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What toxic masculinity really is

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Fellas!!!
Im here to share some of my wisdom with you all about what real masculinity is and what toxic masculinity is....
This seems to be something confusing to some of the betas on this forum
Feminists rabbit on about toxic masculinity and about the patriarcy
They are marxist whores who want to feminize all men and make them weak like women so they can be controlled!!!
They want men to be docile tools used to gather recourses....
There are some real alpha bros on this forum!!!
People like this fella @WilliamSmith and this guy seems alpha as f**k as well @E Irizarry R&B Singer
These guys are real pussyologists :lol:
Other than these 2 fellas Im the only other alpha.
Alpha masculity is not toxic masculinity!!!
Alpha masculinity is strength and is what is natural!!
An alpha wolf in the wild would not be stopping to hold the door open for the females
It would be wanting to mount them instead and f***ing their brains out!!!
Consent and manners are all that seperate alpha men from the alpha wolf!!
Alpha maculinity is natural and women and their feminised beta male slaves are trying to destroy natural alpha masculinity!!!
Beta masculinity is weakness and servitude to femicunt women
They are traiters to masculinity and the lowest dregs of maledom
Ppl like @Cornfed who is a beta larping as an alpha he spends too much time writing crap about vax lemmings to be a true alpha
Celebrating ppl dying is not surprising coming from a scientifically illitererate flat earther :roll:
But this shows hes just a hateful beta
Ppl like @Outcast9428 who are sexual marxists and fear any competition from studs who dominate the market like a big business
This fella wants a traditionalist prison world where you are forced into marriage if you like it or not!!!
Alpha studs would be tied to steaks for the crime of doing what is natural and banging women!!
And finally that self hating little faggot @Mercer who is beta coward who mentioned me in a blue pill cuckhold posers thread and didnt have the balls to leave it up!!!
These guys are all beta males who are jealous of pussypounding alphas!!!
Thats what toxic masculinity is!!!
Thats what women have a natural aversion to and that is why none of these betas ever get laid!!
Yet feminist women and sjws created this beta mentality and made beta men their thralls like succubusses
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What is with this idea that a lot of men have nowadays that learning to become a douchebag represents some kind of accomplishment just because you’re sleeping with more women then anybody else? Yeah, evil actions have some instant benefits, newsflash at 11:00. The truth is though, you took the easy way out. Why do you think you are entitled to our respect and admiration? Why does every douchebag out there seem to think they have earned people’s respect just because you got what you wanted through unethical means? It’s like a drug lord demanding people respect him for his wealth because he “had the balls to break the law.” No dude, you’re not going to get respect for having slept with however many women you’ve slept with. I don’t care if you are telling the truth or not because I wouldn’t respect it either way.

@MrMan is far more “worthy of envy” so to speak then you are. He has a sweet, traditional Asian wife who’s a stay at home mom, has sex with him every day, and has given him several children. He is living my dream life, but I don’t talk shit about him, I have nothing but huge respect for the guy. He reminds me of my own father in many ways. He’s a good man, and he deserves the life he is living because he has earned it.

A man who is rich because he built a thriving business from the ground up while treating his employees like family is worthy of much more respect then a criminal who successfully robbed a bank and got away with it and is now demanding that people believe there is some kind of merit to successfully robbing banks and then using master/slave morality type arguments to say anyone who doesn’t respect him for successfully robbing banks “adheres to slave morality whereas I am an ubermensch who is above these petty moral rules!”

Nope, you get no respect and you never will.
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Re: What toxic masculinity really is

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MarcosZeitola wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 11:47 am
Outcast9428 wrote:
September 26th, 2022, 5:29 pm
@MrMan is far more “worthy of envy” so to speak then you are. He has a sweet, traditional Asian wife who’s a stay at home mom, has sex with him every day, and has given him several children. He is living my dream life, but I don’t talk shit about him, I have nothing but huge respect for the guy. He reminds me of my own father in many ways. He’s a good man, and he deserves the life he is living because he has earned it.
I have a slightly different opinion on @MrMan, although I do feel he's a good man at heart. MrMan is a deeply closeted homosexual. He has repeatedly stated in past posts how he is "completely incapable" of telling whether or not another man is "handsome" or "attractive", he is the "straightest man ever"... which is ridiculous; its just a casual observation, you can say Brad Pitt is a handsome fellow, it does not mean you are a fag who wants to bone him lol. In the same breathe you could say Adam Sandler is a rather unfortunate looking Jewish creature and it wouldn't make you homosexual, you'd just be a keen observer.

MrMan also stayed a virgin until the age of 30 when he met his wife for "moral reasons" and then whenever he talks about sex its kind of in a clinical, odd way, like its this chore he performs ritually to reaffirm his heterosexuality every day. He keeps count of how many times he bangs her, and always goes on about how, statistically speaking, he has sex more often than a man who is single and engages in casual sexual encounters. Very much feels like "keeping score", like he's measuring himself against other posters and reassuring himself of how straight he is.

Like I said, nothing against the guy. But I found this to be odd. Yes, he has this nice and wholesome facade as a Christian husband and a True Believer and all that but... I'm not really feeling it, you know? There's something... off. I think others have noticed this and pointed this out in the past as well, especially when MrMan gets oddly defensive about his "inability to tell whether a male face objectively looks good or not", its such a strange hill to die on. :lol:
I can't tell if a man is handsome either. I can tell that there's nothing wrong with him that makes him ugly, but I can't tell if a man is truly good looking. How is that ridiculous? The reason we're able to rate certain girls a 7 or an 8 or a 6 is because of how strong of a feeling we get when looking at them. When looking at guys, there's no feeling at all. So how can one tell if a man is attractive or not when you get no feeling? I can tell if a man is repulsive to look at, and I can logically measure some things like whether he's overweight or not. But that's about as far as it goes.

I do the same thing as MrMan does because I'm obsessed with numbers and data in all areas of life. Its not just the number of times I've had sex, I keep data and precise numbers on an incredible variety of things, especially when it comes to historical information. That's a sign that he might be autistic, not that he's gay. Also, he recites those numbers because of his passion for the traditional way of life. To prove to people that its a better way of life then pursuing casual encounters.

He wasn't a virgin until 30, he was a virgin until 25.

If that is y'alls evidence for him being closeted gay, then that is extremely flimsy evidence. Actually even "flimsy" is too generous. 80% of guys I've met in life show more signs of being gay then he does.

I have never felt that there's anything off about him. He seems like a typical, high sex drive traditionalist. Him and my father are very similar and give off a very similar vibe to me, MrMan is just a bit more open about the details then my dad is.
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Mercer wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 11:00 am
I always knew that @CaptainSkelebob was a bluepilled cuck. He even uses feminist language like "toxic masculinity".
I always knew that @Mercer was a beta male skirt wearing little fag. He likes sucking cock. :lol:
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Outcast9428 wrote:
September 26th, 2022, 5:29 pm
What is with this idea that a lot of men have nowadays that learning to become a douchebag represents some kind of accomplishment just because you’re sleeping with more women then anybody else? Yeah, evil actions have some instant benefits, newsflash at 11:00. The truth is though, you took the easy way out. Why do you think you are entitled to our respect and admiration? Why does every douchebag out there seem to think they have earned people’s respect just because you got what you wanted through unethical means? It’s like a drug lord demanding people respect him for his wealth because he “had the balls to break the law.” No dude, you’re not going to get respect for having slept with however many women you’ve slept with. I don’t care if you are telling the truth or not because I wouldn’t respect it either way.

@MrMan is far more “worthy of envy” so to speak then you are. He has a sweet, traditional Asian wife who’s a stay at home mom, has sex with him every day, and has given him several children. He is living my dream life, but I don’t talk shit about him, I have nothing but huge respect for the guy. He reminds me of my own father in many ways. He’s a good man, and he deserves the life he is living because he has earned it.

A man who is rich because he built a thriving business from the ground up while treating his employees like family is worthy of much more respect then a criminal who successfully robbed a bank and got away with it and is now demanding that people believe there is some kind of merit to successfully robbing banks and then using master/slave morality type arguments to say anyone who doesn’t respect him for successfully robbing banks “adheres to slave morality whereas I am an ubermensch who is above these petty moral rules!”

Nope, you get no respect and you never will.
The easy way out??? What are you droning on about now??
There is a big difference between me and a drug dealer fella! I didnt hurt anyone to get where I am today!
I just bended the rules a little to ensure my financial success.
That isnt something to be reviled it is something which deserves praise
It shows Im a badass alpha who gets what he wants even if it means bending the rules a little
Who the f**k is MrMan??? Is he really someone to idolize???
Sounds like a fag from what that other fella said :lol: :lol: :lol:
Grasping ur primal instincts by the balls and pounding hot women isnt something to be ashamed of!!
Neither is celebration of it! Im just sharing what I enjoy doing and what I enjoy doing is knocking the back out of anything with a p***y
Thats what true alpha masculinity looks like
You and other betas hate this kind of masculinity because ur not able to easily bang women
Easier to get the government to force women to sleep with betas than them actually working for it
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Outcast9428 wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 12:34 pm
MarcosZeitola wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 11:47 am
Outcast9428 wrote:
September 26th, 2022, 5:29 pm
@MrMan is far more “worthy of envy” so to speak then you are. He has a sweet, traditional Asian wife who’s a stay at home mom, has sex with him every day, and has given him several children. He is living my dream life, but I don’t talk shit about him, I have nothing but huge respect for the guy. He reminds me of my own father in many ways. He’s a good man, and he deserves the life he is living because he has earned it.
I have a slightly different opinion on @MrMan, although I do feel he's a good man at heart. MrMan is a deeply closeted homosexual. He has repeatedly stated in past posts how he is "completely incapable" of telling whether or not another man is "handsome" or "attractive", he is the "straightest man ever"... which is ridiculous; its just a casual observation, you can say Brad Pitt is a handsome fellow, it does not mean you are a fag who wants to bone him lol. In the same breathe you could say Adam Sandler is a rather unfortunate looking Jewish creature and it wouldn't make you homosexual, you'd just be a keen observer.

MrMan also stayed a virgin until the age of 30 when he met his wife for "moral reasons" and then whenever he talks about sex its kind of in a clinical, odd way, like its this chore he performs ritually to reaffirm his heterosexuality every day. He keeps count of how many times he bangs her, and always goes on about how, statistically speaking, he has sex more often than a man who is single and engages in casual sexual encounters. Very much feels like "keeping score", like he's measuring himself against other posters and reassuring himself of how straight he is.

Like I said, nothing against the guy. But I found this to be odd. Yes, he has this nice and wholesome facade as a Christian husband and a True Believer and all that but... I'm not really feeling it, you know? There's something... off. I think others have noticed this and pointed this out in the past as well, especially when MrMan gets oddly defensive about his "inability to tell whether a male face objectively looks good or not", its such a strange hill to die on. :lol:
I can't tell if a man is handsome either. I can tell that there's nothing wrong with him that makes him ugly, but I can't tell if a man is truly good looking. How is that ridiculous? The reason we're able to rate certain girls a 7 or an 8 or a 6 is because of how strong of a feeling we get when looking at them. When looking at guys, there's no feeling at all. So how can one tell if a man is attractive or not when you get no feeling? I can tell if a man is repulsive to look at, and I can logically measure some things like whether he's overweight or not. But that's about as far as it goes.

I do the same thing as MrMan does because I'm obsessed with numbers and data in all areas of life. Its not just the number of times I've had sex, I keep data and precise numbers on an incredible variety of things, especially when it comes to historical information. That's a sign that he might be autistic, not that he's gay. Also, he recites those numbers because of his passion for the traditional way of life. To prove to people that its a better way of life then pursuing casual encounters.

He wasn't a virgin until 30, he was a virgin until 25.

If that is y'alls evidence for him being closeted gay, then that is extremely flimsy evidence. Actually even "flimsy" is too generous. 80% of guys I've met in life show more signs of being gay then he does.

I have never felt that there's anything off about him. He seems like a typical, high sex drive traditionalist. Him and my father are very similar and give off a very similar vibe to me, MrMan is just a bit more open about the details then my dad is.
Being attracted to men is a surefire way to know if a fella is gay or not...
Thats how Ive always understood it to work
I can say 100% that I never looked at another fella and had a 2nd thought about whether or not hes handsome :lol:
Have you @MarcosZeitola??
I cant say too much about this mrman because I dont think I seen him on here
But he sounds like a beta massiah LOL
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CaptainSkelebob wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 2:04 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
September 26th, 2022, 5:29 pm
What is with this idea that a lot of men have nowadays that learning to become a douchebag represents some kind of accomplishment just because you’re sleeping with more women then anybody else? Yeah, evil actions have some instant benefits, newsflash at 11:00. The truth is though, you took the easy way out. Why do you think you are entitled to our respect and admiration? Why does every douchebag out there seem to think they have earned people’s respect just because you got what you wanted through unethical means? It’s like a drug lord demanding people respect him for his wealth because he “had the balls to break the law.” No dude, you’re not going to get respect for having slept with however many women you’ve slept with. I don’t care if you are telling the truth or not because I wouldn’t respect it either way.

@MrMan is far more “worthy of envy” so to speak then you are. He has a sweet, traditional Asian wife who’s a stay at home mom, has sex with him every day, and has given him several children. He is living my dream life, but I don’t talk shit about him, I have nothing but huge respect for the guy. He reminds me of my own father in many ways. He’s a good man, and he deserves the life he is living because he has earned it.

A man who is rich because he built a thriving business from the ground up while treating his employees like family is worthy of much more respect then a criminal who successfully robbed a bank and got away with it and is now demanding that people believe there is some kind of merit to successfully robbing banks and then using master/slave morality type arguments to say anyone who doesn’t respect him for successfully robbing banks “adheres to slave morality whereas I am an ubermensch who is above these petty moral rules!”

Nope, you get no respect and you never will.
The easy way out??? What are you droning on about now??
There is a big difference between me and a drug dealer fella! I didnt hurt anyone to get where I am today!
I just bended the rules a little to ensure my financial success.
That isnt something to be reviled it is something which deserves praise
It shows Im a badass alpha who gets what he wants even if it means bending the rules a little
Who the f**k is MrMan??? Is he really someone to idolize???
Sounds like a fag from what that other fella said :lol: :lol: :lol:
Grasping ur primal instincts by the balls and pounding hot women isnt something to be ashamed of!!
Neither is celebration of it! Im just sharing what I enjoy doing and what I enjoy doing is knocking the back out of anything with a p***y
Thats what true alpha masculinity looks like
You and other betas hate this kind of masculinity because ur not able to easily bang women
Easier to get the government to force women to sleep with betas than them actually working for it
You are hurting people, that’s not badass, what you’re describing is the same mentality that criminals have. Truthfully there isn’t much that separates sexual degenerates from criminals.

Primal instincts are degenerate and should be suppressed. That’s the whole point of civilization so that we won’t behave like a bunch of apes anymore.
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Outcast9428 wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 2:39 pm
CaptainSkelebob wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 2:04 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
September 26th, 2022, 5:29 pm
What is with this idea that a lot of men have nowadays that learning to become a douchebag represents some kind of accomplishment just because you’re sleeping with more women then anybody else? Yeah, evil actions have some instant benefits, newsflash at 11:00. The truth is though, you took the easy way out. Why do you think you are entitled to our respect and admiration? Why does every douchebag out there seem to think they have earned people’s respect just because you got what you wanted through unethical means? It’s like a drug lord demanding people respect him for his wealth because he “had the balls to break the law.” No dude, you’re not going to get respect for having slept with however many women you’ve slept with. I don’t care if you are telling the truth or not because I wouldn’t respect it either way.

@MrMan is far more “worthy of envy” so to speak then you are. He has a sweet, traditional Asian wife who’s a stay at home mom, has sex with him every day, and has given him several children. He is living my dream life, but I don’t talk shit about him, I have nothing but huge respect for the guy. He reminds me of my own father in many ways. He’s a good man, and he deserves the life he is living because he has earned it.

A man who is rich because he built a thriving business from the ground up while treating his employees like family is worthy of much more respect then a criminal who successfully robbed a bank and got away with it and is now demanding that people believe there is some kind of merit to successfully robbing banks and then using master/slave morality type arguments to say anyone who doesn’t respect him for successfully robbing banks “adheres to slave morality whereas I am an ubermensch who is above these petty moral rules!”

Nope, you get no respect and you never will.
The easy way out??? What are you droning on about now??
There is a big difference between me and a drug dealer fella! I didnt hurt anyone to get where I am today!
I just bended the rules a little to ensure my financial success.
That isnt something to be reviled it is something which deserves praise
It shows Im a badass alpha who gets what he wants even if it means bending the rules a little
Who the f**k is MrMan??? Is he really someone to idolize???
Sounds like a fag from what that other fella said :lol: :lol: :lol:
Grasping ur primal instincts by the balls and pounding hot women isnt something to be ashamed of!!
Neither is celebration of it! Im just sharing what I enjoy doing and what I enjoy doing is knocking the back out of anything with a p***y
Thats what true alpha masculinity looks like
You and other betas hate this kind of masculinity because ur not able to easily bang women
Easier to get the government to force women to sleep with betas than them actually working for it
You are hurting people, that’s not badass, what you’re describing is the same mentality that criminals have. Truthfully there isn’t much that separates sexual degenerates from criminals.

Primal instincts are degenerate and should be suppressed. That’s the whole point of civilization so that we won’t behave like a bunch of apes anymore.
Who am I hurting???
The women I slept with all gave consent and enjoyed the time they spent with me
The only person who seems to give a crap is you
Why??
Primal instincts are natural and should be embraced
We never lost them, we just got smarter
Thats evolution for you.
If you believe we dont behave like apes then ur nieve
They are like animals
thats human nature right there
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Outcast9428 wrote:
September 26th, 2022, 5:29 pm
What is with this idea that a lot of men have nowadays that learning to become a douchebag represents some kind of accomplishment just because you’re sleeping with more women then anybody else? Yeah, evil actions have some instant benefits, newsflash at 11:00. The truth is though, you took the easy way out. Why do you think you are entitled to our respect and admiration? Why does every douchebag out there seem to think they have earned people’s respect just because you got what you wanted through unethical means? It’s like a drug lord demanding people respect him for his wealth because he “had the balls to break the law.” No dude, you’re not going to get respect for having slept with however many women you’ve slept with. I don’t care if you are telling the truth or not because I wouldn’t respect it either way.
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Speaking for myself, I am not inclined to want to have sex with a lot of women because I think anyone would respect it or earn me admiration at all, it's frankly because of being something along the lines of sex maniac... Not an actual sexual addict, because I don't start having withdrawal convulsions and foaming at the mouth or hallucinating if I go on a brief dry spell (sure don't like it though, which is why I always want to be banging at least 2 women at a time even if one is Queen of the Hill and the other is just a nice "friends-with-benefits" partner on the side!!) or compulsively have sex with women I don't even like and need to check into a sex-addicts rehab clinic or any of that drama, but... yeah, it's safe to say I am somewhere on the borderland of sexual addiction, and obsession with women and the female orgasm and all that. :D
That's an interesting side topic, but for this discussion, just pointing out I wasn't telling other men they should get as many women as possible, I don't give a !@#$ what they do, even though I do try to encourage incels they should believe in themselves and go learn about women, and point out that me and a lot of other guys who study women, sexuality, and read seduction/PUA stuff do in fact learn !@#$loads of useful knowhow to upgrade our skills with women, and it's not all "scams", but that doesn't mean they'd have to use it to get a lot of women if they don't want to.

The whole alpha males and primal masculinity stuff I do advocate for from a philosophical POV is a different subject (even though it's no surprise that more masculine aggressive men amazingly enough tend to want to bang lots of hot women, compared with low-t wussies who'd rather spend all the time playing massively multiplayer online RPGs or whatever and join the religious nuts and carpet-munching feminists alike in scolding the rest of us for being sex maniacs, LOL). But I advocate for the masculinity stuff even if the men have a gentler and more civilized take on masculinity than the more aggressive types, because a society where people have gotten so f***ing pussed out and perverted there's actually confusion about what the hell a woman is has gone seriously off the f***ing deep-end into perversion.
I'd never have given a shit before because I'd have a live-and-let-live philosophy and not have a bullying mentality toward them even if they're not doing themselves (or heterosexual women!) any favors by acting like whiny manginas, but now look what's happened: Sissy men are turning into fuckin' homos in droves nowadays and talking about trans-maxxing or whatever and there's pedophiles in the streets wearing rainbow clown wigs exposing their genitalia to 5 year old boys and !@#$ at "Pride" rallies (homo pride, I mean, not the badass Japanese MMA tournament), and even the hetero men aren't men enough to give these globohomo-pushing bastard "LBTQ" a good smashing and put a stop to this epidemic of pedophilia, so it's a total trainwreck in a world where men act like men.

Back to the happier subject of banging a lot of women though: In my own case it's also got absolutely nothing to do with impressing other people or competing with other guys about #s, though I admit I am impressed @E Irizarry R&B Singer has bagged 700+ women. And Jack Nicholson with 2,000, wow, not to mention mind-benders like Errol Flynn at 10,000 and Wilt Chamberlain with 20,000, I can hardly wrap my mind around the Chamberlain #s and guessed he must have gone to a lot of orgies, which are not my thing. :lol:
Our man here @CaptainSkelebob on the other hand is way ahead of me but said he's lost count after the first 100, but I'll try to keep count after I reach my first 100, but am so far behind these other guys right now I'll spare you the details until I'm man enough to catch up and have at least hit the modest 100 count. :lol:

On the ethical side of the thing: Where I personally feel you miss the mark is in assuming that people who have a lot of sex with a lot of women who are looking for action with a man to begin with are scoring with these women via inherently unethical means: That is just not true, and the religious neurosis about sex makes societies less healthy, not more, making the men including the infamous clergy horrendously more like to turn into faggots or do perverted shit like having sex with animals when their religious bullshit turns them into f***ed up sissies and pervs who are such a bunch of pussies they're terrified of women's sexuality and scared to give the women what they want: A good healthy vigorous banging. :D
A lot of PUAs and ladies men of various sorts aren't all resorting to any kind of trickery or mindgames with women either:
Skelebob said it earlier with his comment about how "p***y practically throws itself at you" for some men if they get confident in figuring out a routine that works for them, and in any area with a decent sized female population (so almost any city with 1,000,000 population or even less), there's more single women available and actively interested in sex there than any one man has time for. There isn't anything wrong with most of them either, even if they're obviously not the same women that someone looking for a "tradwife" or whatever would want.

Also, I love Asian women (I'd probably be infamous for WMAF if I didn't practically worship black women, LOL) and also respect their cultures like you, but you're delusional about how they supposedly don't want to have sex or supposedly have to be tricked into it with unethical behavior or promised a relationship, which is just flat-out untrue and so many Asian women are neglected and sex-starved that's one of the reasons why it's easy for both Asian and white ladies' men to clean up with them there. And I've heard other guys too but don't know as much about it, but that Jamaican sex addict whose book I just started reading proves black alpha males who know what they're doing can get Japanese and other Asian women in great quantities as well.

Just sayin'.
And from what @Lucas88 and our other resident Latina experts say I'm pretty damn sure they're even more sexual and promiscuous than Asian women, even though as far as I know the Latinos don't neglect them as much as a lot of Asian men unfortunately tend to neglect their own chicks, so comparatively more Asian women end up sex-starved and dreaming about romance + getting balled by Hugh Jackman look-alikes or whoever. :)
If you're serious about "taking the red pill," read thoroughly researched work by an unbiased "American intellectual soldier of our age" to learn what controlled media doesn't want you to see 8) : https://www.unz.com/page/american-pravda-series/
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CaptainSkelebob wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 2:04 pm
The easy way out??? What are you droning on about now??
There is a big difference between me and a drug dealer fella! I didnt hurt anyone to get where I am today!
I just bended the rules a little to ensure my financial success.
That isnt something to be reviled it is something which deserves praise
It shows Im a badass alpha who gets what he wants even if it means bending the rules a little
Who the f**k is MrMan??? Is he really someone to idolize???
Sounds like a fag from what that other fella said :lol: :lol: :lol:
Grasping ur primal instincts by the balls and pounding hot women isnt something to be ashamed of!!
Neither is celebration of it! Im just sharing what I enjoy doing and what I enjoy doing is knocking the back out of anything with a p***y
Thats what true alpha masculinity looks like
You and other betas hate this kind of masculinity because ur not able to easily bang women
Easier to get the government to force women to sleep with betas than them actually working for it
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
!@#$ I am laughing so damn hard right now reading these words of truth I feel like I'm about to piss myself, so it's lucky I do 1000's of those "kegel" flex exercises regularly as part of my noble quest to be able to flex my pelvic floor muscles like a he-man (also part of the secret to "male multiples" I might add).
If you're serious about "taking the red pill," read thoroughly researched work by an unbiased "American intellectual soldier of our age" to learn what controlled media doesn't want you to see 8) : https://www.unz.com/page/american-pravda-series/
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WilliamSmith wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 2:56 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
September 26th, 2022, 5:29 pm
What is with this idea that a lot of men have nowadays that learning to become a douchebag represents some kind of accomplishment just because you’re sleeping with more women then anybody else? Yeah, evil actions have some instant benefits, newsflash at 11:00. The truth is though, you took the easy way out. Why do you think you are entitled to our respect and admiration? Why does every douchebag out there seem to think they have earned people’s respect just because you got what you wanted through unethical means? It’s like a drug lord demanding people respect him for his wealth because he “had the balls to break the law.” No dude, you’re not going to get respect for having slept with however many women you’ve slept with. I don’t care if you are telling the truth or not because I wouldn’t respect it either way.
@Outcast9428
Speaking for myself, I am not inclined to want to have sex with a lot of women because I think anyone would respect it or earn me admiration at all, it's frankly because of being something along the lines of sex maniac... Not an actual sexual addict, because I don't start having withdrawal convulsions and foaming at the mouth or hallucinating if I go on a brief dry spell (sure don't like it though, which is why I always want to be banging at least 2 women at a time even if one is Queen of the Hill and the other is just a nice "friends-with-benefits" partner on the side!!) or compulsively have sex with women I don't even like and need to check into a sex-addicts rehab clinic or any of that drama, but... yeah, it's safe to say I am somewhere on the borderland of sexual addiction, and obsession with women and the female orgasm and all that. :D
That's an interesting side topic, but for this discussion, just pointing out I wasn't telling other men they should get as many women as possible, I don't give a !@#$ what they do, even though I do try to encourage incels they should believe in themselves and go learn about women, and point out that me and a lot of other guys who study women, sexuality, and read seduction/PUA stuff do in fact learn !@#$loads of useful knowhow to upgrade our skills with women, and it's not all "scams", but that doesn't mean they'd have to use it to get a lot of women if they don't want to.

The whole alpha males and primal masculinity stuff I do advocate for from a philosophical POV is a different subject (even though it's no surprise that more masculine aggressive men amazingly enough tend to want to bang lots of hot women, compared with low-t wussies who'd rather spend all the time playing massively multiplayer online RPGs or whatever and join the religious nuts and carpet-munching feminists alike in scolding the rest of us for being sex maniacs, LOL). But I advocate for the masculinity stuff even if the men have a gentler and more civilized take on masculinity than the more aggressive types, because a society where people have gotten so f***ing pussed out and perverted there's actually confusion about what the hell a woman is has gone seriously off the f***ing deep-end into perversion.
I'd never have given a shit before because I'd have a live-and-let-live philosophy and not have a bullying mentality toward them even if they're not doing themselves (or heterosexual women!) any favors by acting like whiny manginas, but now look what's happened: Sissy men are turning into fuckin' homos in droves nowadays and talking about trans-maxxing or whatever and there's pedophiles in the streets wearing rainbow clown wigs exposing their genitalia to 5 year old boys and !@#$ at "Pride" rallies (homo pride, I mean, not the badass Japanese MMA tournament), and even the hetero men aren't men enough to give these globohomo-pushing bastard "LBTQ" a good smashing and put a stop to this epidemic of pedophilia, so it's a total trainwreck in a world where men act like men.

Back to the happier subject of banging a lot of women though: In my own case it's also got absolutely nothing to do with impressing other people or competing with other guys about #s, though I admit I am impressed @E Irizarry R&B Singer has bagged 700+ women. And Jack Nicholson with 2,000, wow, not to mention mind-benders like Errol Flynn at 10,000 and Wilt Chamberlain with 20,000, I can hardly wrap my mind around the Chamberlain #s and guessed he must have gone to a lot of orgies, which are not my thing. :lol:
Our man here @CaptainSkelebob on the other hand is way ahead of me but said he's lost count after the first 100, but I'll try to keep count after I reach my first 100, but am so far behind these other guys right now I'll spare you the details until I'm man enough to catch up and have at least hit the modest 100 count. :lol:

On the ethical side of the thing: Where I personally feel you miss the mark is in assuming that people who have a lot of sex with a lot of women who are looking for action with a man to begin with are scoring with these women via inherently unethical means: That is just not true, and the religious neurosis about sex makes societies less healthy, not more, making the men including the infamous clergy horrendously more like to turn into faggots or do perverted shit like having sex with animals when their religious bullshit turns them into f***ed up sissies and pervs who are such a bunch of pussies they're terrified of women's sexuality and scared to give the women what they want: A good healthy vigorous banging. :D
A lot of PUAs and ladies men of various sorts aren't all resorting to any kind of trickery or mindgames with women either:
Skelebob said it earlier with his comment about how "p***y practically throws itself at you" for some men if they get confident in figuring out a routine that works for them, and in any area with a decent sized female population (so almost any city with 1,000,000 population or even less), there's more single women available and actively interested in sex there than any one man has time for. There isn't anything wrong with most of them either, even if they're obviously not the same women that someone looking for a "tradwife" or whatever would want.

Also, I love Asian women (I'd probably be infamous for WMAF if I didn't practically worship black women, LOL) and also respect their cultures like you, but you're delusional about how they supposedly don't want to have sex or supposedly have to be tricked into it with unethical behavior or promised a relationship, which is just flat-out untrue and so many Asian women are neglected and sex-starved that's one of the reasons why it's easy for both Asian and white ladies' men to clean up with them there. And I've heard other guys too but don't know as much about it, but that Jamaican sex addict whose book I just started reading proves black alpha males who know what they're doing can get Japanese and other Asian women in great quantities as well.

Just sayin'.
And from what @Lucas88 and our other resident Latina experts say I'm pretty damn sure they're even more sexual and promiscuous than Asian women, even though as far as I know the Latinos don't neglect them as much as a lot of Asian men unfortunately tend to neglect their own chicks, so comparatively more Asian women end up sex-starved and dreaming about romance + getting balled by Hugh Jackman look-alikes or whoever. :)
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Good stuff!!!
Very well put WilliamSmith and hilarious
There is some unknown evil associated with banging women that @Outcast9428 has failed to clarify....
Other than what he decides is morally acceptable...
Thats what his whole beef with me was about in the first place
In my opinion I think hes just a jealous beta
A marxist of the sexual market who fears competition from bad ass alphas!!
Banging women is my passion!! I just absolutely love it!
I dont see why enjoying banging women makes a man a degenerate???
Its just doing what is natural
If these betas dont like doing what is natural as a man they could always identify as a woman instead :lol: :lol:
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Re: What toxic masculinity really is

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CaptainSkelebob wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 2:13 pm
Being attracted to men is a surefire way to know if a fella is gay or not...
Thats how Ive always understood it to work
I can say 100% that I never looked at another fella and had a 2nd thought about whether or not hes handsome :lol:
Have you @MarcosZeitola??
I cant say too much about this mrman because I dont think I seen him on here
But he sounds like a beta massiah LOL
I don't know about @MrMan but personally very much doubt he's a faggot, but as far as I know that's right about how homos work: How the f**k homos get themselves into this f***ing bizarre perverted condition to begin with to where they'd want to stick it up another man's bacteria infested rectum I can't say, and it's a mystery to me how another man can possibly get this f***ed up, but pretty sure "attraction" to another man is definitely a pretty damn suspicious sign he might just be a faggot. :wink:

As for whether a 100% hetero man thinks some other guy is objectively handsome or not:
I think I have a pretty good idea what most women would consider a handsome man (though their tastes vary) and I know plenty about what men do that makes them internally attractive to women (the whole lineup of alpha male traits, confidence, "outcome independence" aka not giving a !@#$ about what other people think of them, etc).
Being able to take a guess I think most women would find Sean Connery or Gary Strydom or Mel Gibson handsome vs actually being attracted to these 3 alpha male gents is another story. :lol:
Whether the world chooses to believe me or not, I'm giving you all my word of honor I'm not even slightly a faggot, but I'd guess those three would be considered handsome to the majority of women, I but don't have a clue what the experience of actually feeling attraction to a man feels like, and am proud of whatever it is in my genes makes me devoid of any such perversions.

Guessing what men you think women would find handsome is one thing, but if modern men push the line over into talking about how they themselves think a guy is "hot" (I've heard some modern day lib betas talking about this on youtube while claiming to be straight) that's another can of worms: Sounds suspiciously like what a fag would think and say to me.

All I can say is thank the f-ing gods I'm not a goddamn homo. I'm homophobic to the nines and damn proud of it. If I were a betting man, my money is on MrMan being in our camp on that one and being genuinely straight and homophobic, but I'll let him speak for himself here.

By the way: If you think we're homophobic (which I sure as hell am, and proud of it), you should see some Jamaicans. Many of the alpha males there put lesser alpha to shame on masculinity, and are often so uber-homophobic in some of the rougher areas that they might turn another man into a fuckin' human torch just on suspicion he was a faggot, so I think you could say they're even more homophobic than me, even though I agree with them that homophobia should stay damned illegal.
If you're serious about "taking the red pill," read thoroughly researched work by an unbiased "American intellectual soldier of our age" to learn what controlled media doesn't want you to see 8) : https://www.unz.com/page/american-pravda-series/
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Re: What toxic masculinity really is

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CaptainSkelebob wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 3:21 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Good stuff!!!
Very well put WilliamSmith and hilarious
There is some unknown evil associated with banging women that @Outcast9428 has failed to clarify....
Other than what he decides is morally acceptable...
Thats what his whole beef with me was about in the first place
In my opinion I think hes just a jealous beta
A marxist of the sexual market who fears competition from bad ass alphas!!
Banging women is my passion!! I just absolutely love it!
I dont see why enjoying banging women makes a man a degenerate???
Its just doing what is natural
If these betas dont like doing what is natural as a man they could always identify as a woman instead :lol: :lol:
I think @Outcast9428 has his heart's in the right place and he's trying to be protective (hey, I'm also angry about homosexual pedophiles being allowed to after innocent little children too ,and want to put a stop to that outrage, so Outcast and I have some kind of common ground on some things), but I can't help agreeing here about him seeing "some unknown evil associated with banging women that @Outcast9428 has failed to clarify...."

He's got some highly specific idealized notions about having a zillion rules, some of which I cannot agree on. I've been trying to argue that women love getting their brains screwed out and if anything those of us who actually have the fire in us to give the ladies what they want is healthy for society so the women don't turn into neurotic sex-starved screwballs with mental and physical problems when they're not getting enough dick, and that giving the women what they want is not some form of "degeneracy" tearing down a healthy society, but I can't get through to him on it, so I guess I'll just have to go on banging women and not worrying about it. After all, true heroism and masculinity require we go driving forward at full speed doing what we know is the right thing regardless of whether we're opposed by others, and following our own code, even if some tradpill betas don't understand the wholesome and valuable thing we're doing by giving the women a good healthy screwing. :lol:

In another thread he even was yelling at us that giving a woman with a big ass and nice solid spanking was supposedly "degeneracy," because it was a simulated "act of violence" against women that was supposedly going to cause women to lose their marbles and get on autopilot to undermine and destroy all that is holy.
I tried to explain that the girls just like getting their big butts spanked and it gets them excited and turned on and makes them squeal, and they describe it sending a tingling sensation down into their pussies that excites them and gets them horny as hell. As I'm sure you, Lucas88, and many others here are already well aware, women also love getting their big asses spanked when you're giving them a good pounding from behind doggystyle, but he also tried to say that doing it doggy was in itself "mildly degenerate," LOL.
Like hell it is, I say, but that's fine, he can sleep on a cold stone floor to atone for original sin (or maybe do a slow, romantic and gentle lovemaking session with one Asian women at a time) while I get the big girls on all fours and give them the good hard pounding from behind they love so much while I spank their asses and get a nice good grip on their long hair (which they also like).
If you're serious about "taking the red pill," read thoroughly researched work by an unbiased "American intellectual soldier of our age" to learn what controlled media doesn't want you to see 8) : https://www.unz.com/page/american-pravda-series/
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Re: What toxic masculinity really is

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WilliamSmith wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 2:56 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
September 26th, 2022, 5:29 pm
What is with this idea that a lot of men have nowadays that learning to become a douchebag represents some kind of accomplishment just because you’re sleeping with more women then anybody else? Yeah, evil actions have some instant benefits, newsflash at 11:00. The truth is though, you took the easy way out. Why do you think you are entitled to our respect and admiration? Why does every douchebag out there seem to think they have earned people’s respect just because you got what you wanted through unethical means? It’s like a drug lord demanding people respect him for his wealth because he “had the balls to break the law.” No dude, you’re not going to get respect for having slept with however many women you’ve slept with. I don’t care if you are telling the truth or not because I wouldn’t respect it either way.
@Outcast9428
Speaking for myself, I am not inclined to want to have sex with a lot of women because I think anyone would respect it or earn me admiration at all, it's frankly because of being something along the lines of sex maniac... Not an actual sexual addict, because I don't start having withdrawal convulsions and foaming at the mouth or hallucinating if I go on a brief dry spell (sure don't like it though, which is why I always want to be banging at least 2 women at a time even if one is Queen of the Hill and the other is just a nice "friends-with-benefits" partner on the side!!) or compulsively have sex with women I don't even like and need to check into a sex-addicts rehab clinic or any of that drama, but... yeah, it's safe to say I am somewhere on the borderland of sexual addiction, and obsession with women and the female orgasm and all that. :D
That's an interesting side topic, but for this discussion, just pointing out I wasn't telling other men they should get as many women as possible, I don't give a !@#$ what they do, even though I do try to encourage incels they should believe in themselves and go learn about women, and point out that me and a lot of other guys who study women, sexuality, and read seduction/PUA stuff do in fact learn !@#$loads of useful knowhow to upgrade our skills with women, and it's not all "scams", but that doesn't mean they'd have to use it to get a lot of women if they don't want to.

The whole alpha males and primal masculinity stuff I do advocate for from a philosophical POV is a different subject (even though it's no surprise that more masculine aggressive men amazingly enough tend to want to bang lots of hot women, compared with low-t wussies who'd rather spend all the time playing massively multiplayer online RPGs or whatever and join the religious nuts and carpet-munching feminists alike in scolding the rest of us for being sex maniacs, LOL). But I advocate for the masculinity stuff even if the men have a gentler and more civilized take on masculinity than the more aggressive types, because a society where people have gotten so f***ing pussed out and perverted there's actually confusion about what the hell a woman is has gone seriously off the f***ing deep-end into perversion.
I'd never have given a shit before because I'd have a live-and-let-live philosophy and not have a bullying mentality toward them even if they're not doing themselves (or heterosexual women!) any favors by acting like whiny manginas, but now look what's happened: Sissy men are turning into fuckin' homos in droves nowadays and talking about trans-maxxing or whatever and there's pedophiles in the streets wearing rainbow clown wigs exposing their genitalia to 5 year old boys and !@#$ at "Pride" rallies (homo pride, I mean, not the badass Japanese MMA tournament), and even the hetero men aren't men enough to give these globohomo-pushing bastard "LBTQ" a good smashing and put a stop to this epidemic of pedophilia, so it's a total trainwreck in a world where men act like men.

Back to the happier subject of banging a lot of women though: In my own case it's also got absolutely nothing to do with impressing other people or competing with other guys about #s, though I admit I am impressed @E Irizarry R&B Singer has bagged 700+ women. And Jack Nicholson with 2,000, wow, not to mention mind-benders like Errol Flynn at 10,000 and Wilt Chamberlain with 20,000, I can hardly wrap my mind around the Chamberlain #s and guessed he must have gone to a lot of orgies, which are not my thing. :lol:
Our man here @CaptainSkelebob on the other hand is way ahead of me but said he's lost count after the first 100, but I'll try to keep count after I reach my first 100, but am so far behind these other guys right now I'll spare you the details until I'm man enough to catch up and have at least hit the modest 100 count. :lol:

On the ethical side of the thing: Where I personally feel you miss the mark is in assuming that people who have a lot of sex with a lot of women who are looking for action with a man to begin with are scoring with these women via inherently unethical means: That is just not true, and the religious neurosis about sex makes societies less healthy, not more, making the men including the infamous clergy horrendously more like to turn into faggots or do perverted shit like having sex with animals when their religious bullshit turns them into f***ed up sissies and pervs who are such a bunch of pussies they're terrified of women's sexuality and scared to give the women what they want: A good healthy vigorous banging. :D
A lot of PUAs and ladies men of various sorts aren't all resorting to any kind of trickery or mindgames with women either:
Skelebob said it earlier with his comment about how "p***y practically throws itself at you" for some men if they get confident in figuring out a routine that works for them, and in any area with a decent sized female population (so almost any city with 1,000,000 population or even less), there's more single women available and actively interested in sex there than any one man has time for. There isn't anything wrong with most of them either, even if they're obviously not the same women that someone looking for a "tradwife" or whatever would want.

Also, I love Asian women (I'd probably be infamous for WMAF if I didn't practically worship black women, LOL) and also respect their cultures like you, but you're delusional about how they supposedly don't want to have sex or supposedly have to be tricked into it with unethical behavior or promised a relationship, which is just flat-out untrue and so many Asian women are neglected and sex-starved that's one of the reasons why it's easy for both Asian and white ladies' men to clean up with them there. And I've heard other guys too but don't know as much about it, but that Jamaican sex addict whose book I just started reading proves black alpha males who know what they're doing can get Japanese and other Asian women in great quantities as well.

Just sayin'.
And from what @Lucas88 and our other resident Latina experts say I'm pretty damn sure they're even more sexual and promiscuous than Asian women, even though as far as I know the Latinos don't neglect them as much as a lot of Asian men unfortunately tend to neglect their own chicks, so comparatively more Asian women end up sex-starved and dreaming about romance + getting balled by Hugh Jackman look-alikes or whoever. :)
The way I see it, excessive machismo and faggotry and true effeminacy are two sides of the same coin. I’m gonna sound like a “both sides” fag here for a moment but honestly both of them are bad and come with their own problems. Effeminate men are perverts who have a lot of bizarre and creepy fetishes and don’t have what it takes to build a civilization because you need testosterone in order to have passion and ambition. Macho men are too aggressive and will plague your civilization with crime and general dysfunction because they are too selfish. They think being aggressive is a virtue and that anyone who wants to live a peaceful life is “a beta faggot.”

Dude, I’m just as horny as you are… My sex drive is really, really high. I’ve had sex for three hours straight before, I’ve had times (not consistent by any means) where I came, maintained my erection, and came again like 10 minutes later. Sexual frustration makes me really irritable and grumpy. In high school, I masturbated on average, six times a day. I don’t do that anymore but the point is, I also have a really really high sexual appetite. You and Lucas keep on using your libido as an excuse and it’s not. My father had a high sex drive (according to my mom), MrMan has a high sex drive, my ex girlfriend has an extremely high sex drive, and I have a really high sex drive too.

You guys lack discipline and foresight is what it is. You aren’t able to see the consequences of your actions because you aren’t directly seeing them. You are interpreting other men’s self control as low testosterone when it’s just a high level of commitment to moral principles.

You keep saying I’m delusional about Asian girls yet every time I walk outside and see how they behave, I’m proven right. I’m not gonna believe the word of a random guy on the internet over what I’ve seen with my own two eyes my entire life and what statistical surveys confirm to be true. I mean when it really comes down to it, many times y’all implicitly admit that I am right. I mean I get it not all Asian girls are like I describe them to be but it is definitely a very strong pattern. And many PUA types I’ve read about online really struggle with Asia because the tactics that worked in America don’t transfer over there the way it transfers over in Western Europe, Latin America, and even Eastern Europe to a lesser extent.
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Mercer wrote:
September 28th, 2022, 5:29 pm
There's not a single alpha male in this thread, by the way. The only man on this site who has provided pictures of himself with women is Winston. You rest of the posters here are larping faggots who get no women. No one who actually gets women has enough time to post giant walls of text about being an alpha male online. Not to mention even if you do get women it's not even a skill, it's just based off genetics (luck) anyway so it's not an accomplishment. You're also a bluepilled faggot if you base your self worth around whether women like you or not since real alphas knows what shallow creatures they are.
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