cities. Generally, they do it because they want to be closer to the city and can only afford to live in the ghetto, not because they want to become a part of ghetto culture. Precisely zero of them ended up stuck there or trying the lifestyle- it was just a temporary stepping stone. You've completely extrapolated this girl's entire future because she moved to a bad part of town, it's silly.

Same as above.

And thugs don't make millions or drive luxury cars lol. The average drug dealer makes less than minimum wage. The guys making the millions are the processors and distributors way up the chain, pretty much all of which live out of country, and precisely zero of which live in the ghetto. The leader of a given gang might make a decent sum, but he's got thousands of street level guys working underneath him, many of which make as little as nothing to be a part of the gang.

Thugs, especially flash mob guys, most certainly do make millions and drive luxury cars, if they are vicious enough. It only take as few as 3 or 4 bank robberies/heists and/or about maybe ten to fifteen or so burglaries to make someone a millionaire. And thugs not only drive luxury vehicles, they drive stolen luxury vehicles! Also, these aren't gangs that are prowling Chicago's downtown and lakefront areas. These are flash mobs. And flash mob people keep all their loot to themselves. I think you better read my post titled "Typical first date scenario in Chicago, Il part 2" in the Anti-American Woman rants forum.

[HouseMD]

I mean, you literally judged someone for where they moved to with no other context whatsoever. Not surprised people blocked and unfriended you on Facebook. For all you know she's doing outreach work there or whatever.

There is but one reason, and one reason only that any woman would move from a quiet suburb into a war zone like Chicago's River North area! Because she wants to hook up with a man that gets his $350,000+ a year, his luxury vehicle, and all else, through crime and illegal drugs! For all I know, she's about to marry a hardened cop killer.

I've got a lot of friends who have lived in dangerous parts of cities. Generally, they do it because they want to be closer to the city and can only afford to live in the ghetto, not because they want to become a part of ghetto culture. Precisely zero of them ended up stuck there or trying the lifestyle- it was just a temporary stepping stone. You've completely extrapolated this girl's entire future because she moved to a bad part of town, it's silly.

Same as above.

And thugs don't make millions or drive luxury cars lol. The average drug dealer makes less than minimum wage. The guys making the millions are the processors and distributors way up the chain, pretty much all of which live out of country, and precisely zero of which live in the ghetto. The leader of a given gang might make a decent sum, but he's got thousands of street level guys working underneath him, many of which make as little as nothing to be a part of the gang.

Thugs, especially flash mob guys, most certainly do make millions and drive luxury cars, if they are vicious enough. It only take as few as 3 or 4 bank robberies/heists and/or about maybe ten to fifteen or so burglaries to make someone a millionaire. And thugs not only drive luxury vehicles, they drive stolen luxury vehicles! Also, these aren't gangs that are prowling Chicago's downtown and lakefront areas. These are flash mobs. And flash mob people keep all their loot to themselves. I think you better read my post titled "Typical first date scenario in Chicago, Il part 2" in the Anti-American Woman rants forum.

Please, provide any legitimate period of these supposed lifestyles. It doesn't happen. Bank robberies only net roughly $7,500, on average, per the last year data was available ($45,000,000 total over 6,000 robberies). The average drug dealer makes less than minimum wage after the collapse of crack, heroin, and marijuana prices. And the largest flash robbery to ever occur in U.S. history accounted for a mere $20,000 in clothing by 16 people- even sold at half price, that's less than a $1,000 take per person. Flash robberies are rare to begin with, with not a single national news worthy one occurring in Chicago in the last nearly two years. You clearly have some bizarre, media influenced view of the criminal lifestyle- spend some time in the ghetto yourself and you'll quickly learn how wrong you are.

[traveller]

I mean, you literally judged someone for where they moved to with no other context whatsoever. Not surprised people blocked and unfriended you on Facebook. For all you know she's doing outreach work there or whatever.

There is but one reason, and one reason only that any woman would move from a quiet suburb into a war zone like Chicago's River North area! Because she wants to hook up with a man that gets his $350,000+ a year, his luxury vehicle, and all else, through crime and illegal drugs! For all I know, she's about to marry a hardened cop killer.

I've got a lot of friends who have lived in dangerous parts of cities. Generally, they do it because they want to be closer to the city and can only afford to live in the ghetto, not because they want to become a part of ghetto culture. Precisely zero of them ended up stuck there or trying the lifestyle- it was just a temporary stepping stone. You've completely extrapolated this girl's entire future because she moved to a bad part of town, it's silly.

Same as above.

And thugs don't make millions or drive luxury cars lol. The average drug dealer makes less than minimum wage. The guys making the millions are the processors and distributors way up the chain, pretty much all of which live out of country, and precisely zero of which live in the ghetto. The leader of a given gang might make a decent sum, but he's got thousands of street level guys working underneath him, many of which make as little as nothing to be a part of the gang.

Thugs, especially flash mob guys, most certainly do make millions and drive luxury cars, if they are vicious enough. It only take as few as 3 or 4 bank robberies/heists and/or about maybe ten to fifteen or so burglaries to make someone a millionaire. And thugs not only drive luxury vehicles, they drive stolen luxury vehicles! Also, these aren't gangs that are prowling Chicago's downtown and lakefront areas. These are flash mobs. And flash mob people keep all their loot to themselves. I think you better read my post titled "Typical first date scenario in Chicago, Il part 2" in the Anti-American Woman rants forum.

Please, provide any legitimate period of these supposed lifestyles. It doesn't happen. Bank robberies only net roughly $7,500, on average, per the last year data was available ($45,000,000 total over 6,000 robberies). The average drug dealer makes less than minimum wage after the collapse of crack, heroin, and marijuana prices. And the largest flash robbery to ever occur in U.S. history accounted for a mere $20,000 in clothing by 16 people- even sold at half price, that's less than a $1,000 take per person. Flash robberies are rare to begin with, with not a single national news worthy one occurring in Chicago in the last nearly two years. You clearly have some bizarre, media influenced view of the criminal lifestyle- spend some time in the ghetto yourself and you'll quickly learn how wrong you are.

Those flash mobs have MURDERED news broadcasters in Chicago! Those flash mobs have FIREBOMBED, with Molotov Cocktails, news vans and media vehicles in Chicago! That is why you don't hear news about all these lethal and vicious flash mobs in Chicago today. Chicago is allready WORSE than Detroit!

[HouseMD]

I mean, you literally judged someone for where they moved to with no other context whatsoever. Not surprised people blocked and unfriended you on Facebook. For all you know she's doing outreach work there or whatever.

There is but one reason, and one reason only that any woman would move from a quiet suburb into a war zone like Chicago's River North area! Because she wants to hook up with a man that gets his $350,000+ a year, his luxury vehicle, and all else, through crime and illegal drugs! For all I know, she's about to marry a hardened cop killer.

I've got a lot of friends who have lived in dangerous parts of cities. Generally, they do it because they want to be closer to the city and can only afford to live in the ghetto, not because they want to become a part of ghetto culture. Precisely zero of them ended up stuck there or trying the lifestyle- it was just a temporary stepping stone. You've completely extrapolated this girl's entire future because she moved to a bad part of town, it's silly.

Same as above.

And thugs don't make millions or drive luxury cars lol. The average drug dealer makes less than minimum wage. The guys making the millions are the processors and distributors way up the chain, pretty much all of which live out of country, and precisely zero of which live in the ghetto. The leader of a given gang might make a decent sum, but he's got thousands of street level guys working underneath him, many of which make as little as nothing to be a part of the gang.

Thugs, especially flash mob guys, most certainly do make millions and drive luxury cars, if they are vicious enough. It only take as few as 3 or 4 bank robberies/heists and/or about maybe ten to fifteen or so burglaries to make someone a millionaire. And thugs not only drive luxury vehicles, they drive stolen luxury vehicles! Also, these aren't gangs that are prowling Chicago's downtown and lakefront areas. These are flash mobs. And flash mob people keep all their loot to themselves. I think you better read my post titled "Typical first date scenario in Chicago, Il part 2" in the Anti-American Woman rants forum.

Please, provide any legitimate period of these supposed lifestyles. It doesn't happen. Bank robberies only net roughly $7,500, on average, per the last year data was available ($45,000,000 total over 6,000 robberies). The average drug dealer makes less than minimum wage after the collapse of crack, heroin, and marijuana prices. And the largest flash robbery to ever occur in U.S. history accounted for a mere $20,000 in clothing by 16 people- even sold at half price, that's less than a $1,000 take per person. Flash robberies are rare to begin with, with not a single national news worthy one occurring in Chicago in the last nearly two years. You clearly have some bizarre, media influenced view of the criminal lifestyle- spend some time in the ghetto yourself and you'll quickly learn how wrong you are.

Those flash mobs have MURDERED news broadcasters in Chicago! Those flash mobs have FIREBOMBED, with Molotov Cocktails, news vans and media vehicles in Chicago! That is why you don't hear news about all these lethal and vicious flash mobs in Chicago today. Chicago is allready WORSE than Detroit!

Please provide links. I require proof.