Grooming isn't a "conspiracy theory"

[vlkmo]

I'm tired of it being pushed that opposing and discussing grooming of children is explicitly called a slur or conspiracy theory. (Sometimes even I wonder if I'm crazy even though I know I'm not, because according to every "official" source, I am). I don't think it's fair to reduce it to those terms. It doesn't say that everybody is actively supporting pedophilia or other kinds of exploitation either.

When is such BS going to stop?

[MrMan]

There are some evil 'charities' out there that promote wickedness and perversion among children. George Soros, I have read, has funded efforts to promote transsexualism and the Southern Poverty Law Center has promoted sexually explicit garbage being taught to the children.

I remember hearing a state representative talking about this around 2012 or so after the SCOTUS unleased another layer of perversion on us by asserting that gay marriage was in the 14th amendment all along. (I hope the current court overturns this wickedness.)

There was this nasty sexually explicit curriculum for middle school students that had characters named 'Chris' or something that could be gender neutral that was rather explicit about sex acts, stuff adults would blush to read in public.

I remember thinking why would they need pedophiles to groom the kids when the educational system as doing it for them.

Actual grooming of children goes on. There was also an indie film about some guys who busted up a pedophile ring (didn't watch it. heard about it.) Then some people on the left on TV was treating it like a conspiracy theory.

There are right wing conspiracy theories, for example spread on the app Telegraph, about a lot of politicians and celebrities sending kids around for pedophilia activity through tunnels and stuff. There is probably some truth to it, but it is likely exaggerated and possibly naming people who aren't guilty of it. I am suspicious of the idea that they are getting kids to get a vampire like drug from their adrenalyn that makes celebrities look young, in Satanic rituals. But I wouldn't rule out some Hollywood actors or politicians doing child sacrifice as a possibility.

[kangarunner]

There are some evil 'charities' out there that promote wickedness and perversion among children. George Soros, I have read, has funded efforts to promote transsexualism and the Southern Poverty Law Center has promoted sexually explicit garbage being taught to the children.

I remember hearing a state representative talking about this around 2012 or so after the SCOTUS unleased another layer of perversion on us by asserting that gay marriage was in the 14th amendment all along. (I hope the current court overturns this wickedness.)

There was this nasty sexually explicit curriculum for middle school students that had characters named 'Chris' or something that could be gender neutral that was rather explicit about sex acts, stuff adults would blush to read in public.

I remember thinking why would they need pedophiles to groom the kids when the educational system as doing it for them.

Actual grooming of children goes on. There was also an indie film about some guys who busted up a pedophile ring (didn't watch it. heard about it.) Then some people on the left on TV was treating it like a conspiracy theory.

There are right wing conspiracy theories, for example spread on the app Telegraph, about a lot of politicians and celebrities sending kids around for pedophilia activity through tunnels and stuff. There is probably some truth to it, but it is likely exaggerated and possibly naming people who aren't guilty of it. I am suspicious of the idea that they are getting kids to get a vampire like drug from their adrenalyn that makes celebrities look young, in Satanic rituals. But I wouldn't rule out some Hollywood actors or politicians doing child sacrifice as a possibility.

[Shemp]

Adult men's attraction to underage but pubescent girls is normal, but carrying through with that attraction into sex is illegal (and illegal for good reasons IMO) and discussing that attraction is frowned up (and will get you kicked off this forum). Because this attraction is so powerful, it is widely used by secret services to gather Kompromat on political figures. Epstein notoriously arranged for men politicians and other powerful men to have sex with underage teens, probably on behalf of CIA and Mossad, and then was killed in prison before he could testify. It is my belief that Mossad has underage sex kompromat (possibly from Epstein) on both Biden and Trump, which is why they both support genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. That pager that Netanyahu handed Trump was probably not a death threat but rather a threat to release kompromat unless Trump does as ordered about the ethnic cleansing.

Grooming teenage girls is an important part of the business of getting kompromat, because first you need the underage teenage girls before you can arrange sex between them and the men political figures. Best girls for this are girls who look 19 but are actually 13, because then you can use fake ID cards to trick the man into thinking the girl is legal, but juries and public opinion will be outraged when told the true age was 13 at the time the video proof of sex was filmed. Kompromat and grooming may be replaced by AI deep fakes in the future, assuming we still have democracy and public opinion matters in the future.

[kangarunner]

Adult men's attraction to underage but pubescent girls is normal, but carrying through with that attraction into sex is illegal (and illegal for good reasons IMO) and discussing that attraction is frowned up (and will get you kicked off this forum).

No, it is not normal. I see the females here and if they are minors I may think they are "cute", but that's as far as it goes. Nothing more.

[kangarunner]

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