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Re: Bots & A.I. On The Forum.

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Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 8:03 am
One thing that grinds my gears on this forum is the amount of f***ing bots that try to make accounts and then post shit. They're so frustrating. I didn't log in for a few days and when I signed back in I had almost 30 notifications from bots wanting approval. @Winston and @fschmidt should be able to relate to how frustrating this is lol.

Anyway, speaking of which it has recently been brought to my attention that member @josephty2 is a bot. Apparently from what I've been told his posts don't make any sense at all and seem more like spam. I've tagged Josephty2 here so he has a chance to defend himself if he is human :lol:

Does anyone else have anything to add about this or evidence to support that he is actually a bot? If he is his account should be deleted.

@Lucas88
@MarcosZeitola
@publicduende
@Yohan
@galii
@MrMan
@WanderingProtagonist
@Natural_Born_Cynic
@kangarunner
@gsjackson

Apologies to anyone not included. Obviously anyone is entitled to a say.
I'm not a bot. You just don't like or understand what I'm posting. Or you ignore me basically.

Who are you, Pixel--Dude, you're calling me out. Is it my reply to Dan cilley? Please be honest. I mostly reply to

MarcosZeitola
galii
MrMan
WanderingProtagonist
Natural_Born_Cynic
Winston

I don't usually reply to other users. Perhaps reply in other threads by quotation of my posts and I would clarify for you. If you don't think I'm human I'll take that as an insult.

I am aware of other users idk paloaltoguy came up in one of the recent posts. You think I'm one of the older users? What evidence do you have to justify that?

I think I remind you of a former ex girlfriend of yours. I think. I'm not sure how. Obviously I'm a dude irl so idk. I'm not gonna send a link of my photo. I mean I've heard of president names as usernames before. But seriously?

Edit: it took me 20 minutes to understand. When a professor assigned readings I realize some students skim 5% of the required texts. I often provide links. I realize no one clicks on them. You can't assume you know. I get it, professors are terrible at making syllabus and grading properly. Professors who grade a certain way to reward reading entire texts typically either get denied tenure or get fired for something silly, though it's correlates, so they may be denied tenure for lack of research funds or fired for something like sexual misconduct.
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Then again, some people go all the way (cognitive dissonance/fallacy of incomplete evidence).

Eat dates.

The problem is iphones.

You definitely picked the wrong country.
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Re: Bots & A.I. On The Forum.

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josephty2 wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 8:07 am
Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 8:03 am
One thing that grinds my gears on this forum is the amount of f***ing bots that try to make accounts and then post shit. They're so frustrating. I didn't log in for a few days and when I signed back in I had almost 30 notifications from bots wanting approval. @Winston and @fschmidt should be able to relate to how frustrating this is lol.

Anyway, speaking of which it has recently been brought to my attention that member @josephty2 is a bot. Apparently from what I've been told his posts don't make any sense at all and seem more like spam. I've tagged Josephty2 here so he has a chance to defend himself if he is human :lol:

Does anyone else have anything to add about this or evidence to support that he is actually a bot? If he is his account should be deleted.

@Lucas88
@MarcosZeitola
@publicduende
@Yohan
@galii
@MrMan
@WanderingProtagonist
@Natural_Born_Cynic
@kangarunner
@gsjackson

Apologies to anyone not included. Obviously anyone is entitled to a say.
I'm not a bot. You just don't like or understand what I'm posting. Or you ignore me basically.

Who are you, Pixel--Dude, you're calling me out. Is it my reply to Dan cilley? Please be honest. I mostly reply to

MarcosZeitola
galii
MrMan
WanderingProtagonist
Natural_Born_Cynic
Winston

I don't usually reply to other users. Perhaps reply in other threads by quotation of my posts and I would clarify for you. If you don't think I'm human I'll take that as an insult.

I am aware of other users idk paloaltoguy came up in one of the recent posts. You think I'm one of the older users? What evidence do you have to justify that?

I think I remind you of a former ex girlfriend of yours. I think. I'm not sure how. Obviously I'm a dude irl so idk. I'm not gonna send a link of my photo.
English isn't his first language and can be difficult to understand him at times. He also doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.
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Re: Bots & A.I. On The Forum.

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No he isn't a bot, I don't think he is.
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josephty2 wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 8:07 am
I'm not a bot. You just don't like or understand what I'm posting. Or you ignore me basically.

Who are you, Pixel--Dude, you're calling me out. Is it my reply to Dan cilley? Please be honest. I mostly reply to

MarcosZeitola
galii
MrMan
WanderingProtagonist
Natural_Born_Cynic
Winston

I don't usually reply to other users. Perhaps reply in other threads by quotation of my posts and I would clarify for you. If you don't think I'm human I'll take that as an insult.

I am aware of other users idk paloaltoguy came up in one of the recent posts. You think I'm one of the older users? What evidence do you have to justify that?

I think I remind you of a former ex girlfriend of yours. I think. I'm not sure how. Obviously I'm a dude irl so idk. I'm not gonna send a link of my photo. I mean I've heard of president names as usernames before. But seriously?

Edit: it took me 20 minutes to understand. When a professor assigned readings I realize some students skim 5% of the required texts. I often provide links. I realize no one clicks on them. You can't assume you know. I get it, professors are terrible at making syllabus and grading properly. Professors who grade a certain way to reward reading entire texts typically either get denied tenure or get fired for something silly, though it's correlates, so they may be denied tenure for lack of research funds or fired for something like sexual misconduct.
I think the reason behind of @Pixel--Dude's frustration is not much about members like you, @josephty2, being AI driven or not. It's about writing stuff that is contextual, on point, makes sense and contributes to the conversation.

I have curiously followed your posts to the aforementioned members and, whether your contents is AI-generated or not, it just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't have any correlation with the original reply, save for some keywords that can be picked up by the AI for context inference.

Case in point, you mentioned paloaltoguy gratuitously and that alone is highly suspicious.

Then these two paragraphs are completely out of context and don't make any sense.
I think I remind you of a former ex girlfriend of yours. I think. I'm not sure how. Obviously I'm a dude irl so idk. I'm not gonna send a link of my photo. I mean I've heard of president names as usernames before. But seriously?

Edit: it took me 20 minutes to understand. When a professor assigned readings I realize some students skim 5% of the required texts. I often provide links. I realize no one clicks on them. You can't assume you know. I get it, professors are terrible at making syllabus and grading properly. Professors who grade a certain way to reward reading entire texts typically either get denied tenure or get fired for something silly, though it's correlates, so they may be denied tenure for lack of research funds or fired for something like sexual misconduct.
Whether or not you're a bot, you provide the same quality of responses of one. Therefore, you're next to useless IMHO.
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Re: Bots & A.I. On The Forum.

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publicduende wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 8:58 am
josephty2 wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 8:07 am
I'm not a bot. You just don't like or understand what I'm posting. Or you ignore me basically.

Who are you, Pixel--Dude, you're calling me out. Is it my reply to Dan cilley? Please be honest. I mostly reply to

MarcosZeitola
galii
MrMan
WanderingProtagonist
Natural_Born_Cynic
Winston

I don't usually reply to other users. Perhaps reply in other threads by quotation of my posts and I would clarify for you. If you don't think I'm human I'll take that as an insult.

I am aware of other users idk paloaltoguy came up in one of the recent posts. You think I'm one of the older users? What evidence do you have to justify that?

I think I remind you of a former ex girlfriend of yours. I think. I'm not sure how. Obviously I'm a dude irl so idk. I'm not gonna send a link of my photo. I mean I've heard of president names as usernames before. But seriously?

Edit: it took me 20 minutes to understand. When a professor assigned readings I realize some students skim 5% of the required texts. I often provide links. I realize no one clicks on them. You can't assume you know. I get it, professors are terrible at making syllabus and grading properly. Professors who grade a certain way to reward reading entire texts typically either get denied tenure or get fired for something silly, though it's correlates, so they may be denied tenure for lack of research funds or fired for something like sexual misconduct.
I think the reason behind of @Pixel--Dude's frustration is not much about members like you, @josephty2, being AI driven or not. It's about writing stuff that is contextual, on point, makes sense and contributes to the conversation.

I have curiously followed your posts to the aforementioned members and, whether your contents is AI-generated or not, it just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't have any correlation with the original reply, save for some keywords that can be picked up by the AI for context inference.

Case in point, you mentioned paloaltoguy gratuitously and that alone is highly suspicious..
I have eyes and can see that word paloaltoguy in the recent 100 forum list. I use a device and see that on the screen. Why would you be suspicious? I don't know him. You have bad memories of him and clearly seem offended.

I used the bing version of chatgpt, the generated responses are quite professional however they never answer a question and seem like no different from paying someone to write my school essay which a experienced teacher would fail my essay. Perhaps you are used to a certain way of answering. It's like meeting someone like the genie girl from psychology textbook. Most people including sadly 99% of Americans are like, yes it is 99%, someone like that shouldn't be in public that'll cause too many kids to drop out of school. She can speak, it's just she is happier abroad.
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Then again, some people go all the way (cognitive dissonance/fallacy of incomplete evidence).

Eat dates.

The problem is iphones.

You definitely picked the wrong country.
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:16 am
@josephty2 where are you from?
I'm sorry I didn't clarify. I did have a account named josephty1. If you find my josephty1 post in the intro subforum I introduced myself there. I forgot the password and apparently the email with it I deleted, I did forget to change the email before deleting Gmail. Gmail doesn't let you remake a new account with the same name. It's frustrating because I will never remember the password. It's basically the same name josephty so it's not so important. Zboy1 I think replied.
Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:17 am
Email address seems legitimate enough, though the listed interests on this account seem random and don't make sense.
The interests. Yeah democrats don't understand why the roe v wade decision was overturned. Too reliant on a certain person wearing a supreme shirt.
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Then again, some people go all the way (cognitive dissonance/fallacy of incomplete evidence).

Eat dates.

The problem is iphones.

You definitely picked the wrong country.
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josephty2 wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:14 am
I used the bing version of chatgpt, the generated responses are quite professional however they never answer a question and seem like no different from paying someone to write my school essay which a experienced teacher would fail my essay. Perhaps you are used to a certain way of answering. It's like meeting someone like the genie girl from psychology textbook. Most people including sadly 99% of Americans are like, yes it is 99%, someone like that shouldn't be in public that'll cause too many kids to drop out of school. She can speak, it's just she is happier abroad.
Why would you use ChatGPT to engage in a forum? You don't have anything to say of your own? If that is the case, you'd better stop posting.
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publicduende wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:25 am
josephty2 wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:14 am
I used the bing version of chatgpt, the generated responses are quite professional however they never answer a question and seem like no different from paying someone to write my school essay which a experienced teacher would fail my essay. Perhaps you are used to a certain way of answering. It's like meeting someone like the genie girl from psychology textbook. Most people including sadly 99% of Americans are like, yes it is 99%, someone like that shouldn't be in public that'll cause too many kids to drop out of school. She can speak, it's just she is happier abroad.
Why would you use ChatGPT to engage in a forum? You don't have anything to say of your own? If that is the case, you'd better stop posting.
No I said I tested the bing chatgpt to see what the hype is about. Could you not see that was a rant? I never used that on this forum. I realize this is a facepalm moment.
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Then again, some people go all the way (cognitive dissonance/fallacy of incomplete evidence).

Eat dates.

The problem is iphones.

You definitely picked the wrong country.
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There's one way to prove that someone is not a bot. Have them appear to you on Skype or webcam? But these days, with AI and ChatGPT, it's hard to say who is real and who isn't. Some people are suspicious too. Also the government could have AI that is far beyond anything we know and can talk like a human rather than like a computer. That's always possible. But it's also possible to be overly paranoid too. It's hard to stay sane.

To @MarcosZeitola: You never addressed my point before. You said that government shills like the COINTEL program, would not waste their time or resources on a small fringe forum like this. True. However, if an AI is running the whole thing, then it can be everywhere all at once, like a god can. Consider your body. One red blood cell may not be significant in your body, but the body will take care of it and manage it nonetheless, because there is some type of AI program in your body that is running all 40 trillion cells in it. Do you see what I mean? Likewise, a blade of grass doesn't matter, but it's part of the ecosystem and the matrix takes care of it just like it does with any other blade of grass. Do you see what I mean? An AI program can do anything like a god, it's not limited like a single mind is.
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josephty2 wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:22 am
Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:16 am
@josephty2 where are you from?
I'm sorry I didn't clarify. I did have a account named josephty1. If you find my josephty1 post in the intro subforum I introduced myself there. I forgot the password and apparently the email with it I deleted, I did forget to change the email before deleting Gmail. Gmail doesn't let you remake a new account with the same name. It's frustrating because I will never remember the password. It's basically the same name josephty so it's not so important.
I noticed you deleted a huge part of your josephnty1 comments and I wonder why.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=28606
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Roccia wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:30 am
josephty2 wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:22 am
Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 9:16 am
@josephty2 where are you from?
I'm sorry I didn't clarify. I did have a account named josephty1. If you find my josephty1 post in the intro subforum I introduced myself there. I forgot the password and apparently the email with it I deleted, I did forget to change the email before deleting Gmail. Gmail doesn't let you remake a new account with the same name. It's frustrating because I will never remember the password. It's basically the same name josephty so it's not so important.
I noticed you deleted a huge part of your josephnty1 comments and I wonder why.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=28606
I noticed my earlier posts before 2018 are a lot more like Winston when he dated a white woman, went to a bunch of new age events, paranormal stuff etc. Like someone who uses iPhone. Infj is probably correct for my early 2015-2018 posts.

My recent posts of me ranting about Seattle and trying to find explanations for it, so I'm perceiving. I don't like to blame myself. The explanations I think are more accurate but difficult to explain. I realize a lot of posts could use a sentence of introduction. Many revised editions of bestseller books have a preface or forward for a reason. I also advise a caution to people who are vegan too long, like you would have missing gaps not just in nutrition but in other things.
Then again, some people go all the way (cognitive dissonance/fallacy of incomplete evidence).

Eat dates.

The problem is iphones.

You definitely picked the wrong country.
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@Pixel--Dude @Winston

My 2 cents, this is usual PAG troll making fun of us. Now it's one semi-contextual paragraph, followed by a completely nonsensical one.
I noticed my earlier posts before 2018 are a lot more like Winston when he dated a white woman, went to a bunch of new age events, paranormal stuff etc. Like someone who uses iPhone. Infj is probably correct for my early 2015-2018 posts.
My recent posts is me ranting about Seattle and trying to find explanations for it, so I'm perceiving. I don't like to blame myself. The explanations I think are more accurate but difficult to explain. I also advise a caution to people who are vegan too long, like you would have missing gaps not just in nutrition but in other things.
Why oh why, some people look like they have absolutely nothing better to do, in life...
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 12:44 pm
@publicduende
@Winston
@WanderingProtagonist
@Roccia

Aren't those Captcha images effective at catching out bots? A simple solution to this issue I think is to see if our friend can solve a Captcha image?

@josephty2 can you please solve the image below. That should prove you're not a bot. Also can you tell me where you are from without directing me to one of your old accounts? You deleted the content on those accounts as well.

Image

If you can't solve this then I'll highly suspect you're a bot.
@Pixel--Dude, @josephty2 is probably PAG pasting AI-generated text. If he (or any human wanting to prank the forum) is behind this, they will be easily able to solve the captcha.

Either way, that POS troll always gets far more attention than he deserves.
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 10:16 pm
But we have no proof this is PAG. The only thing we can suspect is that the user is using A.I generated text. We will see if this is human or not. If @josephty2 doesn't answer the CAPTCHA then I'll permanently ban him as a bot. If he does then at least we know he is human. If he's human then I'll at least leave him alone and just recommend people ignore him.
You are right, we have no proof it's PAG. We do know he is a human who pastes AI-generated text. Why he would want to do that expecting other Members to positively engage with him, it's anybody's guess...
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 12:44 pm
@publicduende
@Winston
@WanderingProtagonist
@Roccia

Aren't those Captcha images effective at catching out bots? A simple solution to this issue I think is to see if our friend can solve a Captcha image?

@josephty2 can you please solve the image below. That should prove you're not a bot. Also can you tell me where you are from without directing me to one of your old accounts? You deleted the content on those accounts as well.

Image

If you can't solve this then I'll highly suspect you're a bot.
What is this a joke? My5n5

Winston never learned that much code nor is he hiring enough people to make that kind of website.

Where I'm from? I was born in Vietnam and immigrated to Seattle at age 3.
publicduende wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 10:19 pm
Pixel--Dude wrote:
January 5th, 2024, 10:16 pm
But we have no proof this is PAG. The only thing we can suspect is that the user is using A.I generated text. We will see if this is human or not. If @josephty2 doesn't answer the CAPTCHA then I'll permanently ban him as a bot. If he does then at least we know he is human. If he's human then I'll at least leave him alone and just recommend people ignore him.
You are right, we have no proof it's PAG. We do know he is a human who pastes AI-generated text. Why he would want to do that expecting other Members to positively engage with him, it's anybody's guess...
This is false. I said I downloaded the app tested it and used my eyes saw the generated text on the screen and told you guys it was not too different from .... Teachers grading essays from paying other people to write the essay for them, with f grade. Of course that's cheating. Why would I copy and paste the ai stuff.

Um, I drink tea that's why you aren't understanding what I'm writing. Coffee is better for writing in general though a British person might understand if a person writes after drinking tea.
Then again, some people go all the way (cognitive dissonance/fallacy of incomplete evidence).

Eat dates.

The problem is iphones.

You definitely picked the wrong country.
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